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March 23, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
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Not looking for the jumper trick to keep a standalone PS running.
What I'm looking for is to keep a Power supply running on a miner, while the PC which is also running off the same power supply, is shut down.
I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Any ideas?
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notlist3d
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March 23, 2015, 04:15:07 AM |
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Not looking for the jumper trick to keep a standalone PS running.
What I'm looking for is to keep a Power supply running on a miner, while the PC which is also running off the same power supply is shut down.
I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Any ideas?
I don't see any way of getting around this. You could cant really do the jumper trick since the PC needs the motherboard plug. I think only way is to keep PC on at full times to. Also what miner are you trying to power? |
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March 23, 2015, 04:16:04 AM |
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Not looking for the jumper trick to keep a standalone PS running.
What I'm looking for is to keep a Power supply running on a miner, while the PC which is also running off the same power supply is shut down.
I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Any ideas?
I really do not see a possible way for that to work. The second you jumper the attached PSU it would fire up the pc, and when you kill the pc it stops the miner. Just get a cheap 2nd PSU is your only option. |
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March 23, 2015, 04:32:04 AM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
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thedreamer (OP)
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March 23, 2015, 05:17:06 AM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time.  |
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March 23, 2015, 09:10:25 AM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. Why would you shut down a PC anyway? Just put it on standby or low power mode. PSU should still provide some juice to keep a miner going. |
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March 23, 2015, 10:29:56 AM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. What miner are you trying to power with it? |
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March 23, 2015, 11:19:12 AM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. well you kinda said it, because you want if off when the miner is on, which mean that the psu should be on for the miner and off for the pc...and it doesn't make sense at all just buy another psu if you don't want to run the pc all the time, or try sleep mode/stanby |
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March 23, 2015, 01:27:46 PM |
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what's wrong with the PC staying on 24/7?
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March 23, 2015, 01:47:12 PM |
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I don't like leaving a PC on 24/7 when not necessary. Being in the IT/Tech field I know better than that.  Also saves on electricity.  Now onto my original question : Not looking for the jumper trick to keep a standalone PS running.
What I'm looking for is to keep a Power supply running on a miner, while the PC which is also running off the same power supply, is shut down.
I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Any ideas?Not getting into a comprehension contest here, but where do I say I want the power supply to be on and off at the same time? If you read carefully, you'd notice I said to keep the PS <ON>, even though the PC which is running off the same power supply is <OFF>. Never saying anywhere I want the power supply to be ON and OFF at the same time. Now please, unless you have an idea or way to do this, move on. This was a question about finding a possible solution to my needs, not about why I want to do it. Thank you. |
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March 23, 2015, 01:50:31 PM |
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I don't like leaving a PC on 24/7 when not necessary. Being in the IT/Tech field I know better than that. Also saves on electricity. Now onto my original question : Not looking for the jumper trick to keep a standalone PS running.
What I'm looking for is to keep a Power supply running on a miner, while the PC which is also running off the same power supply, is shut down.
I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Any ideas?Not getting into a comprehension contest here, but where do I say I want the power supply to be on and off at the same time? If you read carefully, you'd notice I said to keep the PS <ON>, even though the PC which is running off the same power supply is <OFF>. Never saying anywhere I want the power supply to be ON and OFF at the same time. Now please, unless you have an idea or way to do this, move on. This was a question about finding a possible solution to my needs, not about why I want to do it. Thank you. Sorry but your second question and the rest of your post turn what you have written into an oxymoron. |
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March 23, 2015, 02:01:14 PM |
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Sorry but your second question and the rest of your post turn what you have written into an oxymoron.
Well, then please explain. |
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March 23, 2015, 02:51:31 PM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Thats exactly what you said. If the Power supply is on, it means the PC turned it on via the 24pin cable. when you shut down a PC, it turns off the PSU via the 24pin cable. You need to buy a second power supply if you realllllllyyyyy want to do it your way - youll need to cut every single wire that runs to the PC and put independent switches on all of them. otherwise, even if you turn on the powersupply with a jumper - power would be fed to your PC and it would turn on. FACTS: 1) PSU on = power in the wires 2) power in the wires to your PC = PC ON 3) PC shutdown signal = PSU shutdown signal |
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March 23, 2015, 02:55:19 PM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Thats exactly what you said. If the Power supply is on, it means the PC turned it on via the 24pin cable. when you shut down a PC, it turns off the PSU via the 24pin cable. You need to buy a second power supply Hence the question. How to go around that. I didn't say I want the power supply off. I said WHEN THE PC IS OFF, how to keep the powersupply still on.....  |
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March 23, 2015, 02:56:35 PM |
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if you realllllllyyyyy want to do it your way - youll need to cut every single wire that runs to the PC and put independent switches on all of them. otherwise, even if you turn on the powersupply with a jumper - power would be fed to your PC and it would turn on.
FACTS: 1) PSU on = power in the wires 2) power in the wires to your PC = PC ON 3) PC shutdown signal = PSU shutdown signal
spend the $60 on a new power supply - you cant do what you are asking without serious hardware modification and cutting up wires on your PSU.
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March 23, 2015, 03:27:03 PM |
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If you can find a picoPSU-type board that switches 12V and provides enough current on all rails, you can lock your PSU on externally and run both your miners and computers just off its 12V rail.
Note that this is very similar to just buying another PSU, and not as cost-effective.
I'm not sure there's a way to convince a computer to stop running while it still has power applied. You could look into different standby levels in your OS and see what's possible.
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March 23, 2015, 05:34:46 PM |
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You cannot have a psu that is both on and off at the same time, you're asking something that doesn't make sense.
LOL. Never said I want it to be on and off at the same time. I want to power a PC and miner from the same PS, but if the PC is shut down, I need the PS to be on for the miner to still run.
Thats exactly what you said. If the Power supply is on, it means the PC turned it on via the 24pin cable. when you shut down a PC, it turns off the PSU via the 24pin cable. You need to buy a second power supply Hence the question. How to go around that. I didn't say I want the power supply off. I said WHEN THE PC IS OFF, how to keep the powersupply still on..... You cannot do what you want to do. Everyone has tried to explain it to you several times. It is phycially impossible. Use two power supplies. |
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March 23, 2015, 06:07:37 PM |
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Guess I'll have to look into automatic power on after shutdown, or trick the system to turn on after it's shut off.
Kind of like sometimes I have stupid clients that always shut down a remote access PC/System and I want to make sure the PC always come back on after a shutdown and doesn't stay turned off.
Oh well.
Thanks anyways. I'll try to do it through the OS/BIoS instead.
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March 23, 2015, 06:46:25 PM |
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Sadly your asking to much out of a PSU. With design on PSU the motherboard power cord will be sending power to computer if psu is on. I just don't see a way of making it work.
What type of miner are you trying to do this with?
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March 24, 2015, 03:38:28 AM |
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it is an interesting question and it can be done but cost is too high.
you need a lot of kill switches triggered when the pc off button is pushed.
And after all power to the mobo is isolated
the psu has to have a 24 pin y cable and 1 part of the y is always shorted on via paperclip.
so the mobo has 24 pin kill switch
a cpu cable kill switch
a hdd/ssd kill switch
a cd/dvd kill switch
oh a gpu kill switch
so 5 cables need kill switches
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