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August 26, 2012, 10:03:00 PM |
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I'm careful to explain that in several years, one bitcoin will likely be worth a lot of money or nothing at all, and almost certainly not what they are worth today.
Oh no! You didn't fall for the 'all or nothing' fallacy, did you? Discussion on that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99689.0 is not all. |
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It is a common myth that Bitcoin is ruled by a majority of miners. This is not true. Bitcoin miners "vote" on the ordering of transactions, but that's all they do. They can't vote to change the network rules.
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August 27, 2012, 01:27:31 AM |
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I'm careful to explain that in several years, one bitcoin will likely be worth a lot of money or nothing at all, and almost certainly not what they are worth today.
Oh no! You didn't fall for the 'all or nothing' fallacy, did you? Discussion on that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99689.0 is not all. True, I guess we could call it "going big or going bust" fallacy. |
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August 27, 2012, 12:33:51 PM
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There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread. As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below:  These translation texts will appear in the next release (v0.4.8 ) which I am just working on the test and QA now. is available at the multibit.org website. A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort. |
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August 27, 2012, 01:05:49 PM |
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I just spent my evening presenting Bitcoin to about 50 more Japanese business people in Sapporo. (A city in the northern most island)
I also installed the Blockchain and Bitcoinspinner apps on all their smart phones and gave each of them their first 0.05 bitcoin.
I'm sure the majority of them will be buying their own bitcoin soon.
I am also sure that because of the efforts I am involved with in Japan, the Japanese have bought more than 25,000,000 JPY (~$317,000 USD) worth of bitcoins in the last few weeks and that it is just the beginning.
Unfortunately I currently can't provide the exact details as to how I know the exact amount, but I am sure this is just a small fraction of what is to come.
Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity). How do I know? Because I know what I'm responsible for (directly + indirectly) and you've claimed some of it. Moreover, I'm sure this is more than a 2-player market. |
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August 27, 2012, 01:06:09 PM |
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The price is climbing nicely now too, maybe these Japanese early adopters are going to make a lot of money...
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August 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM |
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There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread. As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below: These translation texts will appear in the next release (v0.4.8 ) which I am just working on the test and QA now. A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort. If it was what was done 2 days ago, that was me. I've not found the time since, but I will. |
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August 27, 2012, 01:29:32 PM |
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There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread.
As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below:
A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort.
I've done some but I'd need to be used to the client to do more, as I don't understand the context well enough to be sure. I will give it some more time later in the week if I have the time. |
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August 27, 2012, 01:40:37 PM |
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Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).
Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for:  The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars. Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that) So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th, The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time. This is just the beginning...... |
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August 27, 2012, 01:44:47 PM |
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Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).
Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for: The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars. Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that) So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th, The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time. This is just the beginning...... is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it? |
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August 27, 2012, 01:52:20 PM |
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is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?
Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for. |
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August 27, 2012, 02:02:12 PM |
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is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?
Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for. actually i believed you and thought from the beginning this would be your metric of success. i know you have a close relationship with Mark and this new push in Japan is long overdue and i'm sure Mark will help monitor its success. good job again. |
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August 27, 2012, 02:19:54 PM |
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is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?
Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for. Did you get my message? |
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August 27, 2012, 02:25:26 PM |
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is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?
Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for. So most Japanese people are not opening mt.gox accounts for themselves but going through you (and other people)? Wouldn't it make sense for mtgox to be available in more than one language? |
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August 27, 2012, 02:27:23 PM |
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Did you get my message?
I replied to your very interesting PM several hours ago. I look forward to working with you in regards to it. Feel free to email me directly at any time roger at memorydealers.com |
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August 27, 2012, 02:40:10 PM |
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August 28, 2012, 12:28:21 PM |
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Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).
Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for: The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars. Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that) So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th, The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time. This is just the beginning...... Hmm maybe I misunderstand, but you say the minimum is 100k but everything in your screenshot is less than that? They're only just over 100 USD each. Something is very wrong with the arithmetic. Perhaps divide by ten? And the date is yesterday, not the high volume days cited, and only shows transfers not purchases? Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all. |
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August 28, 2012, 12:37:07 PM |
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Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.
I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct. The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit. If you don't want to believe me that is fine, but I think my past bitcoin reputation speaks for itself. Feel free to google (Roger Ver Bitcoin) and you will find plenty of background. |
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August 29, 2012, 07:39:19 PM |
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Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.
I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct. The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit. Then there's only one way I can see how what you posted makes any sense. And in that case my reactions are a) sheesh, no wonder you're being cagey, and b) posting it at all wasn't a smart move and an error of judgement I hope I'm wrong. |
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August 30, 2012, 03:28:02 AM |
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Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.
I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct. The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit. If you don't want to believe me that is fine, but I think my past bitcoin reputation speaks for itself. Feel free to google (Roger Ver Bitcoin) and you will find plenty of background. Roger Ver is Satoshi so you can believe him  |
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