Massive alt farm of my country - 10+ accounts.

[Shishir99]

Hey there!

I have been observing this alt farm for a long time in my local thread. I criticised them here and there, but I always wanted them to correct themself instead of repeating what they were doing. They have been exchanging merits between their alt accounts, participating in the same campaign with their alternative accounts, and they have never responded to any accusations against them, as that would expose them further. I thought they would correct themself. However, I was wrong; they have continued to do this, and they even tried to portray me as a fraudster simply because I have been criticising them. It's time to expose them.

The listed accounts are:

LDL
Popkon6
2Pizza410000BTC
HelliumZ
Fuso.hp
cryptoWODL
Lidger
synchronym
AirtelBuzz

There are a few more that I will add. They have dozens of accounts that I can no longer remember. More threads regarding this farm:
topman21 scam my 40$ help me
Interesting behaviour by the "MrNata" account that led to possible account farm
Community feedback about merit and those whores


Q: Is there any blockchain connection?
A: No, it's because they become too expert that they do not repeat this mistake anymore, and they learned this from their previous mistakes.

Q: How do they manage their addresses so that they do not connect?
A: This is how they do it.

#1. Apply without posting your username and addresses:

Since ninjastic.space and Loyce.club bot scrap the post instantly and link the address to an account, they started posting applications without a username and the addresses, so they do not mistakenly post other accounts' usernames and addresses from a different account. You can check it from their service board post history. Let me show you some examples. * Click on more examples to see the list of their applications on the service board.


LDL -  More examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=LDL&board=52



Popkon6 - More examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Popkon6&board=52



2Pizza410000BTC - More Examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=2Pizza410000BTC&board=52



HelliumZ - More Examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=HelliumZ&board=52



Fuso.hp - More Examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Fuso.hp&board=52



cryptoWODL - More Examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=cryptoWODL&board=52



Lidger -  More Examples: - https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Lidger&board=52



synchronym - https://ninjastic.space/search?author=synchronym&board=52



AirtelBuzz - More Examples: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=AirtelBuzz&board=52
Due to the reason above, you will be unable to connect any wallets within this alt farm. They are expert now. Don't we apply without a Bitcoin address? Yes, we do and edit later. But what is the chance that this entire farm always posts without the address and later edits and adds the address?
#2. Exchange merits within a closed circle.
Take a look at the BPIP profile and merit exchange statistics of these accounts. Do these names look familiar?








#3. All of them are my fellow Bangladeshi people who love to make money from the forum.

#4. Abuse in campaigns -

Take a look at these applications of this campaign and let me know what you understand.

https://ninjastic.space/post/65898949
https://ninjastic.space/post/65898985
https://ninjastic.space/post/65899023
https://ninjastic.space/post/65899327
https://ninjastic.space/post/65898925

#5. Exposed on another forum.
They teleported some of their accounts to the other forum, where multiple account is now allowed.
After several warnings, the admin added the Zoom 1 tag to their accounts and added a red dot, indicating that they are operating multiple accounts.



Some of their accounts

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97179
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97409
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97410
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97176
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97229
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=88979
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=75323

I will add more info later. Tired now. There are dozens more.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Interesting investigation, but based on what has been presented, I don't see enough evidence to red tag anyone. Although I wouldn't be surprised if more evidence comes to light, as often happens in these cases, and then the tag would indeed be justified.

Number 3 referring to merit exchange should be number 2.

Point number one is curious and quite telling, but nothing more than circumstantial evidence. Point number two of merit exchange would be correct if the supposition that they are all alt accounts managed by the same person were true.

Regarding point number 3, the only problem with making money from the forum is if you do it dishonestly, which is what remains to be proven here.

And regarding number 4, in theory there is no problem applying for the same campaign with several of your alts as long as you only join with one account. Normally, if more than one of these types of multi-accounts are accepted in the same campaign, they will join with as many accounts as accepted, but if this has not happened, there is no rule broken either.

[LDL]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

[Fuso.hp]

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@Sagor0707 Another multi-account of yours, here you tried to run a bounty campaign as a different member and to make your alternate account credible you sent 20 merits from your account. Although your attempt failed and you could have made yourself known as a successful bounty manager with an alternative account, you would have been cheating here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3831388.msg37353498#msg37353498

Don't be afraid now, I will carefully open a separate topic for you. Be prepared, don't go offline.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

There are a few more that I will add. They have dozens of accounts that I can no longer remember.
Q: Is there any blockchain connection?
A: No, it's because they become too expert that they do not repeat this mistake anymore, and they learned this from their previous mistakes.

Blockchain account connection has always been the most common means we verify that two or more accounts actually connects with each other, so until then, I think this is still mere an allegation, until proven with all reasonable doubt. But moreover, I don't know what others will have to say regarding this case.

Q: How do they manage their addresses so that they do not connect?
A: This is how they do it.

#1. Apply without posting your username and addresses:

To be frankly speaking, applying for a campaign without posting of details has been a common practice by people on this forum, most especially for people who wants their application appear on the top when immediately a campaign is been published for available slots. So using only it as a reason why you think these accounts are connected, is not actually enough to verify the authenticity of your claim my friend. Because if they had the same posting patterns or style, that would have been a reasonable clue, but still not enough.

