Saudi Arabia attack Yemen

[NUFCrichard]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-25/another-middle-east-war-breaks-out-saudi-arabia-begins-bombing-yemen

Another middle eastern proxy war has broken out.  I don't see it being a major one, but it is another domino that could topple starting off a major war between the new powers and the old.

[Hamuki]

Its was with coalition forces..
I dont see it as an act of war, its an act of deffense.

It wasnt a strike on Yemen Civilians or officials.
It was an attack on terrorists.

[NUFCrichard]

Its was with coalition forces..
I dont see it as an act of war, its an act of deffense.

It wasnt a strike on Yemen Civilians or officials.
It was an attack on terrorists.

Well that isn't the away the press are reporting it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32061632

That is as mainstream as it gets and the headline of "Saudi Arabia launches air strikes in Yemen" is pretty clear.
Did they attack Saudi, or is it pre-emtive defence?  A pre-emtive defence is an attack in my opinion.

[tonygal]

But it's not an attack on Yemen (as the topic title suggests).
The terrorists or fighters or whatever are not endorsed by
the Yemenite government..

[NUFCrichard]

But it's not an attack on Yemen (as the topic title suggests).
The terrorists or fighters or whatever are not endorsed by
the Yemenite government..

They have entered the territory of Yemen.  It feels a bit pedantic to quarrel about if they have attacked or are invading, or attacking groups inside Yemen.

Anyway that wasn't really the intent of my post.  I thought it would be interesting to have a thread about the situation regarding Saudi Arabia and forces in Yemen being involved in military operations, with updates from different sources, as things can change quickly. Is that more acceptable?

[galdur]

Since the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the 2011 “Arab Spring,” every regime that the United States has supported in Iraq, Yemen and Libya — including Saleh’s — has resulted in a failed state, with no rule of law and a collapsed economy.

The reportedly hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of U.S. weapons, equipment and supplies falling into enemy hands in Iraq, Syria and now in Yemen are more than just signs of strategic failure. Rather, they’re part of a long list of recent embarrassments, including the poor performance of U.S.-trained Iraqi military personnel when Islamic State invaded Mosul last summer, and the Islamic militant army’s confiscation of U.S. military weapons and supplies in the Iraqi territories it has occupied.

Millions in U.S. military equipment lost as Yemen heads down Syria’s path

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/03/24/millions-in-u-s-military-equipment-lost-as-yemen-heads-down-syrias-path/

[bryant.coleman]

Probably they are testing their armed forces before the invasion of Iran starts. Despite its enormous defense budget, the Saudi Armed Forces are much weaker than that of Iran, and they have very little real battle experience.

[jaysabi]

But it's not an attack on Yemen (as the topic title suggests).
The terrorists or fighters or whatever are not endorsed by
the Yemenite government..

They have entered the territory of Yemen.  It feels a bit pedantic to quarrel about if they have attacked or are invading, or attacking groups inside Yemen.

Anyway that wasn't really the intent of my post.  I thought it would be interesting to have a thread about the situation regarding Saudi Arabia and forces in Yemen being involved in military operations, with updates from different sources, as things can change quickly. Is that more acceptable?

From what I understand about this, which isn't much atm, there is significance in the fact that it's another Sunni-Shiite conflict, which is why Iran is protesting the attack. Is that fair? I don't understand the tensions between the two groups, other than there is a long history of abuses by each side against the other that is still prevalent in situations like this.

[chopstick]

The US puppet government in Yemen has fallen to a popular revolt, and of course now Saudi Arabia has to intervene (who are backed by the US)

I don't understand much more than that, someone please explain this conflict in layman's terms.

[galdur]

The US puppet government in Yemen has fallen to a popular revolt, and of course now Saudi Arabia has to intervene (who are backed by the US)

I don't understand much more than that, someone please explain this conflict in layman's terms.

And of course as always and everywhere those who oppose the crap that U.S. installs here and there are designated as terrorists. Easy and simple black and white advertising labels for the public. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

[bryant.coleman]

And of course as always and everywhere those who oppose the crap that U.S. installs here and there are designated as terrorists. Easy and simple black and white advertising labels for the public. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

Can't wait for Billary to become POTUS in 2016. Within 2-3 years, 90% of the world nations will be having US puppets as their heads of state.

[Balthazar]

And of course as always and everywhere those who oppose the crap that U.S. installs here and there are designated as terrorists. Easy and simple black and white advertising labels for the public. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

Can't wait for Billary to become POTUS in 2016. Within 2-3 years, 90% of the world nations will be having US puppets as their heads of state.

Seems unlikely, something like this seems closer to possible results of her presidency:



Viva Washington People's Republic.

[Chef Ramsay]

Yemen Exploding: Is The Stage Set for the Big War?

