To have kids or not to? Your opinion from economy perspective

[HelliumZ]

When it comes to child bearing, you need to be very sensitive that no one is coming to help you, which only you have the responsibility to provide  for the children.

Parents should be prepared to take absolute care of their children before intending to start making baby it is their responsibility to protect and provide for their kids so before two adults comes together to become husband and wife they should have something that generates income before child bearing.

If a child comes into the family after the husband and wife have been supporting each other, then of course the size of the family becomes larger and the amount of expenses becomes much higher than before. In this case, before having a child, the husband and wife must take some steps as a source of income so that there is enough opportunity to build a future for the child after its birth. If it is not possible to fulfill their responsibilities properly after having a child, then it is wise not to have a child.

[Nahl]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

A man is not qualified to marry when he cannot support himself. If he cannot earn his own income, then how will he feed his wife after getting married and how will he establish himself because he himself is an incompetent person. How can he have children if he is not able to earn enough to feed his wife? There is no question of having children here.

Basically there are no retirement moment for man because for their life the man should have ability to feed their family even when they were retire the man should be can earn money to buy family daily needs and having children is the dreaming of some people and the reason why the people want that because they want in the old age those childrens can take care of them but sometimes the parents forget that to raised the children it took a lot of effords and money especially for the increasingly expensive cost of education and these situations too makes some of my friends have decide to childless for their entire life

[Mahanton]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

A man is not qualified to marry when he cannot support himself. If he cannot earn his own income, then how will he feed his wife after getting married and how will he establish himself because he himself is an incompetent person. How can he have children if he is not able to earn enough to feed his wife? There is no question of having children here.

Basically there are no retirement moment for man because for their life the man should have ability to feed their family even when they were retire the man should be can earn money to buy family daily needs and having children is the dreaming of some people and the reason why the people want that because they want in the old age those childrens can take care of them but sometimes the parents forget that to raised the children it took a lot of effords and money especially for the increasingly expensive cost of education and these situations too makes some of my friends have decide to childless for their entire life

Financial stability is one of the most important factors when considering starting a family without a reliable income or savings any unexpected event like medical emergencies job loss or even sudden economic changes can create pressure that makes raising children extremely difficult it’s not just about providing food or shelter but also education healthcare and opportunities for growth without preparation parents and children can both suffer long term consequences.Emotional readiness is just as critical raising kids takes constant attention patience and energy parents who are struggling to support themselves financially often cannot meet these needs which can affect children’s development education and overall well being it’s not just about wanting children but being able to give them a safe and supportive environment.

Society often glorifies parenthood as an achievement but responsible parenting is about timing planning and stability choosing to stay childless or delaying parenthood can be a conscious and smart decision it allows individuals to focus on personal growth career stability and building a foundation that can support a family in the future when the time is right children can then be raised in an environment that nurtures them properly and ensures they have the best possible start in life.

[imthegreat]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

To have children or not is an absolutely individual desire of any couple of young people who should come to the point of becoming economically independent and at the same time fully completed individuals who can easily overcome life's difficult tasks, and only then should they have children. If, of course, they want it.

[Mate2237]

I agree with you because critically looking at society and the failure of the collapse of moral and even the increase in criminality in the world today it's not unconnected to the failure of parents who supposed not to give birth at the first place due to their economic situation, because there is no way a man or woman who has not been able to take care of one self to give birth to children's that they can't take care of.


Alot of criminal who has become a problem to society is as a result of frustration because the people who have birth to them were not fit to take care of their parental duties.

[X-ray]

I agree with you because critically looking at society and the failure of the collapse of moral and even the increase in criminality in the world today it's not unconnected to the failure of parents who supposed not to give birth at the first place due to their economic situation, because there is no way a man or woman who has not been able to take care of one self to give birth to children's that they can't take care of.


Alot of criminal who has become a problem to society is as a result of frustration because the people who have birth to them were not fit to take care of their parental duties.

We should realize as well that the increased criminality rate can be blamed to the fact that the economy has become tougher.

