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April 22, 2025, 12:42:10 AM
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I thought Trump said he will end the war within a short period of time.

But this is what we saw today: US will 'move on' from Ukraine peace talks if no progress soon

With what Russia has requested from Ukraine when Putin invaded Ukraine, Trump should know that this war is still not ending anytime soon.

Trump spoke bad of Biden but I think Biden is the better person. Still the war is going to the speculated direction.
This is a lesson that we shouldn't trust what politicians say mostly during campaigns. They will always say what people want to hear and not what they can really achieve. Trump knew it would not be easy to end the way but he used his 24 hours war ending promise to end the war to gain support.

He had been able to arm-twist Ukraine, forcing them to accept a resources management deal for war expenses repayment. Maybe the problem now lies in how to handle the occupied territories. Both are tired of fighting but it will still not be easy to broker a deal in such a complex situation. The war will definitely end but nobody knows when.

Trump simply thought that Zelensky would make a smart move, and take a deal that was good for the Ukrainian people. But Zelensky is getting too much money from the European banking system to care about the lives and welfare of his people. Can't negotiate with/against greed.

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April 22, 2025, 11:41:05 AM
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I thought Trump said he will end the war within a short period of time.

But this is what we saw today: US will 'move on' from Ukraine peace talks if no progress soon

With what Russia has requested from Ukraine when Putin invaded Ukraine, Trump should know that this war is still not ending anytime soon.

Trump spoke bad of Biden but I think Biden is the better person. Still the war is going to the speculated direction.
Well, the statement didn't say that the US were taking off their hands immediately from the peace talks and processes to ending the war but just a reminder to the both parties (Ukraine and Russia) of the necessity to speed the necessary processes to ending the war as the US under Trump doesn't have to spend most part of  the Trump's administration in intermediating in this very war when they have other important national matters to attend to.

I think Trump's statement is rather that of one who's eager to see to an end to the war in no time than one who wants to back off.

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April 22, 2025, 01:54:06 PM
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I think Trump's statement is rather that of one who's eager to see to an end to the war in no time than one who wants to back off.


I agree with you, this statement shows that he is just putting pressure on both Russia and Ukraine to end the war as soon as possible, and this is a familiar tactic of Trump that we often see in any negotiation.

The United States is the only country that can end this war, not only Trump but also Russia and Ukraine understand better than anyone, so with Trump putting more pressure, I believe a peace agreement will be signed soon in the near future.

If the United States withdraws from its mediating role and the war continues, it will be Trump's biggest failure in this term.

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April 22, 2025, 03:43:08 PM
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^^^ US has its own problems at hand, literally the entire pentagon is refusing to work with the drunk underqualified tattooed gang member at the helm.
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April 22, 2025, 04:04:00 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2025, 04:32:52 PM by o48o
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^^^ US has its own problems at hand, literally the entire pentagon is refusing to work with the drunk underqualified tattooed gang member at the helm.



This is a lesson that we shouldn't trust what politicians say mostly during campaigns. They will always say what people want to hear and not what they can really achieve. Trump knew it would not be easy to end the way but he used his 24 hours war ending promise to end the war to gain support.
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What you said is called false equivalence. As by claiming so you are creating cynicism that only benefits a liar.
Politicians aren't equally flawed or equally corrupted, and saying everyone is, is just trying to take Trump's responsibility away.

Trump doesn't lie because he is politician, he lies because he is notorious liar. I am amazed how he hasn't take any credit for making most public false claims in modern history.

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April 22, 2025, 10:32:15 PM
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When you watch the drone videos of the war explosions, some of them seem very fake. Perhaps the war has been over for a long time, and we are simply being fed a line so that we are induced to keep the funding flowing.

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I suggest you go there yourself. Why would you keep wondering if there is or there is not a war when you can simply check for yourself? And you even use the trip to apply for your Ruzzian citizenship - if you are not Ruzzian I mean.

But I guess a cheapstake like you is not willing to pay a trip to beautiful Odessa beach, so, at the risk of you insisting that anything out there is just fake and that you do not trust anything but the news on your local MAGAtards drinking hole... you can use OSINT maps and check the holes.

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April 23, 2025, 12:26:33 AM
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When you watch the drone videos of the war explosions, some of them seem very fake. Perhaps the war has been over for a long time, and we are simply being fed a line so that we are induced to keep the funding flowing.

Cool

I suggest you go there yourself. Why would you keep wondering if there is or there is not a war when you can simply check for yourself? And you even use the trip to apply for your Ruzzian citizenship - if you are not Ruzzian I mean.

But I guess a cheapstake like you is not willing to pay a trip to beautiful Odessa beach, so, at the risk of you insisting that anything out there is just fake and that you do not trust anything but the news on your local MAGAtards drinking hole... you can use OSINT maps and check the holes.


Gotcha! You thought I was serious. Lol. However, some of the jokers who make videos, film models, and AI can make fake videos easily.

I would like to visit Russia sometime. With the war going on, now is not a good time. But, the war will be over soon, with Russia putting down the Zelensky rebellion. Maybe then.

When the war is over, Zelensky will have been completely deposed, and someone else will be president of the Ukraine. Or there will be total world war, and I might have to wait for a long time before I can go. Since the USD is crashing, and since BRICS is being implemented - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5492053.msg65304642#msg65304642 - a visit to Russia might not be that far off.

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