Copa CONMEBOL Sudamericana 2024

[Pumared]

I just found this thread, well this racing its not nearby to be good, they have some names but they are not so good. They are super irregular also. I dont know how Racing manage to go into the final, i think they ahve a big luck in the first game against Corinthians with two majestic goals.

About Cruziero - Racing final..... i dont know what to think i see the whole Cruzeiro Boca game and it was pathetic by Cruzeiro Boca with one less man for the whole match was nearby to win it. But Racing is also not a reliable team.

The quality of the games is a little lower, because the teams that qualify for this championship are the teams that usually fail to qualify for the Copa Libertadores. I consider the Copa Sudamericana to be a sort of second division of the continental tournament, with the Copa Libertadores being equivalent to the first division.

I hadn't stopped to think about it that way. It really is like the second division, but I always catch myself thinking that the Libertadores champion always loses to the winner of the "Sula". I know it's just my impression, but I always question myself about it.

It's something I also think about with the international club championship, the World Cup. I always think that any Brazilian team can be better or at least compete with the champion. It's really just a matter of timing.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

I just found this thread, well this racing its not nearby to be good, they have some names but they are not so good. They are super irregular also. I dont know how Racing manage to go into the final, i think they ahve a big luck in the first game against Corinthians with two majestic goals.

About Cruziero - Racing final..... i dont know what to think i see the whole Cruzeiro Boca game and it was pathetic by Cruzeiro Boca with one less man for the whole match was nearby to win it. But Racing is also not a reliable team.

The quality of the games is a little lower, because the teams that qualify for this championship are the teams that usually fail to qualify for the Copa Libertadores. I consider the Copa Sudamericana to be a sort of second division of the continental tournament, with the Copa Libertadores being equivalent to the first division.

I hadn't stopped to think about it that way. It really is like the second division, but I always catch myself thinking that the Libertadores champion always loses to the winner of the "Sula". I know it's just my impression, but I always question myself about it.

It's something I also think about with the international club championship, the World Cup. I always think that any Brazilian team can be better or at least compete with the champion. It's really just a matter of timing.

Well since we are all from here we all know how good was the Sudamericana in his first edition it was like a second Libertadores, because the same teams plays at super high level, when Sudamericana starts to be a second tier and the top teams only play in Libertadores Sudamericana starts to lose his quality.

[criptoevangelista]

I just found this thread, well this racing its not nearby to be good, they have some names but they are not so good. They are super irregular also. I dont know how Racing manage to go into the final, i think they ahve a big luck in the first game against Corinthians with two majestic goals.

About Cruziero - Racing final..... i dont know what to think i see the whole Cruzeiro Boca game and it was pathetic by Cruzeiro Boca with one less man for the whole match was nearby to win it. But Racing is also not a reliable team.

The quality of the games is a little lower, because the teams that qualify for this championship are the teams that usually fail to qualify for the Copa Libertadores. I consider the Copa Sudamericana to be a sort of second division of the continental tournament, with the Copa Libertadores being equivalent to the first division.

I hadn't stopped to think about it that way. It really is like the second division, but I always catch myself thinking that the Libertadores champion always loses to the winner of the "Sula". I know it's just my impression, but I always question myself about it.

It's something I also think about with the international club championship, the World Cup. I always think that any Brazilian team can be better or at least compete with the champion. It's really just a matter of timing.

Well since we are all from here we all know how good was the Sudamericana in his first edition it was like a second Libertadores, because the same teams plays at super high level, when Sudamericana starts to be a second tier and the top teams only play in Libertadores Sudamericana starts to lose his quality.

In the past, few teams managed to qualify for the Libertadores, only the top 4 in the Brazilian championship, today came 6 spots + the spot from the Brazilian Cup, that is, only teams with average performance qualify for the South American, perhaps it is a strategy to give a chance to be champion to the team that could not have a good season in the Brazilian championship, or also to move more prize money between these average teams, that is, to try to balance the finances of the championships... well, this is just my speculation.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Nobody is gonna congratulate Racing club of Avellaneda for being the winner of this tournament? 

Poor racing hahaha, is one of the most "cursed" team in Argentina, so good for them to finally win something. Racing was the first winner of the Libertadores and also winner of the International cup back in the 60´.

[Pumared]

Nobody is gonna congratulate Racing club of Avellaneda for being the winner of this tournament? 

Poor racing hahaha, is one of the most "cursed" team in Argentina, so good for them to finally win something. Racing was the first winner of the Libertadores and also winner of the International cup back in the 60´.

The short answer is no.  But Cruzeiro also has its merits for getting this far. But congratulations to Racing, if I'm not mistaken they've gone more than thirty years without winning any international titles. And in 1999 they overcame bankruptcy and reorganized themselves as 'SAF'. They really deserve everything that's been happening! Congratulations to Racing!

[Forsyth Jones]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

[Pumared]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

Breaking a drought of several years without international titles. This should be glorified, besides, as you mentioned, beating three Brazilians. It is a deserved victory, without a shadow of a doubt. And for Cruzeiro, the prize for the second, which is also not so bad.

