What percent of internet Bitcoin poker is Luck vs Skill?

[CarlesPuyol]

In my opinion, poker is 51% skill and 49% luck.
For example- If it was 100% luck, there were no players that will win so much tournaments, and there is almost no way to see amateur player in the final table of WSOP.

[jambola2]

In my opinion, poker is 51% skill and 49% luck.
For example- If it was 100% luck, there were no players that will win so much tournaments, and there is almost no way to see amateur player in the final table of WSOP.

I perceived the question slightly differently.
Sure, if it is about WSOP, I'd say its mostly skill, with an element of luck.
But, when talking about Online Bitcoin Poker, there is a significantly lower skill level, particularly due to lower stakes.
To go for the WSOP, you have to pay 10k$, to play online though, you can even play freerolls and start off. The high stakes community is not too active (there are occasional high rollers) and I'd guess atleast 90% of the players gamble under 10$ in an average session. I doubt many players have actual strategies, or prior practice.
So, while your idea of more luck than skill may hold true for WSOP, it probably does not hold true for online Bitcoin poker.

[WalkerIVIV]

51/49 def! You can check it everywhere no matter you get you always lost if there is lot of players in tournament ( you have to get 30x AA and win to get 1* place and chance on this is like 1%) yea you can trying it again and again and maybe you will be in a profit for a while but it's no worth of it

[Xiaoxiao]

60/40 skill/luck

[patt0]

I'm not a good poker player, so I need luck, but I do not hesitate to say that poker is mostly skill.
Luck helps, as it helps in any aspect of life, but poker is about the long turn so you can only get a profit from it if you are skilled, because no one can just "have luck" all the time, so they can get profit in the long turn.

There are professional poker players, I know one, he was in college with me (he is not a super well known pro like Phil Ivey, Gus Hansen, etc etc), but he goes to all those big tournaments in Europe like EPT etc, and he gets to the prizes regularly and can make a very good living of it.
So yes poker is skill, otherwise you would not get professional poker players. They are not the "lucky ones", that simple does not exist. They are the ones that know how to play and can make a good bank management etc etc.

[ChiliPowder]

Im 50/50, watch Daniel Negraneu call reads on guys and tell me it doesn't take some skill. Chip managment is a skill and knowing when to fold is a giant skill to. But you have to be getting atleast decent cards to really collect, take a bad beat on someone where you just kill them. Even the most skillfull players have bad bad weeks/months/years.

[patt0]

Im 50/50, watch Daniel Negraneu call reads on guys and tell me it doesn't take some skill. Chip managment is a skill and knowing when to fold is a giant skill to. But you have to be getting atleast decent cards to really collect, take a bad beat on someone where you just kill them. Even the most skillfull players have bad bad weeks/months/years.

Yes they have bad beats, but with good bankroll management you can stay in the game so that the bad beats aren't just able to make a mess. And saying that they last for years is just to much I think.
In the long turn either the "luck" or the "bad luck" will just disappear, that's pure statistics. You can't be lucky all the time or unlucky all the time unless you are cheating. So 50/50 is just to much.

I mean can someone make a living in a work (because poker is work for professional poker players) that requires 50% of luck?

[orryde]

For me that's like 60% Luck and 40% Skill, During play poker I always rely on that card I held and then make a way or tactics so that i can easily win (It depends )

[fox19891989]

In my opinion, poker is 51% skill and 49% luck.
For example- If it was 100% luck, there were no players that will win so much tournaments, and there is almost no way to see amateur player in the final table of WSOP.

I perceived the question slightly differently.
Sure, if it is about WSOP, I'd say its mostly skill, with an element of luck.
But, when talking about Online Bitcoin Poker, there is a significantly lower skill level, particularly due to lower stakes.
To go for the WSOP, you have to pay 10k$, to play online though, you can even play freerolls and start off. The high stakes community is not too active (there are occasional high rollers) and I'd guess atleast 90% of the players gamble under 10$ in an average session. I doubt many players have actual strategies, or prior practice.
So, while your idea of more luck than skill may hold true for WSOP, it probably does not hold true for online Bitcoin poker.

49% luck? I don't think it is 49%, too high actually, 29% is highest IMO.

If we have good luck, but less skills, you still can't win big cos your opponents can guess what hands you have, if they think you have better hands, they would fold instantly, even he has AA, I saw a video about Johnny Chan, he read his opponents had three of a kind, and he just had AA, so he folded without any hesitation. So he only lost a little money, and this is how important skill is. I am sure most of players would be all in with AA, and in that case, lost all of money with AA     So you have good luck with AA, others may have good luck with three of a kind. 