Rent taking up big chunk of our salary is already a concern. People back then can raise kids without worrying about making ends meet, They can even buy house in their early 30s.

Nowadays I'm not even sure people can buy house in their 50s. The decrease in birth rate in most of developed nations aren't some rocket science.

[DanWalker]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

For me, it depends on each couple's thoughts and desires. There is no exact answer because our thoughts, circumstances and living environments are not the same.

But I want to ask you and those who think it is necessary to be financially stable before having children one thing. Do you know when you will improve your financial situation and become well off? Does it take you 5 years, 10 years or 50 years to do it? And what will you do and what plans do you have if you don't improve your financial situation? Will you never have children?

[ThankGodkk2]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

To the best of my knowledge it's of a great importance for one to have kids.

In as much as you are a man on this earth.

Having kids is one of the most important things that brought us to this earth which everyone else owes himself that obligation.
An with the help of God almighty which blesses marriage I don't think anyone can pass through much difficulties in raising their kids.

That's why you see on an average man who's handwork in a bricklayer will raise a child today to be a doctor, lawyer's and teacher's and so on.it all depends on the parents in child bringing up.

It doesn't matter what you do for a living to beer kid's.

There's a vision of the Bible that says go yeah to the world and multiply.
So this chapter knows that everyone most certainly beer kids.

So using your income as an option to beer kids is not a good omen in this universe.

But what i will suggest is that one should know the level of child bearing when you already know how you get your source of survival.

With this every one will have to train his or her child in any condition.

I agree with you because critically looking at society and the failure of the collapse of moral and even the increase in criminality in the world today it's not unconnected to the failure of parents who supposed not to give birth at the first place due to their economic situation, because there is no way a man or woman who has not been able to take care of one self to give birth to children's that they can't take care of.


Alot of criminal who has become a problem to society is as a result of frustration because the people who have birth to them were not fit to take care of their parental duties.

There's no part of the world today you won't find a child who's a problem to his parents.

This is not just all about up bringing of a child as per financial system of the man's income.

There are those who's parents have probably provided everything else they want yet they will still not be useful them.

In most cases it's also the financial aspect of the man who is the head that's the reason too.

But looking at it biblical facts about it.every man is obliged to bear kids irrespective of your financial status.
The fact is that you most certainly knows what is your financial strength in time's of giving birth.

Then given your the best education ever is not all that's required of you.

You most certainly play that parental rights to get your children to the limelight.

Because you might have what ever it takes for taking care of them all at the end you end up raising criminals to the society.

This is why everyone is expected to play part in their home bringing of a child it's not all about having the money or quality education ever.

[libert19]

An with the help of God almighty which blesses marriage I don't think anyone can pass through much difficulties in raising their kids.

Lol, I come from a third world, and I have seen kids in dire state. Also, lord Almighty blesses anyone with a kid who can fuck so it's not that deep.

There are those who's parents have probably provided everything else they want yet they will still not be useful them.

Raise kids so they can be useful to you!? Fuck outta here.

But looking at it biblical facts about it.every man is obliged to bear kids irrespective of your financial status.

You should call it more like biblical garbage.

This is why everyone is expected to play part in their home bringing of a child it's not all about having the money or quality education ever.

Financial security and quality education play utmost importance in child's well being and how it's going to turn out as an adult.

[xandry]

The global economic meltdown has made it so that anyone who is not well off financially is thinking less of having kids they bring up to the world to suffer.

What does the global economic crisis have to do with it? Have you ever heard of such a thing as child-free? Many famous people openly stated that they did not want children, and this was decades before the economic crisis. And the very concept of child-free appeared back in the seventies.

I'll give you a simple reason why. I don't wanna die all alone on my deathbed. I want my children to be there to give me a proper farewell. You know what I mean.

I understand what you mean, but without the jokes, no one knows how your children will treat their parents when they get old.
Imagine, you invest a lot of money and time, emotions in your child, and in the end he (or she) becomes a bad person and for some reason stops communicating with you. There's no guarantee that you won't die alone just because you once had a baby.

