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January 09, 2025, 11:37:06 AM
Last edit: January 09, 2025, 11:47:44 AM by BlackyJacky
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What qualifies you to do dispute mediation?

Again, as I already answered here, nothing.

I misunderstood your answer:

But that shouldn't be any concern since i didn't do dispute resolution between players and online casinos where my words bind them all.

I understood you don't do dispute resolution, but now reading it again you said you don't do it in a way where your words bind them all.

So you believe as long as your words don't bind them all, it does not matter that you are not qualified.

I have to disagree, because handling a dispute mediation properly matters and this totally independent of whether or not your words bind them all.

A lot of victims put their hope into you and if their cases are not properly handled, it frustrates them even more!

From my point of view, you have lost any credibility with not adding Stake's provably rigged in-house games to your list!

You also confirmed that you are not qualified to handle Stake's provably rigged in-house games properly:

Without much experience on this field [so my words can perhaps be treated as empty air], IMO the idea that originals being rigged can be somewhat thwarted.
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January 09, 2025, 06:48:14 PM
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What qualifies you to do dispute mediation?

Again, as I already answered here, nothing.

I misunderstood your answer:

But that shouldn't be any concern since i didn't do dispute resolution between players and online casinos where my words bind them all.

I understood you don't do dispute resolution, but now reading it again you said you don't do it in a way where your words bind them all.

So you believe as long as your words don't bind them all, it does not matter that you are not qualified.

I have to disagree, because handling a dispute mediation properly matters and this totally independent of whether or not your words bind them all.

A lot of victims put their hope into you and if their cases are not properly handled, it frustrates them even more!

From my point of view, you have lost any credibility with not adding Stake's provably rigged in-house games to your list!

You also confirmed that you are not qualified to handle Stake's provably rigged in-house games properly:

Without much experience on this field [so my words can perhaps be treated as empty air], IMO the idea that originals being rigged can be somewhat thwarted.

You still misunderstood my answer. Kindly read again so you can grasp what I conveyed.

But, if I may suggest a better thing for you to spend your time, rather than trying to throw muds, perhaps it's better to write that thread about your situation, so it can be finally added to the list like you wanted it to be? And the overseers can pitch in right after that. I think that can be considered as using your time more wisely than what you're doing right now, because... I don't think any of that mud will stick.

If any, IMO, it'll just lower your credibility on overseers' eyes when they read through your posts when they read your case as they saw you spending your time balling some muds and grasping straws to build the strawman.

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January 15, 2025, 11:05:15 AM
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@HolyDarkness

The contractual relationship between victims and the illegal and criminal online casino operation Stake says that account verification is not compulsory!

Based on what law(s) are the 2 RuneScape players and the chat moderator authorized to demand personal documents from its victims when the victims ask to give the data they are entitled to get?
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March 01, 2025, 03:56:32 PM
Last edit: March 07, 2025, 10:48:27 AM by BlackyJacky
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@HolyDarkness

If a self-proclaimed online casino dispute mediation expert psychological abuser isn't able to answer the simple question how the casino collects the house edge, then they are not qualified to offer online casino dispute mediation!

@holydarkness

How does the casino collect the house edge?

A) Reduce 0,5% from every bet

B) Reduce 0,5% from the total amount wagered

C) Via the number of bets a player loses
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March 02, 2025, 11:44:38 PM
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@HolyDarkness

If a self-proclaimed online casino dispute mediation expert
Where did he "self-proclaim" that he is an online casino dispute mediation expert?

Cut the dude some slack. He is doing this out of goodwill or as a volunteer. He tries to help where he can and where he can't, he clearly says he can't. I see no reason why he should be answerable to you because he is no representative of the casino. If you want some answer, feel free to reach out stake.com's support or their in casino community/forum. A smart person would certainly do that.

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March 05, 2025, 10:37:58 AM
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@HolyDarkness

If a self-proclaimed online casino dispute mediation expert

Where did he "self-proclaim" that he is an online casino dispute mediation expert?

Here:

@HolyDarkness is attacking and mocking me while having fun!

Hmm... must be fun to live in the world inside your head where you're always right and when someone pointed out that you're not, either ignore the fact [because you're always right, so you shouldn't address the matter where they show that you're not] like when you try to point out my "fun fact" that stake routinely scan this board, which I then show the full statement made by the rep herself, which prove that the "fun fact" is actually a, well, "fact", or, when an ADR refuse to mediate due to the lack of evidence, they're stupid.

Comparing CG to police is misleading... is it, though? Try to go to the police and accuse someone without concrete evidence, see if they'll take your case seriously. By "your concrete evidence", I believe we all [but you] understand that what you served them --if we compare to what you tried to serve to CG on your thread there, as well as here in those wall of text and numbers-- are not valid as a compelling prima facie because well, your understanding of how the system works is wrong, but then again, in the world you're living inside your head, you're the one who always right. Even three AI and other people are wrong.

