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April 06, 2015, 02:25:43 AM
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Bryan Micon here, decade-long professional poker player.  Don't believe me?  hit the google.  I am also the SwC Poker guy. 

I see a lot of terrible gambling advice and general misunderstanding of gambling thrown around this forum.  I think there are many young humans in the bitcoin world an they could benefit from asking a guy like me some questions and getting some straight answers.

I'll hit some highlights before we begin:

1)  Martingale is a long-term losing strategy, assuming you don't have an infinite bankroll and the betting game has limits.
2)  If a game has a "negative expected value," there is no system that can beat it.  If someone tells you they have a Dice strategy, they don't.  If they did, they would run it themselves and certainly not share this information.
3)  Most gamblers will tell you they can beat sports betting.  >99% of them are lying.
4)  Most gamblers will tell you they can beat poker.  ~85% of them are lying.
5)  Blackjack, when playing with certain rules, keeping a proper count, and knowing what to do when the count is X, can be beaten.  It is really fucking hard and very few people can do it properly.  There is also massive variance.  Most players that tell you they can count and beat blackjack are lying, but it is possible.
6)  Craps is beatable, google "The Dominator" and watch his "Breaking Vegas" episode.  Very few, I mean likely <100 humans can beat craps.  Only a handful for big money.  it's possible, but again, if someone tells you they are beating craps, ask about their controlled throw and how many months they have practiced.  If they look at you funny, they are lying.  If they have a craps table in their garage, maybe they are not lying.  But still ask to see them throw.
7)  Roulette was once beat by a team strapping a small computer to one member, timing the wheel rotations, timing the ball spinning, and zero-ing on a quadrant during the short window of time that betting is open after the wheel and ball have started spinning.  There is also such a thing as a "corrupt wheel" in roulette that favors one number or a group of numbers.  It is hard to get statistically significant data off of 1 roulette wheel as a player, but again, it can be done.  However it's highly unlikely anyone telling you about their roulette strategy is a winning roulette player.  In fact, I've found most roulette players to be the most degen.
Cool Poker is of course beatable.  I've beaten it over a long set.  ~8/10 players lose.  ~1/10 players is break even, or close enough to break even on either side it rounds to 0.  ~1/10 players win over the long set.  Poker has gotten much harder since I started playing professionally in ~2005.  I would never suggest someone try to play poker professionally.  If you want to play a lot of poker and follow the tour, I'd suggest limiting it to no more than 5 years seriously.  And do so after you have become wealthy enough that your "pro" career won't affect your personal finances.  So often have I seen really smart kids get into poker and then do nothing but poker for such a long period of their lives.  Sure it's a lot of fun, but many of these stories don't end well.  The life of a small-winning poker player isn't very glamorous.  Only a select few are killing it to the point where it's a dream-job in terms of money and how much time you have for other interests.  Most of those beating poker for big money also have sponsorships or some other source of income.  I would never play poker as my main source of income ever again, and even when I was making very good money during the "golden years" of online poker, I still had businesses and websites and other income streams.  If someone is going to become a pro player, there is likely nothing I can do to stop that person.  If you are on the fence, don't do it.  Start a business, make something useful that other humans want or need.  So much brilliant brainpower banged up against each other over 2 cards down and 5 in the middle.  Seems like we should be trying to solve the energy crisis - you know - doing real shit, not just playing games.  That's most of my rant on poker. 

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April 06, 2015, 02:40:00 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

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April 06, 2015, 02:46:56 AM
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Martingale strategy is well applied in binary options

I recommend secondstrade.com
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April 06, 2015, 02:49:18 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Yes, it's true, you can decrease house edge if you count cards.

But many big casinos use continuous shuffle machine, so counting card is meaningless when you play there.

And I think online casinos reshuffle every time as well.
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April 06, 2015, 02:49:24 AM
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3)  Most gamblers will tell you they can beat sports betting.  >99% of them are lying.
4)  Most gamblers will tell you they can beat poker.  ~85% of them are lying.

Here in Europe you can switch those two statistics around Wink

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April 06, 2015, 02:52:14 AM
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Bryan Micon, wow, I just google your name, cool, there are many your pictures when you play in live tournaments.

And google tells me about you:  http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=67931

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All Time Money List Current Rank   2,592nd
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A good player, a few questions:

1. have you get a WSOP bracelet before?  Cheesy
2. if you join freerolls in SWC, can you win 50% of freerolls?
3. are there many pros in SWC? Grin
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April 06, 2015, 02:54:18 AM
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A good player, have you get a WSOP bracelet before?  Cheesy

Yes he does, but it was a gift from a friend Cheesy

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April 06, 2015, 02:54:52 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Yes, it's true, you can decrease house edge if you count cards.

But many big casinos use continuous shuffle machine, so counting card is meaningless when you play there.

And I think online casinos reshuffle every time as well.

and some casinos use more than 1 set of cards in every deal right? so counting cards doesnt give you an advantage in some casinos

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April 06, 2015, 02:55:33 AM
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I thought you were joking until I searched you up and damn must I say you're pretty famous xD.

Few questions:

1. Is it possible for one to make a living out of playing poker? It seems you are really good at it so I would hope so.
2. There are alot of poker sites that give out freerolls eg bitcoinpoker.gg, nitrogen sports, did you try playing those? If you could you can win a ton.
3. Is it better to play physically because you can see other people bluff?
4. How long have you had your blue sunglasses, they're in every picture xD
5. What would you recommend reading over to people who are new to poker. I know the rules of poker and hands and stuff but I'm not really good at it. Are there any pointers you can give me? And what websites to read to learn more?

