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August 13, 2012, 10:09:48 PM |
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OK, now it is a shit storm!
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enmaku
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August 13, 2012, 10:10:31 PM |
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Then point me to where, exactly, in the standard client I can generate an M of N address beginning with that prefix.
That is another thing nobody claimed was possible. Tell me exactly where I can find gold for $0.20 per ton. So you're confirming that your previous statements are 1) Prefixes of "3" indicate a multi-sig address 2) Using multi-sig addresses isn't really feasible right now 3) ? ? ? 4) Multi-sig addresses are totally valid despite being unusable...
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DeathAndTaxes
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August 13, 2012, 10:13:47 PM |
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multi-sig address ARE usable right now. You need all the private keys in the same wallet to spend coins sent to a mult-sig address but that doesn't make them unusable. Limited utility true, but not usuable and certainly not "invalid".
Vanity gen doesn't support finding multi-sig addresss but similar software could be written to generate mult-sig addresses matches a prefix by modifying the script and checking the generating address.
Of course even these are tangents.
TL/DR: You "corrected" a statement that the address was valid by informing the person that it was "invalid" then got pissed and took it personally when corrected.
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enmaku
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August 13, 2012, 10:29:08 PM |
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multi-sig address ARE usable right now
As far as 99% of the userbase is concerned, they're not usable until the standard client supports them via the GUI interface. An average Bitcoin user is not going to write a config file, launch the daemon, then use a series of archaic bitcoind commands to craft a super-duper-special transaction that has limited utility in its current implementation anyway - especially not if the sole cause for creating such a transaction is to use a vanity address starting with a "3". As they are currently implemented, multi-sig addresses are NOT usable by the VAST majority of users. TL/DR: You "corrected" a statement that the address was valid by informing the person that it was "invalid" then got pissed and took it personally when corrected.
I corrected a statement by giving a valid assessment of the current implementation of OP_EVAL addresses and got pissed when some asperger's-addled moron decided to give the "correct" version of the facts which, despite being correct in the most technical sense, is still incorrect for practically every Bitcoin user in existence. By continuing to perpetrate this stupidity you are grossly misinforming other users about the current status of OP_EVAL transactions. Was my original reaction a bit over the top? Definitely. My apologies if anyone was offended, I've just reached the limits of how much idiocy I can stand. I think it's time for a vacation from bitcointalk since every time I come here I nearly pop a vessel.
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dree12
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August 13, 2012, 10:32:10 PM |
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multi-sig address ARE usable right now
As far as 99% of the userbase is concerned, they're not usable until the standard client supports them via the GUI interface. An average Bitcoin user is not going to write a config file, launch the daemon, then use a series of archaic bitcoind commands to craft a super-duper-special transaction that has limited utility in its current implementation anyway - especially not if the sole cause for creating such a transaction is to use a vanity address starting with a "3". As they are currently implemented, multi-sig addresses are NOT usable by the VAST majority of users. TL/DR: You "corrected" a statement that the address was valid by informing the person that it was "invalid" then got pissed and took it personally when corrected.
I corrected a statement by giving a valid assessment of the current implementation of OP_EVAL addresses and got pissed when some asperger's-addled moron decided to give the "correct" version of the facts which, despite being correct in the most technical sense, is still incorrect for practically every Bitcoin user in existence. By continuing to perpetrate this stupidity you are grossly misinforming other users about the current status of OP_EVAL transactions. Was my original reaction a bit over the top? Definitely. My apologies if anyone was offended, I've just reached the limits of how much idiocy I can stand. I think it's time for a vacation from bitcointalk since every time I come here I nearly pop a vessel. You're missing the point. OP wanted the firstbits 3GiG for an address (donation one, most likely). The only person who needs to know how to spend those funds is the OP (in fact, the only person who should know how to spend them is the OP). To the general public, the address is a novelty that only needs to be sent to (which Satoshi does support).
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randomguy7
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August 13, 2012, 10:39:07 PM |
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OP, is the fact that the address was used to mine block 44444 somehow important to you? You know, collectors item or something .
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enmaku
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August 13, 2012, 10:41:56 PM |
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I'm leaving now before I ragequit this entire forum.
