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April 05, 2015, 11:44:10 PM
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/big-investor-involvement-could-boost-bitcoin-1428259814

http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2015/04/05/bny-mellon-explores-bitcoins-potential/

Wall Street was clearly waiting for regulation and the outlook is becoming much clearer.  The etf is something they feel they can work with.

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April 05, 2015, 11:54:22 PM
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I think you're right. The articles (advertisements in my mind) from the big press outlets seem to be getting more priming-the-pump'ish just this year.

Two years ago some of us would've shit a brick at being mentioned in WSJ.
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April 06, 2015, 12:29:49 AM
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I think you're right. The articles (advertisements in my mind) from the big press outlets seem to be getting more priming-the-pump'ish just this year.

Two years ago some of us would've shit a brick at being mentioned in WSJ.

What about security though? Even if there are regulations in place, it still seems investors are weary because nothing has really been figured out about incidents like mt gox, and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of btc seemingly disappearing
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April 06, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
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I think you're right. The articles (advertisements in my mind) from the big press outlets seem to be getting more priming-the-pump'ish just this year.

Two years ago some of us would've shit a brick at being mentioned in WSJ.

What about security though? Even if there are regulations in place, it still seems investors are weary because nothing has really been figured out about incidents like mt gox, and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of btc seemingly disappearing

A matter of competence and honesty.
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April 06, 2015, 12:58:35 AM
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GBTC sold 75 btc's in 2 weeks....
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April 06, 2015, 01:07:26 AM
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GBTC sold 75 btc's in 2 weeks....
Trading hasn't started. The sellers haven't showed up yet.
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April 06, 2015, 01:36:40 AM
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I think you're right. The articles (advertisements in my mind) from the big press outlets seem to be getting more priming-the-pump'ish just this year.

Two years ago some of us would've shit a brick at being mentioned in WSJ.

What about security though? Even if there are regulations in place, it still seems investors are weary because nothing has really been figured out about incidents like mt gox, and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of btc seemingly disappearing

That's what's the derivatives are for. Gain exposure to the price movements, but no worries about learning how to secure bitcoins properly.
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April 06, 2015, 02:09:00 AM
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Oh I forgot another headline:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19864/ubs-open-blockchain-innovation-lab-london/

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April 06, 2015, 02:26:04 AM
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Wall street big money, this have been mentioned for thousands times, but seems they never come with their big money and big pump to market. Anyway I'm glad we back to $260 today.
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April 06, 2015, 03:19:44 AM
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Don't worry, we will slowly slide back down to 240 soon.
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April 06, 2015, 03:41:19 AM
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Wall street big money, this have been mentioned for thousands times, but seems they never come with their big money and big pump to market. Anyway I'm glad we back to $260 today.

I feel like sophisticated finance is not the type to accumulate like every day people. I imagine some sort of crazy math refined by stress testing rakes up all the money from normal speculators, no matter which direction they want to go.  We know they're definitely in Bitcoin. Why would you rather pump up the price making everyone rich when you could keep more of the fiat influx to yourself setting up trading ranges you can more or less control i.e. profit in both directions? But maybe I'm too paranoid.
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April 06, 2015, 05:00:12 AM
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Also gives info for Cumberland mining (auction winner)
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April 06, 2015, 05:31:40 AM
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Existing bids:

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Canaccord Genuity Inc		   100	35.51
KCG Americas LLC    100 35.50
Wedbush Securities Inc    100 31.50
Citadel Securities    243 25.00
Puma Capital, LLC    100 25.00
Merriman Curhan Ford & Co    100 20.00
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April 06, 2015, 05:49:39 AM
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Existing bids:

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Canaccord Genuity Inc		   100	35.51
KCG Americas LLC    100 35.50
Wedbush Securities Inc    100 31.50
Citadel Securities    243 25.00
Puma Capital, LLC    100 25.00
Merriman Curhan Ford & Co    100 20.00


Bids on what? The GBTC shares?
Got a source?

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April 06, 2015, 05:52:41 AM
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Yeah, GBTC.

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote
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April 06, 2015, 06:00:04 AM
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One share of GBTC represents 0.1btc. Minus fees.
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April 06, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
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One share of GBTC represents 0.1btc. Minus fees.

Thank you. I don't understand why they would bid over spot though?
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April 06, 2015, 06:06:17 AM
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Thank you. I don't understand why they would bid over spot though?

They're likely place holder bids, expect it to adjust (probably drastically) when someone actually is willing to sell some shares.
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April 06, 2015, 06:10:47 AM
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Thank you. I don't understand why they would bid over spot though?

They're likely place holder bids, expect it to adjust (probably drastically) when someone actually is willing to sell some shares.

Are these basically public limit orders?

What's the advantage to having a placeholder instead of just submitting a bid at or right before open? My thoughts lie on manipulation/appearing a certain way, but I'm ignorant of other reasons.
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April 06, 2015, 06:18:13 AM
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We're talking 10-24.3 btc worth here. Mostly like a ping to entice someone to place an ask.
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