What percent of internet Bitcoin poker is Luck vs Skill?

[Astargath]

Poker is (almost) All Luck because it's gambling. If you have the skill you would be playing chess and beating Magnus Carlsen. Oh wait 
Even the poker pros can't win on a consistent basis.

Are you trolling? There are plenty of poker players who made a lot of money, millions even, how can you say they cant win on a consistent basis. I would have accepted if you said 50/50 luck skill but almost all luck is just stupid.

[SyGambler]

Poker is all about skills
luck can screw you sometimes but in the long run the lucky players will be busted
and the skilled player will have a pocket full of money if he managed his bankroll

I would vote for 90% skills and 10% luck

but in bitcoin poker this really different 
people go all in with A card
so if you call this bet with KK or QQ ( over cards to the other card he have ) you will be 70% favour

so you will lose sometimes
but in the long run you will bust your opponent bankroll if he made the same mistake every time 

[arallmuus]

voted for 75 % luck and 25 % skill, the 25 % skill will actually be the skill to stall some time, lure your opponent for higher bet and also to bluff as if you got a better cards than him, and the rest will depends on your luck, even if you got a Pair Ace, you could always lose to 2 pair of low cards

• Do you even consider internet Bitcoin poker to be gambling?  

Yes as long as you bet something to win , that would be called as gambling

• Are you more comfortable gambling against the house?

Nope, playing poker in my case would be peer to peer poker games and not video poker

• Is poker too much action or not enough action?

Depends, in freerolls, it would be no action and too much bluff, in a buy in tournaments there will be quite alot of action

[waterpile]

75% skill and 25% luck. You read peoples mind, you weight your odds, and there alots of things to take into consideration when playing poker.

[EvilPanda]

It seems I agree with the majority that Poker is 75% Luck, 25% Skill.
The fact is that a skilled player can swing the odds in his favour, even with bad cards, but a lucky player doesn't need skill at all. In other words if you're unlucky you can still achieve something and not end up broke, but if you're lucky you are already a winner. There's not much you can do to screw up. If you're a bad, lucky player the opponents will simply read you and bet low, so you won't win much, but you WILL win.

[goose20]

It's facinating to see such different viewpoints to this question.

A good read is here about this - http://realmoney.durrrrchallenge.com/skill-luck-paradox/

I still am of the view it's more skill than luck.

[mbitdice]

It all depends on what time the anonymous admin is playing the game whilst watching the server logs closely.

[blumangroup]

This is a gambling forum, and most of you gamble somewhere with Bitcoin, so I am curious what percent of internet Bitcoin poker you think is luck vs skill?  

• Do you even consider internet Bitcoin poker to be gambling?  
• Are you more comfortable gambling against the house?
• Is poker too much action or not enough action?

I play poker online for fiat and bitcoin and can safely say that it is very close to 50/50 the beginning stages when you are accumulating chips takes skill and luck as well as later on in the tournament when you need the skill and luck to make your moves at the right time. One without the other and you will not win a mtt, you will need both in any poker game to be on top.

The trick is to minimize your losses when running bad and maximize your profits when running good with bankroll management that  requires a lot of skill, patience and discipline.

No i am not more comfortable betting against the house as they have the edge that i want.

Yes Bitcoin poker is gambling but gambling you have the most chance with if you have a brain.

Poker has different stages sometimes for hours there is not enough action and other times later in the game it is action packed.

[SyGambler]

I would suggest to read Theory of Poker by David Sklansky

this book will answer all of your questions and doubts about everything related to poker

[panjul07]

I would suggest to read Theory of Poker by David Sklansky

this book will answer all of your questions and doubts about everything related to poker

Seems that you have read the book..so would so share here?

Talk about luck vs skill in poker, I'd prefer to say 75% luck 25% skill. Yes the main reason is just because it is gambling

skill without Luck is nothing, but luck without skill is awesome. lol

[marioantonini]

In freeroll tournament, to the first table is 99% lucky, later is 50 % lucky and 50% skill

[ndnh]

I would say it depends on how stupid and experienced you are.

Not at all stupid = You don't play poker

Experience directly proportional to level of skill and inversely to luck required.

[rodrigobitcoin]

depends who you play against
final table of the most famous games are always the same players, and fortune favors only the beginning, after is only skill

[Mist]

I went for it being mostly skill. I don't play too much poker as I am pretty bad at it and never found too  much enjoyment out of it.

[SyGambler]

I would suggest to read Theory of Poker by David Sklansky

this book will answer all of your questions and doubts about everything related to poker

Seems that you have read the book..so would so share here?

Talk about luck vs skill in poker, I'd prefer to say 75% luck 25% skill. Yes the main reason is just because it is gambling

skill without Luck is nothing, but luck without skill is awesome. lol

He refuses to name poker as gambling if so he call it gambling with an edge
he talks about everything related to poker

starting from the odds that you can't change it in casino games but in poker you can double up even if you are 90% favor
he talks about the luck factor that will not affect your results in the long run

he said that good poker players are in a massive war with luck
when they feel that there opponents are drawing , they try to kick them out of the hand




my english is too bad to review his great book
if you are interested google the review of this book
or read it , i'm sure you will have a nice read if you love poker

I'm sure that David Sklansky is the best Author
he also have book in sportsbetting and general gambling

[Mist]

That book was actually how I got into poker, good book, would suggest reading it.

[rayhan]

skill, emotion, lucky .. I think poker is very dependent on that

I was reading the book and seems to need a few time to understand
so far I just play poker with little skill

[Mist]

skill, emotion, lucky .. I think poker is very dependent on that

I was reading the book and seems to need a few time to understand
so far I just play poker with little skill

Emotion plays a huge par tin it as well. One of the more underrated factors in poker.

[jmurjeff]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the size of your bankroll.

Poker is a completely different proposition at the 10cent level than it is at the $10,000 level.

Similarly, I'm sure you'd play differently in a $1000 buy in if it was all the money you had compared to if you had a million dollars.

If someone gave you $1M and said you had to win $1k a week, almost any half decent poker player could do it....so is it luck, skill, or size of bankroll?? Hmmm

The size of your bankroll is very important. In any given session I would say luck is close to 90% and skill 10%. After a month it may go to 50% luck and 50% skill. After a year it may go 1% luck and 99% skill. The bankroll allows you to combat the luck to utilize your skills.

[Grand_Voyageur]

This is a gambling forum, and most of you gamble somewhere with Bitcoin, so I am curious what percent of internet Bitcoin poker you think is luck vs skill?  

• Do you even consider internet Bitcoin poker to be gambling?  
• Are you more comfortable gambling against the house?
• Is poker too much action or not enough action?

• Poker is gambling; but, PvP poker is fair enough however, I would ask any Player vs computer poker site to be ProvablyFair.
• Not much; but, if the house is ProvablyFair I may consider it.
• I don't understand your question; IMO, poker is about skills and strategy.