I'm like 99% sure I'm overreacting at this point, but I've reached the limits of how much idiocy I can take for one day. God I wish every forum had StackExchange-style downvote buttons, wouldn't have to say a damn thing, just click to show my dissent.
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dree12
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August 13, 2012, 10:44:37 PM |
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I'm leaving now before I ragequit this entire forum.
I'm like 99% sure I'm overreacting at this point, but I've reached the limits of how much idiocy I can take for one day. God I wish every forum had StackExchange-style downvote buttons, wouldn't have to say a damn thing, just click to show my dissent.
OP, is the fact that the address was used to mine block 44444 somehow important to you? You know, collectors item or something . I think that's a coincidence.
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BkkCoins
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August 14, 2012, 01:19:57 AM |
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Tried this on vanitygen (oclvanitygen doesn't have a -F option). It seems to be buggy or at least undocumented how to use -F option... miner@miner:~$ vanitygen -F script 1gig WARNING: Built with OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 WARNING: Use OpenSSL 1.0.0d+ for best performance Prefix '1gig' not possible Hint: valid bitcoin script addresses begin with "3"
miner@miner:~$ vanitygen -F script 3gig WARNING: Built with OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 WARNING: Use OpenSSL 1.0.0d+ for best performance Prefix '3gig' not possible Hint: valid bitcoin script addresses begin with "3"
When you use -Fscript it then expects a 3 for first char but doesn't work with that. I'm probably missing something about how to use -F as the only help info is "(pubkey or script)".
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BurtW
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August 14, 2012, 01:54:33 AM |
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Now this is strange. When I tried some things work, some do not:
C:\downloads\www.bitcoin.org>vanitygen -F script 3Biteme
BUT 3Test does not work
BUT 3biteme does NOT work
BUT 3Biteme does work, etc.
Certain things work, others do not
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dree12
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August 14, 2012, 02:12:21 AM |
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Now this is strange. When I tried some things work, some do not:
C:\downloads\www.bitcoin.org>vanitygen -F script 3Biteme
BUT 3Test does not work
BUT 3biteme does NOT work
BUT 3Biteme does work, etc.
Certain things work, others do not
If it "works", the address is unusable. 3-prefixed addresses are hashes of scripts, not public keys. I think your answer is that version "5" only covers the first half of the 3-prefixed address space, with the second half being version "6". I'm not too sure about this, but it seems like that's the problem. 3Biteme is in the version "5" space, while 3Test and 3biteme are in the version "6" space. Nonetheless, none of these addresses will be redeemable. You're hashing pubkeys, not scripts.
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BkkCoins
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August 14, 2012, 02:27:46 AM |
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Ahh, too bad... vanitygen -X 6 -F script 3gig WARNING: Built with OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 WARNING: Use OpenSSL 1.0.0d+ for best performance Difficulty: 78508 Pattern: 3gig P2SHAddress: 3gig5GkYGm2fRupCh9KAdPRLbnPnkPvAfC Address: 3ddDB5j5am69prQBNaVfeH2wvdZHGD9w7Z Privkey: 5WYu7CxrJ9fxriZ5uJ3v1zKqpmituvQ9KqgHsfv5H4VddpJmon6 Tried sending wee little coin to 3gig5GkYGm2fRupCh9KAdPRLbnPnkPvAfC but client field goes red and it won't send.
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dree12
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August 14, 2012, 02:31:19 AM |
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Ahh, too bad... vanitygen -X 6 -F script 3gig WARNING: Built with OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 WARNING: Use OpenSSL 1.0.0d+ for best performance Difficulty: 78508 Pattern: 3gig P2SHAddress: 3gig5GkYGm2fRupCh9KAdPRLbnPnkPvAfC Address: 3ddDB5j5am69prQBNaVfeH2wvdZHGD9w7Z Privkey: 5WYu7CxrJ9fxriZ5uJ3v1zKqpmituvQ9KqgHsfv5H4VddpJmon6 Tried sending wee little coin to 3gig5GkYGm2fRupCh9KAdPRLbnPnkPvAfC but client field goes red and it won't send. I don't think 3gig (lowercase 'g') is in the 5 address space.
