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March 23, 2025, 10:52:35 PM
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But the case you had with rollbit seem to have been resolved already according to this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5528612.msg65020492#msg65020492
or is there any other case you had that you didn't report. There's no way we can know about anything if you can't report or make a scam accusation/

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But the case you had with rollbit seem to have been resolved already according to this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5528612.msg65020492#msg65020492
or is there any other case you had that you didn't report. There's no way we can know about anything if you can't report or make a scam accusation/

It's not abour Rollbit or FortuneJack or whichever casino.

It's about their sportsbook provider BetBy that blatantly scams whoever they like whenever they like and despite that , these casinos are still considered legit.

My issue with Rollbit was partly my fault because I had opened an account with them 3years ago , never used it and didn't remember about it at all and then went on 3months ago and registered again.They did pay me and I thanked them for it but the conversation is about BetBy and not the casinos themselves.
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March 28, 2025, 10:58:45 PM
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It's not abour Rollbit or FortuneJack or whichever casino.

It's about their sportsbook provider BetBy that blatantly scams whoever they like whenever they like and despite that , these casinos are still considered legit.

My issue with Rollbit was partly my fault because I had opened an account with them 3years ago , never used it and didn't remember about it at all and then went on 3months ago and registered again.They did pay me and I thanked them for it but the conversation is about BetBy and not the casinos themselves.
Whatever say sportsbooks Terms and Conditions, will you accept it if you got 2 or 3 big wins during an evening at a land based casino and each time the dealer says the round is cancelled with no explanations, arguing rules of the casino allow to do it? You wouldn't call that a scam, report it to autorities and sue the owner of the casino?
So if what we read above is real, this provider doesn't make things right and should be reported to gambling autorities of the country it belongs to. If they get several complaints, or at least a serious one, they will do something.
According to their website they are incorporated in Malta, an european country. So the local gambling authority is more likely to do something than an offshore one I guess.

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EARLYBIRD LTD is a software development company registered under the laws of Malta with registration number C 94530 and registered address at 64, 'Excalibur', B. Bontadini Street, Birkirkara, Malta. EARLYBIRD LTD is licensed and regulated by Malta Gaming Authority with License Number: MGA/B2B/780/2020 issued 3 August 2020. Activities licensed under license MGA/B2B/780/2020 are listed in the dynamic seal of Malta Gaming Authority.
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In the Dominican Republic where there are hundreds of Sportsbooks if you have a ticket from a licensed book it could say Lebron James over 1 Pt. They have to pay it. If not you take the ticket to the Hacienda in SD and the book is notified to pay or they lose their license and will be shut down. In short if they put up a line and take the bet they MUST PAY.
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/massachusetts-sports-betting-forum/3733587-massachusetts-gaming-commission-rule-draftkings-can-void-178-bets.html?slf=68
If even in Dominican Republic it works like that, it would be surprising if it were different in a European country.

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@LEVSKI7 Of course, it all depends on what the regulation is. In fact, I don't find it so controversial to cancel a bet where there is an obvious error in the odds. Of course, it should be clear what the error is in the odds. It is not a error if you offer 1.83 and other places offer 5-10% less/more. We are talking about obvious mistakes, where they odds are reversed in relation to the teams and the like.

For example, in Italy, sports-betting regulation is at a fairly high level, and the rule is that all bets placed must be paid. There have been cases where bettors placed good amounts for obvious mistakes, for example odds were mistakenly switched in live. Instead of 1.20 on home they offered that on away win, and people played 5.00 on home win. There were situations when people placed bets in a match where a goal had already been scored, but the scout did not made an input of goal at the match or there was some technical error. So, we are talking about situations where people placed on the wrong odds 20.00-30.00. And all bets stand. Rules are rules.

But these guys from Betby void a good majority of winning bets, and it's not about the odds being wrong. It's just because you won. That's the problem, they will cancel whatever they want. So, they have their own interpretation of what value-bets and the like are, and accordingly they have given themselves the right to cancel everything that suits them - even though the match is already over and the result is known. So, there is no point in posting Scam Accusations against the casino anymore, when it is mostly about a canceled bet by Betby. And quite a large number of casinos use their feed. I really have no words to describe this crime these people are doing, I doubt that the bookies in Runda, Zimambwe and Burundi are doing something like that, with all due respect.
I agree with all of this. A bad line should be cancelled. A value line shouldn't be cancelled since it's subjective. Only scam sites cancel value lines.
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@LEVSKI7 Of course, it all depends on what the regulation is. In fact, I don't find it so controversial to cancel a bet where there is an obvious error in the odds. Of course, it should be clear what the error is in the odds. It is not a error if you offer 1.83 and other places offer 5-10% less/more. We are talking about obvious mistakes, where they odds are reversed in relation to the teams and the like.

For example, in Italy, sports-betting regulation is at a fairly high level, and the rule is that all bets placed must be paid. There have been cases where bettors placed good amounts for obvious mistakes, for example odds were mistakenly switched in live. Instead of 1.20 on home they offered that on away win, and people played 5.00 on home win. There were situations when people placed bets in a match where a goal had already been scored, but the scout did not made an input of goal at the match or there was some technical error. So, we are talking about situations where people placed on the wrong odds 20.00-30.00. And all bets stand. Rules are rules.

But these guys from Betby void a good majority of winning bets, and it's not about the odds being wrong. It's just because you won. That's the problem, they will cancel whatever they want. So, they have their own interpretation of what value-bets and the like are, and accordingly they have given themselves the right to cancel everything that suits them - even though the match is already over and the result is known. So, there is no point in posting Scam Accusations against the casino anymore, when it is mostly about a canceled bet by Betby. And quite a large number of casinos use their feed. I really have no words to describe this crime these people are doing, I doubt that the bookies in Runda, Zimambwe and Burundi are doing something like that, with all due respect.
I agree with all of this. A bad line should be cancelled. A value line shouldn't be cancelled since it's subjective. Only scam sites cancel value lines.

A wrong line or set of odds is if for example is when they have priced tennis player A 1.33 odds and tennis player B 3.25 odds when they correct is the other way around.In this case , of course there is an error in the odds setup since the odds are reversed.That is the definition of "wrong odds".
When the sportsbook has the over 2.5 for an inplay event priced at 1.97 and the line on Pinnacle is 1.65 , then this 1.97 is clearly a VALUE spot and it's completely scam to void such a won bet.
Also for basketball if the line in bet365 is -11.5 and BetBy has the line at -7.5 then this -7.5 handicap is just a value spot which can win or lose any time of the day.

The difference between these two is clear and 95% of the bettors can indicate what is value and what is wrong odds.

BetBy just ABUSES their definition of "wrong odds" in their terms and conditions , voiding whichever betslip they like (only won betslips of course) without providing anyone of a clear answer of "what they consider wrong odds".
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