USA to be dismantled by internal & external threats

[wearefucked]

"God" help us if the conspiracy of a new world order (which elder Bush spoke of to the entire nation) is true.

Any way, we individuals need to think about how survive and prosper.

Again computer science technology is what I know. Also I know how wipe my ass with dirt and leaves and dig up root crops to survive. I just hope I can leverage the former skill and not the latter in our future.

Good luck to all readers, their families, children, and love ones. I pray the conspiracy theories are false.

[Shattered]

I was on the fence while reading the first page of this thread....then i read some more..and then i read the rest.
Now im certain that this is my new favorite thread on bitcointalk. 

Nugget after nugget of pure reading gold.
I look forward to seeing what the future pages will bring.

"Eyes get opened one eyelash at a time".

[Bit_Happy]

USA to be dismantled by internal & external threats
The deadline for the disaster was supposed to be shortly after the 2008 election, then 2012, now it's after 2016?
At least we got to enjoy some extra time...

[Beliathon]

"God" help us if the conspiracy of a new world order (which elder Bush spoke of to the entire nation) is true.

Where we're going, fairy tales aren't going to be able to help us.

USA to be dismantled by internal & external threats
The deadline for the disaster was supposed to be shortly after the 2008 election, then 2012, now it's after 2016?
At least we got to enjoy some extra time...

It all seems vaguely religious, doesn't it?

[Bit_Happy]

"God" help us if the conspiracy of a new world order (which elder Bush spoke of to the entire nation) is true.

Where we're going, fairy tales aren't going to be able to help us.

USA to be dismantled by internal & external threats
The deadline for the disaster was supposed to be shortly after the 2008 election, then 2012, now it's after 2016?
At least we got to enjoy some extra time...

It all seems vaguely religious, doesn't it?

Maybe the true believers can be convinced the world already ended, over 2 years ago?

[wearefucked]

Is a starvation EMP attack on the USA required for the "Club" to maintain control?

> Keep in mind, TPTB value control above all else, as was strongly confirmed
> by Aaron Russo.  An EMP would be too risky, they might lose control of the
> situation, and, more importantly, such an attack would be highly
> disruptive to the technocratic system they are building - in a number of
> ways you can well imagine.

Why did the elite build impenetrable bunkers in USA such as the Cheyenne Mountain Complex which are certified to be able sustain an EMP attack?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/02/usa.matthewengel1

Do you have a confirmation bias because of where you reside?

TPTB need to wipe out the independent minded gun owners in the USA. They need an excuse to do so. We can see with the Bundy Ranch incident that the BLM was defeated in public opinion because they could not slaughter the 100s of women and children who joined ranks with their husbands and fathers.

In order to get the public to support a massive culling of the human population, they always need an extreme situation (e.g. Nazi Germany). The deprivation of an EMP attack would cause the public-at-large in the cities to cry out for protection from the UN blue hats that Kissinger promised would be on U.S. soil one day, because the domestic forces would AWOL (to scavenge for food) as they did at Katrina. Kissinger likely wants his goal to be achieved before he dies.

The infrastructure in the USA is outdated. An efficient way to get full coverage of Smartgrid and smart meters is to have to replace everything with the patriots exterminated and Chinese doing the work and policing. Perhaps a good use for the excess Chinese males since there will be a high body count to mop up the guns under every blade of grass in the U.S.A..

The goal of turning the rural areas of the USA into war zones has to effect of making them uninhabitable for all except a battle of attrition with the gun toting patriots.

Third party activity will rise significantly by 2016 and beyond and a big threat to the control of the elite is that rise of gun toting local governance and communities in the USA. The Bundy Ranch incident was an initial flashpoint.

The USA is headed for a breakup (breakaway from WA D.C. which is a dictatorship in disguise and can't be taken back with a vote), and so for the elite to retain control they need a means by which to make gun toting local governance and communities dysfunctional. The only way of killing the Yankee "can do" attitude is war. The elite have known this and have planned for this. Study their actions and the various documents such as DHS's classification of patriots as terrorists.

The hard-core patriots have stockpiled and prepared for war. Some of them will be prepared to survive an EMP attack. So these ones have to be mopped up with fighting; no other way around it. Otherwise they will continue to home school their kids and continue to be a resistance movement to the elite new world order. There is no way Kissinger will allow that without a counter strategy. He is too smart.

TPTB are going for broke. Don't be so comfy in your confirmation bias. We are headed into a tempest of epic proportions. You've been warned. Continue on enjoying your life oblivious to threat if you wish.

[BADecker]

At what point does expressing massive amounts of information that you can't do anything about, become fear in the hearts of the people so that the people are demoralized?