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BkkCoins
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August 14, 2012, 02:36:05 AM |
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I don't think 3gig (lowercase 'g') is in the 5 address space.
That's why I tried "-X 6" to use version 6. Not that I know what that means but I was just dick'n around anyway. If I knew more about this maybe I could figure out something.
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dree12
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August 14, 2012, 02:37:20 AM |
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I don't think 3gig (lowercase 'g') is in the 5 address space.
That's why I tried "-X 6" to use version 6. Not that I know what that means but I was just dick'n around anyway. If I knew more about this maybe I could figure out something. The client won't send to a version 6 address, because no bitcoin addresses are version 6.
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BkkCoins
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August 14, 2012, 02:42:19 AM |
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I don't think 3gig (lowercase 'g') is in the 5 address space.
That's why I tried "-X 6" to use version 6. Not that I know what that means but I was just dick'n around anyway. If I knew more about this maybe I could figure out something. The client won't send to a version 6 address, because no bitcoin addresses are version 6. Is that something that may change in future or is version 6 just not ever going to work?
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August 14, 2012, 02:53:46 AM |
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I don't think 3gig (lowercase 'g') is in the 5 address space.
That's why I tried "-X 6" to use version 6. Not that I know what that means but I was just dick'n around anyway. If I knew more about this maybe I could figure out something. The client won't send to a version 6 address, because no bitcoin addresses are version 6. Is that something that may change in future or is version 6 just not ever going to work? I cannot predict the future, however, AFAIK no plans to use it are in place now.
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naima53
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August 14, 2012, 11:55:04 AM |
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DeathAndTaxesWhy not try C:\vanitygen.exe -k -o file.txt 1 . File file.txt per day increased to ~10 gigabytes. Then simply search this text 1GiGKdNCywjPxdXEg6PbPtXWYNZStFoSfr at file.txt ? Or the likelihood is too small? (sorry for the noob question, I do not quite understand) Thank you.
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BkkCoins
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August 14, 2012, 12:06:27 PM |
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DeathAndTaxesWhy not try C:\vanitygen.exe -k -o file.txt 1 . File file.txt per day increased to ~10 gigabytes. Then simply search this text 1GiGKdNCywjPxdXEg6PbPtXWYNZStFoSfr at file.txt ? Or the likelihood is too small? (sorry for the noob question, I do not quite understand) Thank you. The time to write the file to disk and then read the file to match addresses is more than just matching addresses in memory. At least with a GPU it definitely. I guess on a CPU it may keep up. But why create a file full of unwanted addresses? Matching a 7 character prefix takes days... Matching 8 takes years... Matching all 36 takes <---forever---> Bitcoin wouldn't be much good if you could find a key with anything less than all the computing power in the universe... and I'm just being vague on purpose because the numbers are so huge.
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August 14, 2012, 12:47:48 PM |
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DeathAndTaxesWhy not try C:\vanitygen.exe -k -o file.txt 1 . File file.txt per day increased to ~10 gigabytes. Then simply search this text 1GiGKdNCywjPxdXEg6PbPtXWYNZStFoSfr at file.txt ? Or the likelihood is too small? (sorry for the noob question, I do not quite understand) Thank you. The time to write the file to disk and then read the file to match addresses is more than just matching addresses in memory. At least with a GPU it definitely. I guess on a CPU it may keep up. But why create a file full of unwanted addresses? Matching a 7 character prefix takes days... Matching 8 takes years... Matching all 36 takes <---forever---> Bitcoin wouldn't be much good if you could find a key with anything less than all the computing power in the universe... and I'm just being vague on purpose because the numbers are so huge. Well, my stupid head begins to understand. And if you use tables? This will increase the probability of finding a match? 1)1abcdefghjklmnopqr1234567890abcdefg 2)11234567890abcdefgabcdefghjklmnopqr ......50?100?)1efghjklmnopq1abcdefghjklmnopqr12345 C:\vanitygen.exe -k -r -o file.txt 1[a;1;........;g][b;2;........;r]...........[c;3;.......;5] edit^typo fixed
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