[SyGambler]

people who think that luck play the biggest part of poker they are not poker players , if so they should leave poker and move to dice
Luck play a part in the game , but not that big as many people are saying
you may be lucky to have AA 3 times in a row ( which is a big luck part you got the top hand ) but even this hand need a way to be played
so without skill you won't even win a good pot with pocket aces
so even if you are lucky u need skills to build the pot or to maximize your value

[adaseb]

There is a huge different between internet Poker and real life poker.

Most of the best poker gamblers can't make any money online. Poker is mostly about skill, but when played online its due to luck.

[Compa]

25% luck and 75% skill
we need skill to play in gambling.

[Mallampue]

voted
poker is almost all luck

[apriyani420]

poker in real life is 75 skill and 25 luck but on the internet it changes to 25 skill 75 luck as people cant show emotions and stuff

[sherbyspark]

Definitely agree with the Live vs Online Poker scene . I have played both Live and online extensively . Even though my online sessions have been profitable so far , but the live have been more profitable than online. Online is usually supposed to get you to play more hands in a given time so actually if you are playing the same game both online and live and do well,  then your online profit should be much more than live. But I definitely find live more easy to win more.
Would also like to add , that I have a personal poker player friend who has been constantly playing live and both online, even he has trouble winning online . However there are also people who have adapted to online play and are able to do good too .

[reefsea]

i think to play in gambling we need luck and skill
so i choice 50% luck and 50% skill.
and dont forget to play poker we need be patience.

[FruitsBasket]

i think to play in gambling we need luck and skill
so i choice 50% luck and 50% skill.
and dont forget to play poker we need be patience.

if its a 50/50 then probably i should do always call the All-in button because i have a 50% winning percentage

[SyGambler]

Definitely agree with the Live vs Online Poker scene . I have played both Live and online extensively . Even though my online sessions have been profitable so far , but the live have been more profitable than online. Online is usually supposed to get you to play more hands in a given time so actually if you are playing the same game both online and live and do well,  then your online profit should be much more than live. But I definitely find live more easy to win more.
Would also like to add , that I have a personal poker player friend who has been constantly playing live and both online, even he has trouble winning online . However there are also people who have adapted to online play and are able to do good too .

well yes maybe you have a point , but in my opinion live is also has positives and negatives
for me , I live in a country where gambling is forbidden and there are no casinos available here
I have been doing pretty good online , now if I move to a country where gambling is allowed I don't think that I will do good playing live games cause I don't have the experience , I may suffer months till I get used to it

[jeffthebaker]

In my opinion, poker is 51% skill and 49% luck.
For example- If it was 100% luck, there were no players that will win so much tournaments, and there is almost no way to see amateur player in the final table of WSOP.

I perceived the question slightly differently.
Sure, if it is about WSOP, I'd say its mostly skill, with an element of luck.
But, when talking about Online Bitcoin Poker, there is a significantly lower skill level, particularly due to lower stakes.
To go for the WSOP, you have to pay 10k$, to play online though, you can even play freerolls and start off. The high stakes community is not too active (there are occasional high rollers) and I'd guess atleast 90% of the players gamble under 10$ in an average session. I doubt many players have actual strategies, or prior practice.
So, while your idea of more luck than skill may hold true for WSOP, it probably does not hold true for online Bitcoin poker.

I would actually disagree that WSOP is more skill involved than online poker. By watching any amount of WSOP on television, you can see people staying alive due to lucky draws all the time. Regardless of the skill of a player has, an incredible amount of luck is needed to make it to that final table. If WSOP was mostly skill, you would see mostly the same faces each final table.

As far as online poker goes, I would say its 50/50. Realistically, you can play enough hands to where if you are a good player you will consistently profit. However, for the more casual players, who play in tourneys every now and then, luck is easily as important as skill, but it doesn't play as big of a role (imo) as it does in WSOP.

[adaseb]

i think to play in gambling we need luck and skill
so i choice 50% luck and 50% skill.
and dont forget to play poker we need be patience.

if its a 50/50 then probably i should do always call the All-in button because i have a 50% winning percentage

No its definately not 50/50.

In real-life you can win easily just by looking at people's expressions. Doing it online that's impossible.