If the enemy without and within was ready, they would have struck. They wouldn't have waited. What they have is a shell. The shell is the fact that as they prepare against us, we find out and prepare against them. They are helped because there are so many people who go into panic mode from the information in their shell. Much of what the enemy has is propaganda that causes fear.

Do you want to do something about the enemy? Keep on using and spreading Bitcoin. When they come after you for not paying the appropriate tax, use the freedom you have to conquer them.

The 9th Amendment =

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

We set up the government. We are above it. The government didn't exist before we set it up. We lose nothing by setting it up. Taxes are not a legal requirement except if we volunteer.

The 10th Amendment =

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

It is the same for the States. And it is confirmation for the people. There is no place in the Constitution where you or I or any other man or woman has turned over authority of ourselves and our property to the government. The government gets its authority from our voluntary giving of it to them.

The 7th Amendment =

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

There are certain principles of law that cannot be denied.

If you are accused by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA for violating a tax law, in court first ask if the case can be appealed. If they tell you that it can, require them to try you in a court of common law where there will be a jury trial and the decision can't be overturned, as the 7th Amendment states.

The plaintiff must appear. Since you are standing as a man or woman, present, without representation, without representing yourself, a man or woman MUST come against you. A man or woman plaintiff must come against you. Since THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is not a man or woman, it can't appear. You win. Sue it for false claim. Sue it for all your back taxes paid.

See how to do it.
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."


Start now, while you can with your studies. It is very simple, so simple that it is difficult, winning against government. Get rid of your former thinking, and learn how to stand as a human being and win.

If we take away their ability to tax, they fail.

[wearefucked]

If we take away their ability to tax, they fail.

Indeed the only potential solution is technological as I have always said since 2013 on this forum. And Bitcoin is not currently anonymous.

The elite laugh at all the other noise about legal tax resistance you wrote (for a reality check go visit Peter Schiff's dad in prison or listen to what the former IRS tax commissioner told Aaron Russo in Yiddish on camera). They love to see the pigs squeal in vain before they are harvested. The elite are preparing for all forms of resistance and they can't do everything instantly, but they are preparing for the right time to implement their objectives.

Westerners have not experienced war. An EMP attack won't be propaganda. It will be real survival instincts taking over. Even you might be glad when the Chinese arrive to restore order and feed you. Especially after they have turned the uncontrolled area farms into uninhabitable war zones, as they righteously attempt to restore order (imagine foraging gangs stealing food and raping people in these areas and thus U.N. forces will demand to confiscate all guns which of course the patriots will resist). The public in the cities will support the U.N. forces and the restoration of order under a temporary martial law which requires guns be "temporarily" confiscated. Katrina was a dry run test, and they did "temporarily" confiscate guns.

U.N. Agenda 21

http://thetruthwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Agenda-21-Map-450x327.jpg

[galdur]

What´s the "surplus" male population of China again after years and years of one-child policy? Certainly a few dozens of millions of young men that will need wives outside of China´s borders. What to do ? Invade neighbors ? Be "invited" here and there ? Good luck, g

Even you might be glad when the Chinese arrive to restore order and feed you. Especially after they have turned the uncontrolled area farms into inhabitable war zones, as they righteously attempt to restore order (imagine foraging gangs stealing food and raping people in these areas and thus U.N. forces will demand to confiscate all guns which of course the patriots will resist). The public in the cities will support the U.N. forces and the restoration of order under a temporary martial law which requires guns be "temporarily" confiscated. Katrina was a dry run test, and they did "temporarily" confiscate guns.

[wearefucked]

Is it not understandable why the elite view the masses as dumb-as-shit cows?

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/27/democrat-claims-global-warming-will-turn-women-into-prostitutes/

Democrat Claims Global Warming Will Turn Women into Prostitutes

You really could not make this up for nobody would believe such an argument. But California Democrat Barbara Lee this week introduced a proposed a resolution in the House of Representatives which amazingly claims women will eventually be forced into prostitution in order to obtain life-sustaining food and water for their families because of Global Warming. So why does she fly or drive a car? She should walk barefoot from California to Washington. When she gets there, then immediately turn around. By the time she get back, her two years will be finish and look how many trees she will save from all the wasted paper.

If the American women will experience prostitution to eat, it won't be due to the lie of global warming rather the ignorance, apathy, selfishness, and arrogance.

[BADecker]

If we take away their ability to tax, they fail.

Indeed the only potential solution is technological as I have always said since 2013 on this forum. And Bitcoin is not currently anonymous.