[Why2why]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

[LDL]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

Before calling someone a criminal, prove their criminal activities. You cannot call someone a criminal without proof. Someone mentioned a name here and it became criminal. What is happening, mentioning a name does not make it criminal. There are some accounts being unnecessarily linked here out of personal anger, which never falls within the forum rules. I strongly condemn all these personal attacks. There are many reputable users here who have the wise experience to analyze the criminality of the forum. All those wise analysts know what is criminality. Not ignorant like you.

[Shishir99]

Don't be afraid now, I will carefully open a separate topic for you. Be prepared, don't go offline.

Cry more!
More and more are coming, and all your accounts will be exposed, sir.
You can't hug me and cry again like you did in the past with someone. Topman and all those negatively tagged sold accounts will be there as well.

I don't even remember those people. But yes, I tried to be a bounty campaign manager and I learned some lesson back in 2019 once a project I suspected to be a scam. It is good that you are bringing up some good memory. But these are not going to defend you. Good luck sir.

Point number one is curious and quite telling, but nothing more than circumstantial evidence. Point number two of merit exchange would be correct if the supposition that they are all alt accounts managed by the same person were true.

Not the same person. However, as I have learned from others, three of their brothers manage these accounts, and dozens more accounts were previously exposed. Some people even know them in person. But I cannot tell their name due to privacy reasons. I was requested not to reveal anything. But I assure you, they make a living from the forum, and they are afraid of losing these accounts. There are a few more left, which I plan to add later. But I suspect they will attempt suicide.

The same group of people got exposed on the altcoinstalks.com forum, and the admin did the investigation. The admin red-tagged all their accounts there. I have updated the OP and added another point.

They teleported some of their accounts to the other forum, where multiple account is now allowed.
After several warnings, the admin added the Zoom 1 tag to their accounts and added a red dot, indicating that they are operating multiple accounts.



Some of their accounts

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97179
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97409
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97410
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97176
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97229
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=88979
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=75323

[Fuso.hp]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

As soon as I started talking about a cheater, the cheater's semen appeared. If you have the courage, post it here on your main account.

[Why2why]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

As soon as I started talking about a cheater, the cheater's semen appeared. If you have the courage, post it here on your main account.

Fuso.hp your above comments still is an evidence, I quote your LDL account and you replied me with your Fuso.hp, your brain is skipping how do you manage all this accounts with massive merit's on all of them, you must have one other alts that is a merit's source.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

But wait, are you sure you are actually okay? Or you are high on alcohol this morning?. Because what do you meant by "your sponsors will defend your criminal lifestyle just like the first comment?, Because "Free Market Capitalist" did actually made the first comment on this thread. So are you trying to say "Free Market Capitalist" is the one sponsoring "LDL"? Because it is obvious, it seems you are mad, and needs to be taken to a psychiatric hospital for immediate check-up.

So because he didn't agree with O.P's allegation and only asked for more proof,  he is now a sponsor, right? Lolz.😂😂.. Please stop joking and be serious for once.  

This is a very vital and sensitive case, and we need authentic proof and not just mere emotional allegations.

Thanks God bless the forum

[lovesmayfamilis]

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

But wait, are you sure you are actually okay? Or you are high on alcohol this morning?. Because what do you meant by "your sponsors will defend your criminal lifestyle just like the first comment?, Because "Free Market Capitalist" did actually made the first comment on this thread. So are you trying to say "Free Market Capitalist" is the one sponsoring "LDL"? Because it is obvious, it seems you are mad, and needs to be taken to a psychiatric hospital for immediate check-up.

It seems like you're trying to pit people who are simply commenting and have no involvement in the topic against each other.

Don't be afraid now, I will carefully open a separate topic for you. Be prepared, don't go offline.

I'm curious, what motivated you to attack Shishir99? I imagine the negative JollyGood tag raised your blood pressure and anxiety about the future? Also, was it his mood about many accounts simply ignoring his invitation to the thread? But yes, I read that Shishir99 supported him, claiming he knew something, yet you're motivating him to confirm his knowledge by writing a post that seemingly had nothing to do with him. Although, just recently, he was quite thoughtful about all the accounts in your local section, making it clear that the attacks on many users are unfair.

Anyway, don't they deserve negative feedback on their profile? Or is it reserved for the people who belong to my country?

Not the same person. However, as I have learned from others, three of their brothers manage these accounts,...

I remember one who claimed to be a brother https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3417917.  In fact, this group has been in everyone's sights for a long time. I can't say it's the same person, but the fact that his posting patterns and locations are quite similar suggests they're alts.

[Solosanz]

I laughed when I see one of them posting in JG's topic when there's no correlation with @OP, which is off topic.

I also notice there are users who avoid to write their username and address when they apply for a campaign, I thought they just want to avoid cheat busters to caught them, but yeah it could be use to make a connection to other users.

The interesting point is the point 5, if the admin want to reveal his alt account, it would be a strong evidence.

