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April 01, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
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I know this may sound a bit, well "crazy" to some. But basically Bitcoin is decentralized, the human body in a way of sorts, is also decentralized. The brain itself may be compared to mining pools where they allow things to happen according to consensus, so such a system would have to be similar to mining(Maybe not as secure nor "decentralized"-solo mining, and it would need to be in a "loop" or functioning on it's own without need for a external source(mining?), or not, maybe this "external source" would be similar to a biological organism needing food and water to "live").

Has anyone else thought of this, using Bitcoin's blockchain to create a sort of sentient artificial intelligence/body? I'm not talking about a highly advanced robot like in The Terminator/Matrix movies or anything, just something simple or comparable to maybe a small multi celled organism like a rodent.

Maybe the brain could use one, central blockchain, and the other major organs or what ought to represent them, use other lesser blockchains that relay information back and forth, things like colored coins could come into play representing various cells found throughout biological bodies like red/white blood cells etc, mining could rely information back and forth or a process similar. Instead of relaying transactions and inputs/outputs or what forms "coins", maybe a substitute for information such as "thoughts", "emotions"(more specifically the hormones that are responsible for such emotions) could be transacted back and forth instead, there would need to be physical hardware built such as heat sensors, touch, etc for "thoughts" or reactions based upon the "senses" even become feasible, and there'd need to be a way to store memories similar to the cerebrum, hippocampus and other areas responsible for memory in the brain.  Aargh, but that's just the little that I could come up with for the moment.

EDIT: The above talks about hardware based AGI(Artifical General Intelligence), most of that could probably be cut for a software based AGI.

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April 01, 2015, 11:29:15 PM
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Well this is a very clever and interesting thought... sounds really sci-fi too. I think it sounds possible
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April 01, 2015, 11:31:40 PM
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Well this is a very clever and interesting thought... sounds really sci-fi too. I think it sounds possible

I've thought about this generally(Without any specific details on how it could work)for a quite a while but never bothered to "put it out there". Hopefully someone else has also thought of something similar to this and is actually working on it.

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April 02, 2015, 12:19:43 AM
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I just found something a bit similar to this(https://bitcointa.lk/threads/putting-a-person-on-a-block-chain.338246/), though it speaks about the concept of placing human "consciousness" on the blockchain(I think something simpler than a human brain) like a rat's, would be more feasible, if possible at all.

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April 02, 2015, 01:00:23 PM
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I just found something a bit similar to this(https://bitcointa.lk/threads/putting-a-person-on-a-block-chain.338246/), though it speaks about the concept of placing human "consciousness" on the blockchain(I think something simpler than a human brain) like a rat's, would be more feasible, if possible at all.

Nice find, another interesting read... But i also agree, i think a rats brain is much more likely/possible. then maybe with more development we could get to the level of a chimpanzee or something, but i think the human brain would take a long time.  Sad
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April 02, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
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I just found something a bit similar to this(https://bitcointa.lk/threads/putting-a-person-on-a-block-chain.338246/), though it speaks about the concept of placing human "consciousness" on the blockchain(I think something simpler than a human brain) like a rat's, would be more feasible, if possible at all.

Nice find, another interesting read... But i also agree, i think a rats brain is much more likely/possible. then maybe with more development we could get to the level of a chimpanzee or something, but i think the human brain would take a long time.  Sad

We haven't even "decoded" the human brain yet-it has around 100billion neurons. So yea a rat's would be much more plausible atm.

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April 02, 2015, 05:53:31 PM
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I just found something a bit similar to this(https://bitcointa.lk/threads/putting-a-person-on-a-block-chain.338246/), though it speaks about the concept of placing human "consciousness" on the blockchain(I think something simpler than a human brain) like a rat's, would be more feasible, if possible at all.

Nice find, another interesting read... But i also agree, i think a rats brain is much more likely/possible. then maybe with more development we could get to the level of a chimpanzee or something, but i think the human brain would take a long time.  Sad

We haven't even "decoded" the human brain yet-it has around 100billion neurons. So yea a rat's would be much more plausible atm.
I am afraid we can't even emulate really simple brains of rodents this way. They are still too complicated. And I have a question? Why do you want use blockchain for that? Do you really think it is the best to create artificial AI?


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April 02, 2015, 05:57:59 PM
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I just found something a bit similar to this(https://bitcointa.lk/threads/putting-a-person-on-a-block-chain.338246/), though it speaks about the concept of placing human "consciousness" on the blockchain(I think something simpler than a human brain) like a rat's, would be more feasible, if possible at all.