"Fun fact": this phrase kept repeating in my head while I write this post, "off with his head!", I guess I know why, LOL.

If he would want to help online casino victims he wouldn't mock them and having fun while doing so!

What logic is this?

The number of nonsense hallucinators is bigger than the number of people who are able to understand how the casino collects the house edge (including you) and then he false and misleading claims that the nonsense hallucinators are right and I am wrong, because the number of nonsense hallucinators is the majority!

As I said, someone who is not able to understand how the house edge technically moves from the player balance to the casino balance is not qualified to offer online casino dispute mediation!

And certainly not someone who makes fun of online casino victims!


As @HolyDarkness loves to speak about "facts", how about speaking about the fact that the experienced house or player edge is caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost?

You yourself confirmed it:

When the actual/experienced house edge or player edge considers the total wager and profit/loss, that means the actual/experienced house edge is determined by the total number of bets a player has won or lost, right?

You’re correct on this one, actual house edge is based on the total loss/profit on all players wager on the casino within a specific period. Casino doesn’t often display the live RTP to the public and just display the theoretical RTP.

And even if I was the only one here who informs about the fact that the experienced house or player edge is caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost, then it is still a fact, and everything claiming otherwise is hallucinated nonsense!

Go to a brick and mortar casino and make 100 bets a 10$:

A) The croupier doesn't reduce a house edge from every bet

B) After you have wagered 1,000$, the croupier also doesn't say that you have to give him now the house edge for the 1,000$ you have wagered  Cheesy

When you end the session, the total number of bets won is your experienced win or the total number of bets lost is your experienced loss, simple.

Now compare this fact with @HolyDarkness's hallucinated "facts"!

Hallucination 1)

Hmm... must be fun to live in the world inside your head where you're always right and when someone pointed out that you're not, either ignore the fact

Hallucinates that someone pointed out that the experienced house or player edge is not caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost!

Hallucinates the hallucinated nonsense that the experienced house or player edge is not caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost as a "fact"!


Hallucination 2)

[because you're always right, so you shouldn't address the matter where they show that you're not]

Hallucinates that I am always right, while I am not, but in regard to how the casino collects the house edge I am indeed right!

Hallucinates that the nonsense hallucinators showed to me that the experienced house or player edge is not caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost!


Hallucination 3)

like when you try to point out my "fun fact" that stake routinely scan this board, which I then show the full statement made by the rep herself, which prove that the "fun fact" is actually a, well, "fact",

Hallucinates that I tried to point out his "fun fact" (whatever that means?)!

Here is the post I made:

Some interesting info from @holydarkness

Info 1)

Stake scans this board!

Though they barely address matters here, this board is routinely scanned by one of their representative who then forward the matter to their complaint team. So, quite likely, their team has been made aware of this thread. Hopefully, they can overturn what "can't be overturn" by their live support.

Info 2)

If you did nothing wrong, Casino Guru will make a fair ruling Stake will follow!

Otherwise, as you've escalate to CG, and if you did nothing wrong, you can rest assured that CG will find and made a ruling that Stake's decision is unacordingly, and most likely than not, Stake will comply to CG's ruling.

Wait, Casino Guru closed my complaint about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack!  Roll Eyes


Hallucination 4)

or, when an ADR refuse to mediate due to the lack of evidence, they're stupid.

Hallucinates that I didn't submit substantial and sufficient proof to Casino Guru that Stake's in-house Black Jack is rigged!

Only because someone doesn't know or isn't able to understand that the experienced house or player edge is caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost, doesn't mean there is a lack of evidence!

In such a case there is more likely a lack of intellect!  Cheesy


Hallucination 5)

Try to go to the police and accuse someone without concrete evidence, see if they'll take your case seriously.

Repeats his hallucination that I didn't submit concrete evidence to Casino Guru, while in fact I did!


Hallucination 6)

By "your concrete evidence", I believe we all [but you] understand that what you served them --if we compare to what you tried to serve to CG on your thread there, as well as here in those wall of text and numbers-- are not valid as a compelling prima facie

Repeats his hallucination and additionally false and misleading pretends that "my concrete evidence" isn't valid as a compelling prima facie, while in fact it is!

Only because someone doesn't know or isn't able to understand that the experienced house or player edge is caused by the total number of bets a player has won or lost, doesn't mean "my concrete evidence" isn't compelling!


Hallucination 7)

because well, your understanding of how the system works is wrong,

Hallucinates that my understanding of how the system works is wrong, while in fact it is right!


Hallucination 8

but then again, in the world you're living inside your head, you're the one who always right.

Repeats his hallucination that I am always right, while I am not, but in regard to how the casino collects the house edge I am indeed right!


Cut the dude some slack. He is doing this out of goodwill or as a volunteer.

Ah, so he is psychologically abusing online casino victims and stating a lot of hallucinated nonsense "out of goodwill"?

Nice reverse logic here!


