Massive alt farm of my country - 10+ accounts.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Remove the random people who genuinely wanted to help, and check the rest and their merit transfers in this thread. Everything will mirror this post from JollyGood.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562747.msg66014720#msg66014720

The donations of those whose names JollyGood has mentioned are not donations but the donations of those whose names JollyGood has not mentioned are not real donations. I donated there from a humanitarian point of view, not only there, I always try to donate for humanitarian work from my side. When I donate offline, I do not get anything in return for the donation, so what is the real purpose of my donation? After donating in some danger, if I have to hear that he is donating for some purpose, then I am willing to listen to it because instead of listening to this little thing of mine, if my little money is used for the benefit of the people in danger, I will like it. And I request you to do as much verification as necessary about my account, you should verify my account until you have doubts. However, I request you not to abuse your power based on suspicion until my allegations are proven.

Heh, I didn't say you were there. But now you've admitted it yourself. There may have been a donation, but from a different account.

[Fuso.hp]

Remove the random people who genuinely wanted to help, and check the rest and their merit transfers in this thread. Everything will mirror this post from JollyGood.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562747.msg66014720#msg66014720

The donations of those whose names JollyGood has mentioned are not donations but the donations of those whose names JollyGood has not mentioned are not real donations. I donated there from a humanitarian point of view, not only there, I always try to donate for humanitarian work from my side. When I donate offline, I do not get anything in return for the donation, so what is the real purpose of my donation? After donating in some danger, if I have to hear that he is donating for some purpose, then I am willing to listen to it because instead of listening to this little thing of mine, if my little money is used for the benefit of the people in danger, I will like it. And I request you to do as much verification as necessary about my account, you should verify my account until you have doubts. However, I request you not to abuse your power based on suspicion until my allegations are proven.

Heh, I didn't say you were there. But now you've admitted it yourself. There may have been a donation, but from a different account.

Yes, I donated here, not only here, I donated in the floods in Pakistan, I donated in the floods in Sylhet, Bangladesh, but I did not want publicity, so my donation remained secret. My name is clearly mentioned in JollyGood's post and except for the accounts you mentioned @JollyGood, all are real donors, that's why I replied to you. And I clearly saw that my name is not there in the link where the names of all the donors are mentioned, I did not comment without seeing it.

[nutildah]

The interesting point is the point 5, if the admin want to reveal his alt account, it would be a strong evidence.

I think this is definitely the most solid piece of evidence but I'd need to see how they are connected on Altcoinstalks. The red dot means its an alt but where does it say which accounts belong to the same owner.

They teleported some of their accounts to the other forum, where multiple account is now allowed.
After several warnings, the admin added the Zoom 1 tag to their accounts and added a red dot, indicating that they are operating multiple accounts.

...

Some of their accounts

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97179
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97409
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97410
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97176
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97229
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=88979
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=75323

I notice most of these accounts stopped posting on the same day -- so they all got the dot back then but don't have it now?

In all Shishir99 you have done a good job but I need a bit of time to thoroughly digest it -- perhaps some more things will come to light over the next few days that make it all make a bit more sense.

[DYING_S0UL]

I notice most of these accounts stopped posting on the same day -- so they all got the dot back then but don't have it now?

In all Shishir99 you have done a good job but I need a bit of time to thoroughly digest it -- perhaps some more things will come to light over the next few days that make it all make a bit more sense.

What do you mean by "dont have it now"? That red dot is a permanent thing, they. still have it, it won't disappear on it's own, altcoinstalks admin have to manually remove it, in case circumstance changes.

He surely did a good job. He and some other members has been warning all these abusers for many months now but none of them seemed to care. Majority of them even stopped coming to the local section, posting only in the global boards. I doubt whether they would come to this thread to defend themselves. Already a day passed and only one user showed up..

[JollyGood]

The accounts farmers behind some of the farms have a strategy. They believe they are untouchable if they make a donation, report malware, report other farmed accounts or report trust/merit abuse.

I think it is long overdue, now is the time to go after as many nefarious accounts as possible in order to allow the forum a temporary reprieve from being swarmed by account farmers.