Hi!
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April 06, 2015, 02:59:46 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Yes, it's true, you can decrease house edge if you count cards.

But many big casinos use continuous shuffle machine, so counting card is meaningless when you play there.

And I think online casinos reshuffle every time as well.

and some casinos use more than 1 set of cards in every deal right? so counting cards doesnt give you an advantage in some casinos

usually 6-8 decks of cards.

Here is the best link talking about blackjack: http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/, and you can calculate house edge here: http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

In general, more decks of cards, the higher house edge. That's why 1 deck BJ is rare to see.

I just calculate 1 deck BJ, it's minus house edge,   wow, the game which casino gives us money  Grin
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April 06, 2015, 03:02:55 AM
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If you have any, share your knowledge on "binary options"
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April 06, 2015, 03:23:46 AM
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If you have any, share your knowledge on "binary options"

Unless you have insider information - it's binary options are nothing more than a dice game with a huge -EV (the company takes anywhere between 5-20%) as they are basically a guessing game. Not to mention if you did have insider information there are a lot of easier and faster ways for you to profit off that info that binary options. Basically, don't do it unless you want to lose even more money than you would at a 1% edge dice game.
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April 06, 2015, 03:24:30 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Yes, it's true, you can decrease house edge if you count cards.

But many big casinos use continuous shuffle machine, so counting card is meaningless when you play there.

And I think online casinos reshuffle every time as well.

Just want to add that the casino can ban you from their casino for counting cards in some places. There are still places they do manual shuffles or a machine shuffles but it is not continuous. You need a large bankroll to have a shot at beating blackjack but getting banned may make it not worth it if you play poker tournaments.
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April 06, 2015, 03:36:22 AM
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Just want to add that the casino can ban you from their casino for counting cards in some places. There are still places they do manual shuffles or a machine shuffles but it is not continuous. You need a large bankroll to have a shot at beating blackjack but getting banned may make it not worth it if you play poker tournaments.

I'd like to point out that casinos can ban you on the premise or suspicion of you counting cards - they don't need to prove it or anything. Basically if you're doing consistently well over a long period of time they can ask you to leave.
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April 06, 2015, 03:51:43 AM
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If you have any, share your knowledge on "binary options"

Unless you have insider information - it's binary options are nothing more than a dice game with a huge -EV (the company takes anywhere between 5-20%) as they are basically a guessing game. Not to mention if you did have insider information there are a lot of easier and faster ways for you to profit off that info that binary options. Basically, don't do it unless you want to lose even more money than you would at a 1% edge dice game.

You are right, binary option has very high house edge, dice is much better than it, unless some one has inside info, and bet before important news releasing.

General traders can hardly earn money from them because the house edge is ridiculous high.
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April 06, 2015, 04:07:39 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Yes, it's true, you can decrease house edge if you count cards.

But many big casinos use continuous shuffle machine, so counting card is meaningless when you play there.

And I think online casinos reshuffle every time as well.

and some casinos use more than 1 set of cards in every deal right? so counting cards doesnt give you an advantage in some casinos

Multiple decks can still provide a beatable game, but like Bryan Micon said it is very difficult to win long-term at blackjack.
The most realistic goal for many talented blackjack players would be to earn really good comps while not spending much money. If you manage to become a "world class" player, then most casinos will eventually ban you from playing blackjack.

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April 06, 2015, 06:34:50 AM
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How come some people don't understand basic probability and yet think they can out think all previous mathematicans and devise a "winning strategy" when they have a negative EV?
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April 06, 2015, 08:53:51 AM
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blackjack. how about that
i just seen on movie 21 blackjack we should to count a cards , it is true? im still dont understand

Movies and all make it sound like an easy concept but counting is very hard in real time. And the edge you get with it is pretty small. But if you have a lot of bankroll and can sit on a table with high stakes, it will be profitable. But casinos are easily able to spot the counters these days.
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April 06, 2015, 10:52:42 AM
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I would like to get some tips and tricks about bankroll management because this is for me the most important foundation of successful gambling. If you have the time please write a concise explanation for a poker and sportsbetting bankroll management to cater to all players thank you.
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April 06, 2015, 11:04:03 AM
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Poker has gotten much harder since I started playing professionally in ~2005.  I would never suggest someone try to play poker professionally.  If you want to play a lot of poker and follow the tour, I'd suggest limiting it to no more than 5 years seriously.  And do so after you have become wealthy enough that your "pro" career won't affect your personal finances.  So often have I seen really smart kids get into poker and then do nothing but poker for such a long period of their lives.  Sure it's a lot of fun, but many of these stories don't end well.  The life of a small-winning poker player isn't very glamorous.  Only a select few are killing it to the point where it's a dream-job in terms of money and how much time you have for other interests.  Most of those beating poker for big money also have sponsorships or some other source of income.  I would never play poker as my main source of income ever again,

I played professionally from about 2007 - 2012 as main source of income, it was a very bad decision.  Stress built up over the years as the games got tougher, income was down year on year.  Ending up burning out.

This is very good advice i'd only suggest playing professionally if you are a poker celebrity who gets invited to live events or has sponsorship or you run a VERY successful training site.  Otherwise play part time at most.
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