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March 28, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
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Is there any altcoin that is building a decentralized discussion forum? something like reddit, but decentralized.

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March 28, 2015, 03:59:22 PM
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Is there any altcoin that is building a decentralized discussion forum? something like reddit, but decentralized.

What exactly do you mean decentralized? Something like a group chat on Bitmessage? I guess it wouldn't be to hard to implement on top of bm. However it could get a little messy without any "central" mods. Or do you mean decentralized just regarding the server?
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March 28, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
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I know CfB (Come-from-Beyond) was interested to create something like that. Maybe contact him, he might know the subject.

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March 28, 2015, 09:48:59 PM
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This is an older project and not related to any coin, but it supports decentralized forums.  I believe moderation is handled by just not relaying posts you downvote, basically.

http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/
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March 28, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Last edit: March 30, 2015, 11:42:17 PM by goosoodude
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Any decentralized forum would be costly, and would require a fee for any post. So the question becomes why is it necessary, and whether that is enough to pay the fee.

There might be small niches where it might be useful, but I expect forums to stay centralized.






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March 28, 2015, 10:30:55 PM
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ANy decentralized forum would be costly, and would require a fee for any post. So the question becomes why is it necessary, and whether that is enough to pay the fee.

There might be small niches where it might be useful, but I expect forums to stay centralized.

I heard CfB thinking about a decentralized forum he was making using some kind of PoW, i dunno if he still working on this idea.

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March 28, 2015, 10:38:40 PM
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It's not a forum but social networking platform but can be used as forum I think;
it's not releated with any coin check diaspora: https://joindiaspora.com/

Also bitcointa.lk was created to decentralize this forum, check details here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0


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March 28, 2015, 10:53:34 PM
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ANy decentralized forum would be costly, and would require a fee for any post. So the question becomes why is it necessary, and whether that is enough to pay the fee.

There might be small niches where it might be useful, but I expect forums to stay centralized.

I heard CfB thinking about a decentralized forum he was making using some kind of PoW, i dunno if he still working on this idea.

Implementing it is not an issue. The problem is the fee associated with every post.






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March 28, 2015, 11:07:45 PM
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ANy decentralized forum would be costly, and would require a fee for any post. So the question becomes why is it necessary, and whether that is enough to pay the fee.

There might be small niches where it might be useful, but I expect forums to stay centralized.

I heard CfB thinking about a decentralized forum he was making using some kind of PoW, i dunno if he still working on this idea.

Implementing it is not an issue. The problem is the fee associated with every post.

 pow act as fee in his idea. idk anymore than that. only read some post he made.

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March 29, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
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pow act as fee in his idea. idk anymore than that. only read some post he made.

Yes, PoW is supposed to be used. But I don't have time on implementation now.
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March 29, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Last edit: March 29, 2015, 03:12:08 PM by kokojie
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ANy decentralized forum would be costly, and would require a fee for any post. So the question becomes why is it necessary, and whether that is enough to pay the fee.

There might be small niches where it might be useful, but I expect forums to stay centralized.

I heard CfB thinking about a decentralized forum he was making using some kind of PoW, i dunno if he still working on this idea.

Implementing it is not an issue. The problem is the fee associated with every post.

I think the fee can be reputation based. It start out very tiny, something like 100 satoshi per post, anyone can afford to make a lot of posts. BUT the quality of your posts (determined by upvote/downvotes) will affect your "reputation", if you have a bad reputation, then the system raises your fee to much higher. Also if you have a good reputation, your fee is reduced, and also you occasionally get paid by the system for making such good posts (using the fees received by the system).

Also I believe there needs to be a registration fee plus annual fee for an account on the system, to prevent spamming accounts. (basically if you don't pay a tiny annual fee, your account is disabled for posting).

So the system will hopefully go into a positive cycle. All these high quality posts will attract people to join the system and pay the fee.

It should also be easy to make "light web clients", so it can function as a regular web forum. The difference is anyone can host it at any domain, and everyone will still be on the same forum.

All fees need to be very tiny like 100 satoshi, but add up if you spam or troll.

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March 30, 2015, 11:45:05 PM
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I think the fee can be reputation based. It start out very tiny, something like 100 satoshi per post, anyone can afford to make a lot of posts. BUT the quality of your posts (determined by upvote/downvotes) will affect your "reputation", if you have a bad reputation, then the system raises your fee to much higher. Also if you have a good reputation, your fee is reduced, and also you occasionally get paid by the system for making such good posts (using the fees received by the system).

It is still avoiding the basic issue, why would anyone pay anything when posting right now is free?

If there is some specific application then it might be useful to a small group, but then they will only trust someone and can set up a centralized server. Decentralized forum sounds good in principle but doesnt make much practical sense.






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March 31, 2015, 12:58:55 AM
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How is this not a request for NNTP?
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March 31, 2015, 08:23:42 PM
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I think the fee can be reputation based. It start out very tiny, something like 100 satoshi per post, anyone can afford to make a lot of posts. BUT the quality of your posts (determined by upvote/downvotes) will affect your "reputation", if you have a bad reputation, then the system raises your fee to much higher. Also if you have a good reputation, your fee is reduced, and also you occasionally get paid by the system for making such good posts (using the fees received by the system).

It is still avoiding the basic issue, why would anyone pay anything when posting right now is free?

If there is some specific application then it might be useful to a small group, but then they will only trust someone and can set up a centralized server. Decentralized forum sounds good in principle but doesnt make much practical sense.

Because as I said in my post, "if you have a good reputation, your fee is reduced, and also you occasionally get paid by the system for making such good posts (using the fees received by the system). "

So even though there is a tiny fee, you could potentially make money if you post high quality posts. I have seen a lot of people will spend their time online doing these type of things, like promotional twitting, or making blog posts, for pennies in pay. This will be something similar.

High quality posts attract more readers/participants, vast majority of people are consumers of high quality posts, so they might be willing to pay a fee to read some posts, it's pretty common for forum posts to have a "forum currency" attached to it, and to view the post, you have to buy it (I have bought and sold these forum currencies previously, for real money). Also many forums, like private trackers, will charge a fee to even register for their forum. This decentralized forum will be perfect for such purpose, it'll avoid any legal enforcement concern over hosting an illegal private tracker forum etc...

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