But even when the topic of helping Ukraine was created, these alternative accounts rallied to participate, donating literally pennies and receiving ten merits in return from the merit source, and as a bonus, transferring merits among themselves. It's worth noting that each of their accounts received the utmost attention, sending merits while sending nothing to other donors.
It's amazing how charitable all the accounts collected by JollyGood turned out to be.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493147.msg64064929#msg64064929

Remove the random people who genuinely wanted to help, and check the rest and their merit transfers in this thread. Everything will mirror this post from JollyGood.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562747.msg66014720#msg66014720

[Shishir99]

Heh, I didn't say you were there. But now you've admitted it yourself. There may have been a donation, but from a different account.

These low-life individuals did many things, but did not mention them publicly. He just admitted that he donated, but it was with another account, as you pointed out. They consider the forum campaign a career and make a living from it.

I notice most of these accounts stopped posting on the same day -- so they all got the dot back then but don't have it now?

I understand why you got confused. Actually, the red dot is not visible on their profile. You will see the Zoom1 or Zoom tag on their profile when you visit their profile link. You will be able to see the red dot on their posts only. For example, click on this link and you will see the red dot under their name - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319370.msg1526333#msg1526333

They all have red dots, and this is a permanent condition.

Also, follow their UID, and I think you will know who is who

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97409
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97410

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97176
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97179

[JollyGood]

Most of the names are identical to those mentioned in other threads therefore there is some substance and reason to discuss these accounts. Most (if not all) of these accounts should never have been enrolled in campaigns. Hopefully, they will all be removed the campaigns they seem to be currently enrolled in.

LDL
Popkon6
2Pizza410000BTC
HelliumZ
Fuso.hp
cryptoWODL
Lidger
synchronym
AirtelBuzz

[examplens]

The interesting point is the point 5, if the admin want to reveal his alt account, it would be a strong evidence.

I think this is definitely the most solid piece of evidence but I'd need to see how they are connected on Altcoinstalks. The red dot means its an alt but where does it say which accounts belong to the same owner.

As I understand it, on the AltcoinsTalks forum, the admin decides to flag alternate accounts based on direct access to users' IP address logs, as has been the case in similar situations before. It is not allowed to have more than one independent account on this forum. You can have more than one, but they must be clearly linked, and only one has the right to participate in campaigns, awards, contests, etc.
The search function there is quite unusable, so it is a bit complicated to find a direct quote for these claims by the admin.

[babo]

As I understand it, on the AltcoinsTalks forum, the admin decides to flag alternate accounts based on direct access to users' IP address logs, as has been the case in similar situations before. It is not allowed to have more than one independent account on this forum. You can have more than one, but they must be clearly linked, and only one has the right to participate in campaigns, awards, contests, etc.
The search function there is quite unusable, so it is a bit complicated to find a direct quote for these claims by the admin.

It's a pretty stupid decision for many reasons.
many connect from tor, and from tor you often have the same exit nodes, so it makes no sense to rely on the ip
same, they could use the VPN, so same story

as a basis for associating accounts it is a very stupid system
how stupid it is that he decided to put cloud flare in front, boasting about a ddos ​​that doesn't exist

[DYING_S0UL]

As I understand it, on the AltcoinsTalks forum, the admin decides to flag alternate accounts based on direct access to users' IP address logs, as has been the case in similar situations before. It is not allowed to have more than one independent account on this forum. You can have more than one, but they must be clearly linked, and only one has the right to participate in campaigns, awards, contests, etc.
The search function there is quite unusable, so it is a bit complicated to find a direct quote for these claims by the admin.

It's a pretty stupid decision for many reasons.
many connect from tor, and from tor you often have the same exit nodes, so it makes no sense to rely on the ip
same, they could use the VPN, so same story

as a basis for associating accounts it is a very stupid system
how stupid it is that he decided to put cloud flare in front, boasting about a ddos ​​that doesn't exist

FYI:

here are some of the direct quotes from the administrator group.