The elite laugh at all the other noise about legal tax resistance you wrote (for a reality check go visit Peter Schiff's dad in prison or listen to what the former IRS tax commissioner told Aaron Russo in Yiddish on camera). They love to see the pigs squeal in vain before they are harvested. The elite are preparing for all forms of resistance and they can't do everything instantly, but they are preparing for the right time to implement their objectives.

Westerners have not experienced war. An EMP attack won't be propaganda. It will be real survival instincts taking over. Even you might be glad when the Chinese arrive to restore order and feed you. Especially after they have turned the uncontrolled area farms into uninhabitable war zones, as they righteously attempt to restore order (imagine foraging gangs stealing food and raping people in these areas and thus U.N. forces will demand to confiscate all guns which of course the patriots will resist). The public in the cities will support the U.N. forces and the restoration of order under a temporary martial law which requires guns be "temporarily" confiscated. Katrina was a dry run test, and they did "temporarily" confiscate guns.

U.N. Agenda 21

It's one thing to warn people, even with details. But it is entirely wrong to scare them so badly that they panic or freeze, thereby becoming prey for the enemy.

We're all probably going to die. So far, there doesn't seem to be any way out of it. So, let's fight. When it comes down to it, a whole lot of us will fight. All this talk about "we.are.fucked" is crap designed to scare us into submission.

Whose side are you on?

[wearefucked]

Someone I am corresponding with in email believes an EMP attack would be too risky because it might motivate people to wake up or work together. The powers-that-be prefer the less risky slow-grind into a global Technocracy.

This assumes patriots don't become too strong.

For example, let's say an anonymous crypto-currency becomes a reality and hordes of Americans become emboldened to opt-out of the tax system and the dollar.

If this starts to spread and the powers-that-be are unable to contain it with traditional control methods (and that is a big "if" because there are technological vulnerabilities that would need to be addressed such Sybil attacks on anonymity networks such as Tor), they would resort to riskier methods in order to attempt to regain control.

Shutting off the internet would not be popular. However an EMP attack would justify such a result.

So while I agree an EMP attack is not a first option, it could become a necessity for the powers-that-be.

Indeed it all hinges on an anonymous protocol which destroys their (e.g. NSA surveillance) advantage and behooves them to take away that protocol by destroying the infrastructure.

I see no other way for the patriots to gain critical mass of organization and defense against divide-and-conquer.


BADecker, those who are easiily frightened aren't capable of availing of the solution, so it is pointless and unproductive for me to cater to them. I hope to be one of those programmers working on the solution and unfortunately as I wrote above the solution will cause the powers-that-be to take more extreme actions.

It is time for the real men to stand up and not be afraid. I hope I can count on you BADecker as being one them.

[BADecker]

Someone I am corresponding with in email believes an EMP attack would be too risky because it might motivate people to wake up or work together. The powers-that-be prefer the less risky slow-grind into a global Technocracy.

This assumes patriots don't become too strong.

For example, let's say an anonymous crypto-currency becomes a reality and hordes of Americans become emboldened to opt-out of the tax system and the dollar.

If this starts to spread and the powers-that-be are unable to contain it with traditional control methods (and that is a big "if" because there are technological vulnerabilities that would need to be addressed such Sybil attacks on anonymity networks such as Tor), they would resort to riskier methods in order to attempt to regain control.

Shutting off the internet would not be popular. However an EMP attack would justify such a result.

So while I agree an EMP attack is not a first option, it could become a necessity for the powers-that-be.

Indeed it all hinges on an anonymous protocol which destroys their (e.g. NSA surveillance) advantage and behooves them to take away that protocol by destroying the infrastructure.

I see no other way for the patriots to gain critical mass of organization and defense against divide-and-conquer.


BADecker, those who are easiily frightened aren't capable of availing of the solution, so it is pointless and unproductive for me to cater to them. I hope to be one of those programmers working on the solution and unfortunately as I wrote above the solution will cause the powers-that-be to take more extreme actions.

It is time for the real men to stand up and not be afraid. I hope I can count on you BADecker as being one them.

Yes and no. Yes, if I can see that it is an attack rather than simply the order of organized government.

[vvv8]

I've read through this whole thread. While I take the things the OP says to mind, i don't personally want to state anything that I don't feel in my gut to be true.


What I do feel, is that the coming crisis will be intertwined with the collapse of the dollar as the reserve currency. They know that when the economy falters, there will be chaos. Because people have been dumbed down, because most people these days don't care about what is REALLY happening, these are the kind of people that will be part of the chaos, because their whole fantasy world comes crashing down to the swift reality that they are now broke, without shelter, food and without future.