[criptoevangelista]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

It's great to see teams from other countries winning too, this is good for South American football as a whole to become stronger and stronger, after all, in recent years only Brazilian teams have been winning these "stronger" continental tournaments:

Libertadores, the last non-Brazilian champion was River Plate in 2018, only in the Sulamericana cup has there been a rotation of teams... I hope this changes soon and that the other South American teams can also become protagonists of more continental tournaments.

[Slow death]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

It's great to see teams from other countries winning too, this is good for South American football as a whole to become stronger and stronger, after all, in recent years only Brazilian teams have been winning these "stronger" continental tournaments:

Libertadores, the last non-Brazilian champion was River Plate in 2018, only in the Sulamericana cup has there been a rotation of teams... I hope this changes soon and that the other South American teams can also become protagonists of more continental tournaments.

In recent years, football has become a sport in which a team's financial situation has greatly helped in its achievements in domestic or foreign competitions, and it seems to me that in the Brazilian league, the smaller teams are in better financial conditions when compared to the smaller teams in the leagues of other South American countries, as is the quality of the squad, which is why I'm not surprised to see Brazilian teams having a better chance of winning South American competitions and even in cases where they don't win, at least Brazilian teams manage to go further.

[Pumared]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

It's great to see teams from other countries winning too, this is good for South American football as a whole to become stronger and stronger, after all, in recent years only Brazilian teams have been winning these "stronger" continental tournaments:

Libertadores, the last non-Brazilian champion was River Plate in 2018, only in the Sulamericana cup has there been a rotation of teams... I hope this changes soon and that the other South American teams can also become protagonists of more continental tournaments.

I even thought that since a Brazilian lost to a team that hadn't beaten them in years, the Brazilians could be worse off. But it turns out that the teams that go to the "Sula" end up not being that strong. So, once again, all the credit to Racing!

[criptoevangelista]

Congratulations to Racing, Argentine victory! It was painful to see Cruzeiro concede another goal in the last 20 seconds of the game while they were giving their last gasp in search of a miraculous draw. The team was very competent, beating all 3 Brazilian clubs.

It's great to see teams from other countries winning too, this is good for South American football as a whole to become stronger and stronger, after all, in recent years only Brazilian teams have been winning these "stronger" continental tournaments:

Libertadores, the last non-Brazilian champion was River Plate in 2018, only in the Sulamericana cup has there been a rotation of teams... I hope this changes soon and that the other South American teams can also become protagonists of more continental tournaments.

In recent years, football has become a sport in which a team's financial situation has greatly helped in its achievements in domestic or foreign competitions, and it seems to me that in the Brazilian league, the smaller teams are in better financial conditions when compared to the smaller teams in the leagues of other South American countries, as is the quality of the squad, which is why I'm not surprised to see Brazilian teams having a better chance of winning South American competitions and even in cases where they don't win, at least Brazilian teams manage to go further.

Brazilian football is in a phase of professionalization of football management, which was initiated by Flamengo and Palmeiras, and soon after the "SAF" entered to invest heavily in football and clubs, so it is somewhat natural that Brazil stands out in these championships, the rest of the clubs in South America are falling behind in management (I believe)... This for me is one of the reasons for all this difference.

[Forsyth Jones]

In recent years, football has become a sport in which a team's financial situation has greatly helped in its achievements in domestic or foreign competitions, and it seems to me that in the Brazilian league, the smaller teams are in better financial conditions when compared to the smaller teams in the leagues of other South American countries, as is the quality of the squad, which is why I'm not surprised to see Brazilian teams having a better chance of winning South American competitions and even in cases where they don't win, at least Brazilian teams manage to go further.

Brazilian football is in a phase of professionalization of football management, which was initiated by Flamengo and Palmeiras, and soon after the "SAF" entered to invest heavily in football and clubs, so it is somewhat natural that Brazil stands out in these championships, the rest of the clubs in South America are falling behind in management (I believe)... This for me is one of the reasons for all this difference.
[/quote]South American football is gradually gaining more space, who knows, maybe we will have a brazilian club competing in the Club World Cup final again.

It's good to see this alternation of winners in championships like the South American, on the other hand, clubs that don't become more professional and start to behave like a company, such as seeking greater financial balance, seeking more foreign investors and making signings without putting the clubs in debt will end up falling behind.

[Pumared]

In recent years, football has become a sport in which a team's financial situation has greatly helped in its achievements in domestic or foreign competitions, and it seems to me that in the Brazilian league, the smaller teams are in better financial conditions when compared to the smaller teams in the leagues of other South American countries, as is the quality of the squad, which is why I'm not surprised to see Brazilian teams having a better chance of winning South American competitions and even in cases where they don't win, at least Brazilian teams manage to go further.

Brazilian football is in a phase of professionalization of football management, which was initiated by Flamengo and Palmeiras, and soon after the "SAF" entered to invest heavily in football and clubs, so it is somewhat natural that Brazil stands out in these championships, the rest of the clubs in South America are falling behind in management (I believe)... This for me is one of the reasons for all this difference.

Exactly, this issue of alternation is so important to create competitiveness that we don't have a team that always wins. Brazil is really at a high level in South America. But, there is still a long way to go before it can get close to European football.