[Satofan44]

Point number one is curious and quite telling, but nothing more than circumstantial evidence. Point number two of merit exchange would be correct if the supposition that they are all alt accounts managed by the same person were true.

Statistically speaking there is no realistic chance that so many users, who are related to each other in some ways, by chance are making applications in the improper way. This is better than "circumstantial evidence". More than enough for me, you guys are way too lenient because you don't understand how adversaries think. Anyways number 5 confirms it. Requiring blockchain evidence these days is dumb. Any person can operate any number of accounts without ever connecting them simply by opening up as many exchange accounts as needed. They don't need to buy KYC, they don't need to invest anything -- they just need to register with as many centralized exchanges as they need.

Practically many cheaters are laughing at you (plural) these days.

[julerz12]

#5. Exposed on another forum.
They teleported some of their accounts to the other forum, where multiple account is now allowed.
After several warnings, the admin added the Zoom 1 tag to their accounts and added a red dot, indicating that they are operating multiple accounts.

This could be a useful proof if admins from ATT share a more concrete evidence like IP connections, sadly that's usually not the case. I think due to privacy reasons, they don't publicly post these informations and just immediately move any alt accounts to zoom 1 group (aka alt-accounts group).
However, they do send a pm to campaign managers from time to time if the involved accounts are enrolled in a certain campaign.
So, without those, we could only assume they are alt accounts of someone but have no way of knowing the exact connections, except, maybe with the merit traces (if that counts).

[DYING_S0UL]

Point number one is curious and quite telling, but nothing more than circumstantial evidence. Point number two of merit exchange would be correct if the supposition that they are all alt accounts managed by the same person were true.

The same group of people got exposed on the altcoinstalks.com forum, and the admin did the investigation. The admin red-tagged all their accounts there. I have updated the OP and added another point.

They teleported some of their accounts to the other forum, where multiple account is now allowed.
After several warnings, the admin added the Zoom 1 tag to their accounts and added a red dot, indicating that they are operating multiple accounts.



Some of their accounts
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Anyways number 5 confirms it...snip...

This could be a useful proof if admins from ATT share a more concrete evidence like IP connections, sadly that's usually not the case. I think due to privacy reasons, they don't publicly post these informations and just immediately move any alt accounts to zoom 1 group (aka alt-accounts group).
However, they do send a pm to campaign managers from time to time if the involved accounts are enrolled in a certain campaign.
So, without those, we could only assume they are alt accounts of someone but have no way of knowing the exact connections, except, maybe with the merit traces (if that counts).

Adding a little clarification to the 'Red dot" or "Zoom1" group, Yes, you are correct, it is given to multi account users, but there's a catch to it. According to the Admin and President of Altcoinstalks, as far as I understood, It is given only to those who were using multiple accounts to do shady things, like violating the campaign rules by participating in sigs with more than one accounts.

The rules states that you have to declare your duplicate accounts mo matter what, but as long as you are not abusing others' rights, for example, taking multiple slots in a paid signature campaign, the admin or President normally won't/didn't say/do anything strict, showing patience or giving users chances to declare and they did on many occasions, until someone thought they were invincible and that they could enrol all their account in sigs (crossing the line). The moment they did it was when that Red Dot appeared.

I have specifically asked the Altcoinstalk admin, President, Ex-President multiple times, across several threads, whether a user were assigned this red dot only for having multiple account. And they never gave a clear, straight cut "Yes" answer, meaning those with red dot definitely abused some other rules. Examples are paid signature. So it's safe to assume, normally admin doesn't hand out these red dots, as long as users operating multi accounts but not violating rules by enrolling more than one in sigs.

So the point is those with red dots clear cheated on the other forum, and possibly they are cheating here too.  

This comment below implies what I was referring to,

Users are not required to declare multiple accounts, but if they are found to be violating forum rules by using multiple accounts or participating in signature campaigns, for example, they will receive a red dot for the reasons mentioned above. You might be wondering, if they're not required to declare their accounts, why do they receive a red dot? It's simply to ensure that all users have the same opportunities.

Any user who does not comply with the rules (at least the strictest ones, such as not cheating in signature campaigns) will be flagged and added to the zoom group without exception.

Btw, Freemind is the current President there, in case anyone wondering, who is this user! Unfortunately there were some other comments regarding this but I'm not able to find them atm.

[Fuso.hp]

Please stop attacking this forum from a personal perspective. What do you mean by posting about the application process in this forum?
If you are judging the application style of a forum, then highlight the application style of all members. Your personal attacks are obvious here and you should refrain from unnecessarily bringing up such baseless evidence.

Smart criminal!   don't worry your sponsors will defend your criminals lifestyle just like the first comment.

As soon as I started talking about a cheater, the cheater's semen appeared. If you have the courage, post it here on your main account.

Fuso.hp your above comments still is an evidence, I quote your LDL account and you replied me with your Fuso.hp, your brain is skipping how do you manage all this accounts with massive merit's on all of them, you must have one other alts that is a merit's source.

I told you to bring your main account, your teacher mentioned ten class accounts here, I have an account there, so how do I reply here, do you have to learn this from me?