There are a few things that I do recognize with the MSM. Usually, when they start heavily repeating the same rhetoric over and over, they're trying to put an idea into your head. The global economy has been under the spotlight for a while now. People are openly talking about how things are becoming progressively worse. To me this is a sign that the global financial economy is going to change. Whether or not bitcoin is apart of this, time will tell, because there are those that are pro bitcoin, and those that wish its death. From a technological standpoint, I don't see bitcoin disappearing anytime soon.

It is also very true that American military has become wary of its own leadership. This is a huge problem on its own, and very well might be the reason for the militarized police,  FEMA, UN, and/or foreign "peacekeepers".

I also see an EMP attack as something plausible, because an EMP is a different type of warfare as compared to traditional weapons, like big guns or bombs. It's a way to control populations without directly killing anybody. Somebody could launch an EMP, and nobody would know where or who made the order.

Something big is happening behind the curtains

[wearefucked]

BADecker, is there any doubt which side I am on?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg10924880#msg10924880

vvv8, Bitcoin plays an important role but remember it isn't really anonymous and it is controlled by about 1 - 4 mining pools, and thus it is easily taken over and expropriated by the powers-that-be (regulating the mining can control all the coins, regardless that they won't have the private keys). Thus better technology must come. Bitcoin will still be important as a reserve currency of the altcoins, with the most market mass and penetration.

[vvv8]

BADecker, is there any doubt which side I am on?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg10924880#msg10924880

vvv8, Bitcoin plays an important role but remember it isn't really anonymous and it is controlled by about 1 - 4 mining pools, and thus it is easily taken over and expropriated by the powers-that-be (regulating the mining can control all the coins, regardless that they won't have the private keys). Thus better technology must come. Bitcoin will still be important as a reserve currency of the altcoins, with the most market mass and penetration.

I realized a while back that mining is essentially the same thing as printing dollar bills, except it's the digital equivalent. I'm very well aware that controlling a larger amount of the mining nodes would allow an entity to have control over bitcoin.

The best, most powerful technology will always be available to the people with the biggest pockets. I always thought to myself, if TPTB wanted to start controlling bitcoin, all they gotta do is set up mega mining farms, like the ones currently operating in China that we've seen pictures about, except with better technology that is not available to the public, through their own R&D. Then again, I never really believed the Satoshi fairytale, I knew that bitcoin was something with much more importance than people were making it out to be.

[wearefucked]

In Bitcoin, mining controls transactions. Transactions don't happen without mining.

That is one of the first flaws I would fix.

Mining can't be decentralized because there is always a variance cost to not joining a pool with double-digit hashrate share. From that size, it is easy for the economics to drive it towards oligarchies of a few pools in control.

[BADecker]

BADecker, is there any doubt which side I am on?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg10924880#msg10924880

vvv8, Bitcoin plays an important role but remember it isn't really anonymous and it is controlled by about 1 - 4 mining pools, and thus it is easily taken over and expropriated by the powers-that-be (regulating the mining can control all the coins, regardless that they won't have the private keys). Thus better technology must come. Bitcoin will still be important as a reserve currency of the altcoins, with the most market mass and penetration.

I don't know what side you are on. We need the info you are expressing. However, remember Tokyo Rose in WWII? She sounded so sweet and loving. But we all know whose side she was on, or we can look it up.

There are fear mongers all over the place - Alex Jones, Dave Hodges, L. Niel Smith, Lew Rockwell, Freedom's Phoenix, loads more. Who is showing the practical answers? Are we supposed to know the answers - the ways we can fight - just off the top of our heads? Let some of the fear mongers show the answers as well.

Freedom's Phoenix often shows some answers, and other times shows tons of ideas that could be turned into answers. And, of course, there is Bitcoin.

[wearefucked]

BADecker Maidsafe is total bullshit. I explained the technical reasons in my past posts. I am not going to go dig up my old posts. It was one of my prior usernames.

Ah I will be telling and providing you the solutions, but you won't know it is me (or at least you won't be able to prove it is me). Can't you imagine why it must be that way? Duh.

The personality or identity of the person isn't important. Satoshi proved that. It is the solutions they bring that matter.

Unfortunately most all of you are incapable of analyzing the technical aspects, e.g. you think MaidSafe is a solution because you are incapable of analyzing the flaws that render it entirely useless (for the applications you are imagining). MaidSafe can work only for private storage of individual files with infrequent access (because its monetization unit is storage space not bandwidth) and not for anonymization of websites nor the public internet-at-large. And its anonymization claims are technical nonsense. It can make files unrecoverable by those who don't have the private key, but can't successfully make the user anonymous from the NSA.

[wearefucked]

The EMP outcome looks more probable from my perspective of the evolution of the order-of-things:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg10929929#msg10929929