He tries to help where he can and where he can't, he clearly says he can't.

I didn't ask him to "help" me and he isn't qualified to offer online casino dispute mediation!


I see no reason why he should be answerable to you because he is no representative of the casino.

I also see no reason why he should be answerable to me, but he felt the necessity to do it, while not qualified!
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March 16, 2025, 01:20:16 AM
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You know exactly that Casino Guru marking a complaint as "unjustified" means nothing!

Oh? I don't know that. How do you figure and/or under what basis does the statement come from?

Casino Clown says my complaint was rejected as I had no proof of my claim!

https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-suspects-casino-s-in-house-blackjack

But if you read the complaint conversation on Casino Clown, you can (or should) see that they didn't close my case because I can't provide supporting evidence to back up my claim.  Roll Eyes

The complaint clown Nick clearly informed that Casino Clown isn't competent to handle my case:

Quote complaint clown Nick: "Sometimes you might get lucky and sometimes not; that's how casinos and casino games work. I would recommend reading our article about Payout ratio (RTP): https://casino.guru/learn-about-games-of-chance-rtp-variance."

So I lost 4,6% of my bets instead of the advertised 0,5%, because I was unlucky!  Cheesy

This nonsense excusation confirms that Casino Clown and complaint clown Nick are not able to understand that there is a law of large numbers which determines the maximal possible deviation from the expected outcome!

They are also not able to conclude that when you lost a higher percentage than technically maximal possible, it confirms that the game is rigged!

I understand correctly that you conclude that casino guru's ruling for "unjustified" means nothing because they rejected your case?

When you are not able to understand why Casino Clown isn't competent to offer online casino dispute mediation, even though I explained it very well, then you yourself are not qualified to offer online casino dispute mediation!

But here again, Casino Clown isn't competent to offer online casino dispute mediation because they say when you lost you were unlucky.

So these sickheads say when you lost an additional 3,7% on top of the maximal possible experienced house edge, which is technically not possible according to the law of large numbers, you were unlucky!  Cheesy


That's the basis of the statement?

Yes, according to the complaint clown Nick, the basis is always that you were unlucky when you lost more than you technically can!  Cheesy


Or is there other supporting reason?

Yes, the other part to prove that Casino Clown isn't competent to offer online casino dispute mediation is that they are absolutely unaware about the law of large numbers!

As Casino Clown is absolutely unaware about the law of large numbers, they are obviously not qualified to declare a complaint about a provably rigged in-house Black Jack as "unjustified"!


And oh, you missed to address this part:

How much do you get from Stake to mislead victims?

I'll say zero, but I don't think you'll take that for granted. Want to make a bet instead? Someone else who asked about the same, backed down from the challenge and kinda eat his words... rather shamelessly. You're up to it?

My impression is that you are a paid Stake undercover agent, but I have only circumstantial evidence and can't prove it.

The reason why you offer a bet is because you know it is difficult to prove a paid undercover agent activity when the clients are criminals!  Shocked  
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June 14, 2025, 06:53:05 PM
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We demmand accountability by Holydarkness, for marking thread status in favor of the stake like these.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536332.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5513383.0

Tell us, how much are you paid to maintain this kind of neutrality? don't come with challenges like you did last time when someone asked the same question.

If you are hands are clean, do mark these two threads as scammed by stake.com

Because err... Thamizhan's case is literally "in progress"? His last activity was 21st May, close with discussion that lead us to point a way where there is a possible alternate resolution by directly claiming to NPCI, thanks to your... help [though I am sure it's done unintentionally] while you try to sling muds? And yours.. well, your third case against Stake... is it not still in progress? Lemme jump to your thread.

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June 15, 2025, 09:29:36 PM
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Update as per 15 June 2025 [also added to the log], list will now have a quick summary of the total cases against them, status wise, like below:

Hopefully it'll help people with their DD get their information easier. It's a work in progress as I have to manually count one by one and my eyes are dry like Sahara, and it might took a while before every casino has this summary in them.

Please note that the summary are not and never intended to be a rating or whatever. They're simply fact, a tale-of-the-list, if one may. It a summarize the total cases [status wise] since this list compiled. Mere data, not rating, because I am sure as hell I am not qualified and entitled to deem a rating of a casino.

I'll take a break now as it took me about four hours to update the list to today [15.06.25] and add these new addition.

Oh, an a minor tweak, as I limit each casinos' entry to 15 [give or take two, if I'm too lazy to move them to archive], the list is no longer on chronological order, sorted from the oldest to newest. If a case still not in resolved status, and drowned by other cases and doesn't make to the 15 [originally chronological] limit, it'll move to the main page instead, replacing other case that's already marked as resolved.

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I ask please the moderator of this thread to add my scam accusation to Razed.

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I ask please the moderator of this thread to add my scam accusation to Razed.

Thank you.

You have your case raised on the day I update my list. I haven't jot it to my notebook, hence it's missed from being added during last week's update. I'll add it on the next update.

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