Any user who does not comply with the rules (at least the strictest ones, such as not cheating in signature campaigns) will be flagged and added to the zoom group without exception.

Users are not required to declare multiple accounts, but if they are found to be violating forum rules by using multiple accounts or participating in signature campaigns, for example, they will receive a red dot for the reasons mentioned above. You might be wondering, if they're not required to declare their accounts, why do they receive a red dot? It's simply to ensure that all users have the same opportunities.

[babo]

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I know, I know the issue.. honestly I'm not impacted, like other issues (see cloudflare where I don't agree with the aggressive use)
However even if I'm not impacted I can't say it's a smart thing to do, regardless I'm against it.. sorry for OT

we can close OT here about altcointalks

[God Of Thunder]

As I understand it, on the AltcoinsTalks forum, the admin decides to flag alternate accounts based on direct access to users' IP address logs, as has been the case in similar situations before. It is not allowed to have more than one independent account on this forum. You can have more than one, but they must be clearly linked, and only one has the right to participate in campaigns, awards, contests, etc.
The search function there is quite unusable, so it is a bit complicated to find a direct quote for these claims by the admin.

It's a pretty stupid decision for many reasons.
many connect from tor, and from tor you often have the same exit nodes, so it makes no sense to rely on the ip
same, they could use the VPN, so same story

as a basis for associating accounts it is a very stupid system
how stupid it is that he decided to put cloud flare in front, boasting about a ddos ​​that doesn't exist

It is up to you to say whatever you want. As DS quoted some posts and pointed out, they do not add a tag only for simple rule violations. They are not required to declare their alternative accounts if it is not participate in signature campaigns or do not violate the major rules. Additionally, the admin does not apply the red dot solely based on a single IP connection. Each time you post on the forum, the post includes your IP address, and you can see that under your post in the bottom right corner.

If you use Tor or a VPN, your IP address would be different each session (At least each day). However, when your IP address matches every day you post, it is clear that you are using alternative accounts. I am making this assumption based on my understanding. examplens is Senator there while I am just a Junior Mod, and he knows more information.

we can close OT here about altcointalks

Not entirely OT since the evidence includes Altcoinstalks forum accounts.

[babo]

It is up to you to say whatever you want. As DS quoted some posts and pointed out, they do not add a tag only for simple rule violations. They are not required to declare their alternative accounts if it is not participate in signature campaigns or do not violate the major rules. Additionally, the admin does not apply the red dot solely based on a single IP connection. Each time you post on the forum, the post includes your IP address, and you can see that under your post in the bottom right corner.

If you use Tor or a VPN, your IP address would be different each session (At least each day). However, when your IP address matches every day you post, it is clear that you are using alternative accounts. I am making this assumption based on my understanding. examplens is Senator there while I am just a Junior Mod, and he knows more information.

ah if it is considered on a daily basis then it is not a problem
I thought it was used on a long-term basis, in this case it is NOT appropriate

if user x matches ip address with user y TODAY then it makes sense
if it is considered for a long time then no, since the IPs of the exit nodes are always the same


in any case you have to stay calm, I didn't say something banal or here (bitcointalk) we use same approach.. but we dont use because many use TOR
and i only say my opinion by tech man

[Rikafip]

As I understand it, on the AltcoinsTalks forum, the admin decides to flag alternate accounts based on direct access to users' IP address logs, as has been the case in similar situations before.

I sure hope that he looks at something more other than IP address, as babo pointed out there are many reason why you could share IP address with someone. For example, I am always using VPN when logging on altcointalk, and I am sure many more are doing the same.

[Shishir99]

I sure hope that he looks at something more other than IP address, as babo pointed out there are many reason why you could share IP address with someone. For example, I am always using VPN when logging on altcointalk, and I am sure many more are doing the same.

I think he does.
I think you noticed the activity bar in every profile, which actually shows when you are mostly active and write your posts. There is a possibility that the admin takes that into consideration as well. There could be other data like device information. We may share the network, but device sharing is rare. If someone says they were sharing the device, I know they are a liar. If you have seen such excuses in this forum, they are alt accounts owners who just forgot to switch their account.