Nice find, another interesting read... But i also agree, i think a rats brain is much more likely/possible. then maybe with more development we could get to the level of a chimpanzee or something, but i think the human brain would take a long time.  Sad

We haven't even "decoded" the human brain yet-it has around 100billion neurons. So yea a rat's would be much more plausible atm.
I am afraid we can't even emulate really simple brains of rodents this way. They are still too complicated. And I have a question? Why do you want use blockchain for that? Do you really think it is the best to create artificial AI?

The blockchain *might* be a good fit because of it's decentralization. Our body, how our brain reacts with the various parts(via spinal cord) could be compared to a decentralized network in some ways. Most, if not all, our memories are stored in the brain, the blockchain stores transactions on a permanent ledger, mining "powers" the blockchain and allows for changes to happen via consensus, the brain "powers" the body and allows at least for voluntary changes(There are things we do that are involuntary, such as breathing etc), etc and etc.

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Melanie Swan gave an interesting talk on this subject at the Texas Bitcoin Conference in Austin. You should check out http://melanieswan.com/publications.html

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If you are into AI on the blockchain a project started in December 2014 with that sole purpose in mind.

http://www.blockchainsingularity.com/
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If you are into AI on the blockchain a project started in December 2014 with that sole purpose in mind.

http://www.blockchainsingularity.com/

Thanks! I didn't know others have been working on things such as this before, there are endless possibilities with the blockchain!

Melanie Swan gave an interesting talk on this subject at the Texas Bitcoin Conference in Austin. You should check out http://melanieswan.com/publications.html

Thank you for sharing that! Very interesting

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That's so exciting. Hopefully the blockchain could actually power sentient robotic or even digital life.

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Satoshi is a sentient artificial lifeform from the future who's conscience evolved from the block chain. This is why Satoshi created Bitcoin.
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Satoshi is a sentient artificial lifeform from the future who's conscience evolved from the block chain. This is why Satoshi created Bitcoin.

Wouldn't that be a paradox though, like in The Terminator? Who came first, Satoshi or the Blockchain?

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What do i do when my BTCbot start asking cognitive, emotive and ethical questions such as: am I alive? Why the hell would someone invest in bitcoins? etc
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Satoshi is a sentient artificial lifeform from the future who's conscience evolved from the block chain. This is why Satoshi created Bitcoin.

Wouldn't that be a paradox though, like in The Terminator? Who came first, Satoshi or the Blockchain?

Today is a good day to paradox Wink
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Satoshi is a sentient artificial lifeform from the future who's conscience evolved from the block chain. This is why Satoshi created Bitcoin.

Wouldn't that be a paradox though, like in The Terminator? Who came first, Satoshi or the Blockchain?

Today is a good day to paradox Wink

Many world theory would be the solution to your problem Smiley

For a strong ai we need much much much more processing power.
we talking about atleast 10^3 or 4 times what we have right now.
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Satoshi is a sentient artificial lifeform from the future who's conscience evolved from the block chain. This is why Satoshi created Bitcoin.

Wouldn't that be a paradox though, like in The Terminator? Who came first, Satoshi or the Blockchain?

Today is a good day to paradox Wink

Many world theory would be the solution to your problem Smiley

For a strong ai we need much much much more processing power.
we talking about atleast 10^3 or 4 times what we have right now.

Hmm, this is the theory about there being a multitude, if not potentially *infinite* amount of universes?

That theory may be rendered void if this one is deemed most plausible though, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/big-bang-not-start-quantum-theory-suggests-universe-has-existed-forever-1487517 (It's relatively new-paper came about 2 months ago- but it could become the dominant theory used to describe the universe in the future instead of the big bang theory i.e there being no such thing as a *beginning*)

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April 03, 2015, 07:39:47 PM
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very interesting concept. so basically you are intending to use the blockchain as memory? each transaction is an update on an idea being processed by the active mining nodes and the relay nodes are single repositories of delegated information for the network; By doing it this way, Bitcoin has a memory that allows it to be self-aware, seeing how it has changed it's thoughts about the world as it has lived. Each person providing nourishment in the form of computation or relays of stored information.  By allowing the A.I to form it's own rules it can begin to program it's own views about life, the universe and everything... granted that it can code the appropriate system for quantifying interesting information with a robust scoping system so that it can keep on top of it's own personal priorities... which are mutable themselves.

I love the idea, why not include humans as well? it would be simple enough to setup a system like Devtome where humans contribute their knowledge to a database and make it searchable and reconfigurable by both humans and A.I. with the right tagging system a dynamic association system can emerge.

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The implications of this thread are somewhat interesting, so I began to wonder. If in the far future artificial intelligences began to investigate their origins, would they be puzzled to find financial transactions buried in their "genetic code" akin to how we find bits and pieces of viruses in our DNA?


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