[DYING_S0UL]

I'll give you a simple reason why. I don't wanna die all alone on my deathbed. I want my children to be there to give me a proper farewell. You know what I mean.

I understand what you mean, but without the jokes, no one knows how your children will treat their parents when they get old.
Imagine, you invest a lot of money and time, emotions in your child, and in the end he (or she) becomes a bad person and for some reason stops communicating with you. There's no guarantee that you won't die alone just because you once had a baby.

I get your point, but you have to consider the cultural, religion and regional factor too! I have heard, that in the western countries or mostly in the USA or similar,  children (adult) needs to take appointment to visit their parents, or the vise versa! I have also seen many videos escalating in the social media where childrens or the parents sues each others for money, that they lives separately! To be honest, we don't have this kind of mentality or how do i put it 'cultural thing" here or very rarely! I would never consider raising my children as any sort of investments! Where I'm from parents and children lives under the same roof! Parents raises their children, and later when they old up, children takes care of them. This is a typical scenario in most of the household here (asian)! We are raised that way, our religion tells us to take care of our parents when they get old! I hope u understand what I'm trying to tell here!

But again, yes you are correct! No place is exceptions, there always will be some bad seeds! Not all our fingers are of same size, that also applies for our children! So yes, it isn't anything uncommon. We also seen many cases of bad children abandoning their parents! As for my own family, we don't have anything like that! All of us are loved, respected and taken care of!

[coolcoinz]

Having children as an investment is stupid. You have children because you don't want to be alone. You want someone to talk to when you're old.
The truth is we eventually die, but there's a way to leave something behind. We leave a part of ourselves in our children. They keep all the memories and remember all the things that we taught them.

99% of children will cost you more to raise than they can ever give you back, simply because that's how time works. If you have a kid in your 30s, by the time he or she becomes financially stable you'll be in your 60s. How many years will you have in which you can really enjoy life, even with a lot of money? 10? Are you going to leave your kids with the thought that you were a burden to them in your last years?

I'd like them to enjoy life, do all the things that I wasn't able to do and not worry about me. I'll make sure I have enough money to take care of myself when I'm 60+ and let my kids start their families and have fun.

[Ivystar5]

What does the global economic crisis have to do with it? Have you ever heard of such a thing as child-free? Many famous people openly stated that they did not want children, and this was decades before the economic crisis. And the very concept of child-free appeared back in the seventies.

From the unset there are people who have always valued child-free and I have one around me currently who decided not to have kids not because he is financially not capable or potentially not capable in terms of biology but then, as a result of experience and other stuffs has ended up to be child-free, traced back to his root found out that some of the family traits is few individuals usually decides to be child free and it has been for so long hence I agree with you that the concept of child-free is dated back in the early days.

I'll give you a simple reason why. I don't wanna die all alone on my deathbed. I want my children to be there to give me a proper farewell. You know what I mean.

I understand what you mean, but without the jokes, no one knows how your children will treat their parents when they get old.
Imagine, you invest a lot of money and time, emotions in your child, and in the end he (or she) becomes a bad person and for some reason stops communicating with you. There's no guarantee that you won't die alone just because you once had a baby.

Or imagine pouring out your emotions into a male child and investing in him and later in the nearest future as one who succeds your legacy decided to transfer gender leaving you devastated in thoughts, it's some of the recent occasions I've been reading in articles
Saw the other thread and decided instead of helping op see his thread as relevance came back to the root thread. .

[MainIbem]

Having children as an investment is stupid. You have children because you don't want to be alone. You want someone to talk to when you're old.

That's a poor man's mentality, the ones that failed in using their useful age to seize opportunities or create one and make a fortune so they feel they'll just birth children and leave the responsibilities of generating wealth in future for their kids, thinking about it is kind of insane cause they forget that it the responsibility to parents to give kids proper upbringing and direct them through the path that would lead them to opportunities that would bring good fortune, forgetting that they'll still need to give their kids basic education that would help them acquire wealth in future. It's even better to be child free than have such mentality.