Rapid changes are occurring in Yemen. Ever since United States had to leave its military base there, other powers have been lining up to benefit from the chaos. It has been revealed that Saudi Arabia has commenced bombing targets in Yemen. Egypt has announced its support for the Saudi effort. I am quite confident that this support is in compliance with our instructions to our puppet leader now in charge in Egypt. The current president of Yemen, Hadi, a leader who took over after the Arab Spring revolution, has been removed from power. He is said to have escaped to Saudi Arabia, and those who are now in charge in Yemen will most likely kill him if he returns.

Yemen has been instrumental in the US effort to fight al-Qaeda in the region. Unsuccessfully, I might add. The Houthis who have deposed Hadi are said to get their support from Iran and are now likely the strongest political force in the country. But they will not have an easy time of it. Too much is at stake for the United States and Saudi Arabia. We don’t read much about the Saudi Air Force being involved in military conflict, but the seriousness of the situation has prompted them to do exactly that. There are also reports that 150,000 or more troops are massed near the borders of Yemen for a probable invasion. It is assumed that other Arab nations will be involved, along with Egypt. One report said that it appears the country is “sliding toward a civil war.” I would suggest that it’s past sliding toward the civil war, and, rather, is involved deeply in a civil war that is now spreading outside its own borders.

The neoconservatives, I am sure, will blame everything on Iran. And it’s likely Iran may have been involved in giving some type of support to the Shia that now are on the verge of taking over the country. But one must ask, “How does this compare to the support the United States has given to over 100 countries in recent years, with a major portion going to the Middle East?” There’s a big difference between a country becoming involved in a crisis next door and a country getting involved 6000 miles away.

It looks like the former president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, a military dictator who was deposed in the Arab Spring revolution, is now aligned with the Shia Houthis who are supported by Iran. This will not be tolerated by the United States, and we can expect the US to provide indirect military assistance to those who are prepared to invade Yemen and install a US friendly dictator.

...

More...http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/26/yemen-exploding-is-the-stage-set-for-the-big-war/

[galdur]

Who´s writing this clear and concise analysis I thought and then i saw the link at the bottom

[9000]

USA bombs a lot of countries, they are not 'attacking' those countries but some particular groups.

It's no secret Yemen is breeding ground for groups like Al-Qaeda.

[waterpile]

Its war on terrorism not a war against countries.. The days are numbered for 'em ISIS fckers

[Chef Ramsay]

The battle for the Middle East's future begins in Yemen as Saudi Arabia jumps into the abyss

Saudi Arabia has jumped into the abyss.

Its air attacks on Yemen are a historic and potentially fatal blow to the Kingdom and to the Middle East.

Who decided that this extraordinary battle should take shape in the poorest of Arab nations? The Saudis, whose King is widely rumoured in the Arab world to be incapable of taking decisions of state? Or the princes within the Saudi army who fear that their own security forces may not be loyal to the monarchy?

The “story” of Yemen appears simple. Houthi rebels, who are Shia Muslims, have captured the capital of Sanaa with the help – so say the Saudis – of the Iranians. The legitimate President – Abed Rabou Mansour Hadi – has fled to the Saudi capital of Riyadh from his bolthole in the old southern Yemeni capital of Aden. The Saudis will not permit an Iranian proxy state to be set up on their border – always forgetting that they already have an Iranian-proxy state called Iraq on their northern border, courtesy of the 2003 Anglo-American invasion of Iraq. The real “story” is more important. Perhaps half of the Saudi army is of Yemeni tribal origin. Saudi soldiers are intimately – through their own families – involved in Yemen, and the Yemen revolution is a stab in the guts of the Saudi royal family. No wonder King Salman of Saudi Arabia – if he indeed rules his nation – wishes to bring this crisis to an end. But are his bombing raids on Sanaa going to crush a Shia Muslim rebellion?

More...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-battle-for-the-middle-easts-future-begins-in-yemen-as-saudi-arabia-jumps-into-the-abyss-10140145.html

[Chef Ramsay]

SAUDI FAILURE IN YEMEN WILL RESULT IN DIRECT U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTION

The ambassador’s remarks serve as a thinly veiled cover for the real objective for the attack on Yemen — taking control of one of seven strategic world oil shipping chokepoints. The removal of sitting President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi from power by the Houthi militias threatened this control. It also potentially increases Iranian influence in Yemen and the Gulf of Aden and the Strait of Bab el-Mandab where more than 10 percent of the world’s seaborne petroleum passes.

F. William Engdahl explains:
An excuse for a US or NATO militarization of the waters around Bab el-Mandab would give Washington another major link in its pursuit of control of the seven most critical oil chokepoints around the world, a major part of any future US strategy aimed at denying oil flows to China, the EU or any region or country that opposes US policy.

On Thursday the United States confirmed it is supporting Saudi military operations underway in Yemen.

More...http://www.infowars.com/saudi-failure-in-yemen-will-result-in-direct-u-s-military-intervention/

[pattu1]

The implications of this strike are many. Yemen is only the 39th largest producer of crude, but this attack has resulted in oil prices increasing because a significant amount of crude produced passes through this region (Bab el-Mandeb Strait off Yemen)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11498097/Saudi-battle-for-Yemen-exposes-fragility-of-global-oil-supply.html