GPUs and FPGAs replace ASICs was Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[raskul]

if i load up manic miner on my speccy 48k will i mine 3 btc per day?

[vesperwillow]

My calculator watch from the 80's gets 500k on scryptN, I don't see why not.

[raskul]

found one!

[Biomech]

Yes, my English is not the best and your math competence zero. Let me write this slowly because I know that you cannot read fast.
Calculating a hash takes <1s, due to a special condition it is a bit more complicated with Bitcoins. They way they do it today is Brute Force. ASICs are perfect for this.
Expensive in developing, very cheap in producing. But you cannot do anything else with them. Once they do not use Brute Force anymore, they are dead and GPUs are much faster,
because general purpose. Got it ?

Conan

even 10 years down the line, your gpu is not going to hash as much as an usb powered ASIC.

bitcoin ASICs are useless for anything other than hashing, but GPUs are now useless with bitcoin mining. world will never ever mine with GPUs again..

Yes, there was also a time when people believed the world is flat. World will use GPUs again, because they are much faster. Maybe you should leave the current
orthodoxy about the world is flat. And in 10 years down the line, ASICs for hashing are dead, I would say already after summer, but this is just a rough estimation.

Conan

ok. Since you are obviously getting a word wrong, you can't mean faster we know that...no GPU can hash as fast an ASIC when mining bitcoins. GPUs can do other things, like mining other coins, playing games, and being sold on Ebay for those purposes. Do you mean better and not faster?

Let's test your confident but fucked up statement. Post the GPU that can beat a KNC mercury. One board.
We'll all check and then we'll know what to say when we call the doctor to collect you.

Hell, I'll make it easier. Show me the GPU that can beat my AMT/Technobit HEX16B. Avgs 42 GH/s. I will bet  500,000 EAC that you can't come close. And no, Scrypt and Keccak don't count, even though I'd still win.

Edit: typo.

[Mighty_Conan]

Yes, there was also a time when people believed the world is flat. World will use GPUs again, because they are much faster. Maybe you should leave the current
orthodoxy about the world is flat. And in 10 years down the line, ASICs for hashing are dead, I would say already after summer, but this is just a rough estimation.

Conan

You haven't explained how ASICs will be dead after summer, or even why?

here comes the punchline;

"Pre-Order the 'Mighty Conan' 100TH/s of pure water-fuelled hawaiian hashpower - all you need is 300 hamsters to run the waterwheels and a dynamo."

Thats the problem, people always make jokes about things they do not understand to show their own ignorance.

Did anybody ever got the idea that there might be a math solution you are not aware of. A new transferfunction of Hashes and I am sure that people do not tell you
so you must buy all this ASIC scrap (totally overpriced) ? You always talk about how to speed up the calculation via ASICs. What about speeding up via mathematics ? A flexible math transfer function cannot be put in ASICs. So back to I7 and GPU. I am pretty sure that will be faster as 100TH/s with water cooling.
Remember WEP encryption, once the ultimate security solution, today it is cracked under 3 minutes due to math, not increasing the calculation power.

No need to reply, I will not follow this threat.

regards
Conan

[raskul]

just give us the link to your scam website and be done with it.

(I think i already seen it - forgotten about in under 3 seconds.)

[vesperwillow]

WEP is cracked easily because of its lower mathematical crackability, not because of new math.

WPA/2 can be cracked in under 30 minutes for similar reasons, but mainly because they found new ways to extract a good portion of the key as its in the air, putting them ahead of the game. With part of the solution in your hand, of course that helps.

More hashpower speeds things up for both. It's real easy to say "oh yeah I wont follow this thread" because you have no response. You were asked, and had nothing.

"new math" really?

[Biomech]

WEP is cracked easily because of its lower mathematical crackability, not because of new math.

WPA/2 can be cracked in under 30 minutes for similar reasons, but mainly because they found new ways to extract a good portion of the key as its in the air, putting them ahead of the game. With part of the solution in your hand, of course that helps.

More hashpower speeds things up for both. It's real easy to say "oh yeah I wont follow this thread" because you have no response. You were asked, and had nothing.

"new math" really?

Sounds like "Washington Math" to me. 1+1=<insert current FED bullshit>

His argument might have made sense if the base of the whole thing wasn't already a mathematical equation. Or if he'd been lucid.