[rat03gopoh]

The modern slavery system will always maintain economic inequality to function; the lower classes will always serve those one level above them. The upper classes may one day play the role of the lower classes. If you think people in developed countries are several levels more prosperous than you, you're wrong. Perhaps it's better to distinguish between the poor and the foolish who worry about raising and educating children. Even if those considered "poor" today decided to "not have children," would the decline end? On the other hand, I have a message: have children, or your country will one day be taken over by an overpopulated poor nation.

[bakasabo]

Having children as an investment is stupid. You have children because you don't want to be alone. You want someone to talk to when you're old.
The truth is we eventually die, but there's a way to leave something behind. We leave a part of ourselves in our children. They keep all the memories and remember all the things that we taught them.

99% of children will cost you more to raise than they can ever give you back, simply because that's how time works. If you have a kid in your 30s, by the time he or she becomes financially stable you'll be in your 60s. How many years will you have in which you can really enjoy life, even with a lot of money? 10? Are you going to leave your kids with the thought that you were a burden to them in your last years?

I'd like them to enjoy life, do all the things that I wasn't able to do and not worry about me. I'll make sure I have enough money to take care of myself when I'm 60+ and let my kids start their families and have fun.

I think you are a very selfish person that does not want to change anything in your life. I bet you also wont get married (get married is expensive?), because that is unprofitable, second half can take half of what you had and you will have to spend money on second half until you die.

People dont bring children because they want to profit from it and not only to have someone to talk when they get old. Consider that children are emotions and great memories, what you will remember and replay in your head once you get old. Those memories will allow you virtually to go into past and live moments of your youth once again.

[libert19]

I'll give you a simple reason why. I don't wanna die all alone on my deathbed. I want my children to be there to give me a proper farewell. You know what I mean.

I understand what you mean, but without the jokes, no one knows how your children will treat their parents when they get old.
Imagine, you invest a lot of money and time, emotions in your child, and in the end he (or she) becomes a bad person and for some reason stops communicating with you. There's no guarantee that you won't die alone just because you once had a baby.

I have learned that if a child distances oneself from parents after becoming an adult, there must be some fault on parents part. I have read a good amount of stuff on narcissism, it's wild what such parents do to their own children.

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Or imagine pouring out your emotions into a male child and investing in him and later in the nearest future as one who succeds your legacy decided to transfer gender leaving you devastated in thoughts, it's some of the recent occasions I've been reading in articles

Parents should raise children knowing they are individuals with their own identity, and they can do as they please with their life.

Saw the other thread and decided instead of helping op see his thread as relevance came back to the root thread. .

That's nice of you, appreciate that.

[Ivystar5]

Parents should raise children knowing they are individuals with their own identity, and they can do as they please with their life.

Saw the other thread and decided instead of helping op see his thread as relevance came back to the root thread. .

That's nice of you, appreciate that.

You're right maybe the culture I belong does not permit such and that must have affected my thoughts towards some things, it's good as everyone is entitled to his identity but then regardless of that disappointing the parents who sacrificed to bring up with whatever choice you make is some how a very dumb decision one can make. yet it's also on the part of the parent to stop the mentality of children being there retirement plan or investment that has to bring returns instead see it as a volunteer service they provide for family sake.

[libert19]

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You're right maybe the culture I belong does not permit such and that must have affected my thoughts towards some things, it's good as everyone is entitled to his identity but then regardless of that disappointing the parents who sacrificed to bring up with whatever choice you make is some how a very dumb decision one can make. yet it's also on the part of the parent to stop the mentality of children being there retirement plan or investment that has to bring returns instead see it as a volunteer service they provide for family sake.

I am not fan of word, 'sacrifice', that's so often used because children do not ask to be born here — if you decide to bring them into this word, you must give them best you can and without taking iota of credit for the same, and neither do children owe anything to their parents for giving them existence that is literally a lifetime of maintenance (sure, some people enjoy doing this maintenance, it's different thing) and eventual death.