The real reason why NXT & CO failed so far

[From Above]

even if this is a strange question, how about this.

he have seen 100s of useless altcoin passed, looked at NXT and discovered:

1. devs ALWAYS deliver
2. tons of usage scenarios
3. clever and ambitious userspace with interdisciplinary skills
4. has all other coins like to have
5. mass adoptable due to widest functionality in crypto space
6. many very forward-looking projects from high skilled side devs
7. and most important, usable now

there is more but does this makes sense?

u know what? that makes sense. and its true that nxt tech is very good
BUT one thing.
its utterly inpopular and almost nobody uses it (like <1k people - somehow weird isnt it?).
thats a real pity. like that it wont go anywhere
it will remain hidden and unused if nothing is changed about real life use of this thing
add more and more tech: ppl wont care more bcuz u add yet another feature ...
right now its safe to say that nxt is a sleeping beast.
but it will probably keep sleeping and sleeping if nxt guys think all that is enough to REALLY shine. its not.

bitcoin,nxt,etcpp. Tech is not enough to be used. Nobody will care.
Use cases that r interesting, attracting, average joe LIKES, thats what gets u used.

not another shiny feature on top of the "block chain". nobody gives a damn about that. except a nxt dev or some1 interested in the technology - that is 0.1% of society maximum.

change ur style or prepare to die

[Cryddit]

The posting personalities of the people involved do not inspire confidence. 

Of all the alts out there, these are some of the ones that would inspire more confidence if their devs or designers stopped posting. 

[From Above]

The posting personalities of the people involved do not inspire confidence.  

Of all the alts out there, these are some of the ones that would inspire more confidence if their devs or designers stopped posting.  

i think most cryptocoin-interested ppl that r not into nxt but could get into it r totally turned off by the overall aura of dem NXT guys in general. i mean its just not a circle anyone would easily wanna get involved in.  its like a cold room without any heating engine. and theres not even tea to heat u up.

in my opinion this is VERY unfortunate. nxt lacks ppl that can see from other ppls eyes. all they c is how great nxt is or is supposed 2 be and how great community is. they wont even get that thats not important at all. thats inner circle other ppl r turned off from. nobody wanna join that.

but community or presence is not the real issue.
real issue is no real world use cases at all ----> no need for nxt or {insert coin here}.
shitcoins are not even worth mentioning. the real issue : 2.0 coins with 1000 great features and 1000 users r not doing anything 2 the world.

[Come-from-Beyond]

i think most cryptocoin-interested ppl that r not into nxt but could get into it r totally turned off by the overall aura of dem NXT guys in general. i mean its just not a circle anyone would easily wanna get involved in.  its like a cold room without any heating engine. and theres not even tea vodka to heat u up.

in my opinion this is VERY unfortunate. nxt lacks ppl that can see from other ppls eyes. all they c is how great nxt is or is supposed 2 be and how great community is. they wont even get that thats not important at all. thats inner circle other ppl r turned off from. nobody wanna join that.

but community or presence is not the real issue.
real issue is no real world use cases at all ----> no need for nxt or {insert coin here}.
shitcoins are not even worth mentioning. the real issue : 2.0 coins with 1000 great features and 1000 users r not doing anything 2 the world.

FTFY

[From Above]

i think most cryptocoin-interested ppl that r not into nxt but could get into it r totally turned off by the overall aura of dem NXT guys in general. i mean its just not a circle anyone would easily wanna get involved in.  its like a cold room without any heating engine. and theres not even tea vodka to heat u up.

in my opinion this is VERY unfortunate. nxt lacks ppl that can see from other ppls eyes. all they c is how great nxt is or is supposed 2 be and how great community is. they wont even get that thats not important at all. thats inner circle other ppl r turned off from. nobody wanna join that.

but community or presence is not the real issue.
real issue is no real world use cases at all ----> no need for nxt or {insert coin here}.
shitcoins are not even worth mentioning. the real issue : 2.0 coins with 1000 great features and 1000 users r not doing anything 2 the world.

FTFY

thx CFB that makes sense

[FreedomCoin]

OP... Have you heard of the saying "Build it, and they will come"?

Its impossible to know the uses of this tech in about couple years... we have been wrong soo many times about tech.

[From Above]

OP... Have you heard of the saying "Build it, and they will come"?

Its impossible to know the uses of this tech in about couple years... we have been wrong soo many times about tech.

yes bud i know, but
take btc
 6 years, good solid tech, only ~250k people came. that can be considered fail in about every major industry...

its not enough to convince ppl this is any better then cash... right now cash is better, far better, FOR the average guy. do u see? those ppl dont even wanna hear "blockchain" or the likes. they want to click and go.

[tokeweed]

even if this is a strange question, how about this.

he have seen 100s of useless altcoin passed, looked at NXT and discovered:

1. devs ALWAYS deliver
2. tons of usage scenarios
3. clever and ambitious userspace with interdisciplinary skills
4. has all other coins like to have
5. mass adoptable due to widest functionality in crypto space
6. many very forward-looking projects from high skilled side devs
7. and most important, usable now

there is more but does this makes sense?

u know what? that makes sense. and its true that nxt tech is very good
BUT one thing.
its utterly inpopular and almost nobody uses it (like <1k people - somehow weird isnt it?).
thats a real pity. like that it wont go anywhere
it will remain hidden and unused if nothing is changed about real life use of this thing
add more and more tech: ppl wont care more bcuz u add yet another feature ...
right now its safe to say that nxt is a sleeping beast.
but it will probably keep sleeping and sleeping if nxt guys think all that is enough to REALLY shine. its not.

bitcoin,nxt,etcpp. Tech is not enough to be used. Nobody will care.
Use cases that r interesting, attracting, average joe LIKES, thats what gets u used.

not another shiny feature on top of the "block chain". nobody gives a damn about that. except a nxt dev or some1 interested in the technology - that is 0.1% of society maximum.

change ur style or prepare to die

NXT is like Linux.  It's awesome, and a plaything for the more technically inclined.  But the common people need Windows. 

[BTCDDev]

even if this is a strange question, how about this.

he have seen 100s of useless altcoin passed, looked at NXT and discovered:

1. devs ALWAYS deliver
2. tons of usage scenarios
3. clever and ambitious userspace with interdisciplinary skills
4. has all other coins like to have
5. mass adoptable due to widest functionality in crypto space
6. many very forward-looking projects from high skilled side devs
7. and most important, usable now

there is more but does this makes sense?

u know what? that makes sense. and its true that nxt tech is very good
BUT one thing.
its utterly inpopular and almost nobody uses it (like <1k people - somehow weird isnt it?).
thats a real pity. like that it wont go anywhere
it will remain hidden and unused if nothing is changed about real life use of this thing
add more and more tech: ppl wont care more bcuz u add yet another feature ...
right now its safe to say that nxt is a sleeping beast.
but it will probably keep sleeping and sleeping if nxt guys think all that is enough to REALLY shine. its not.

bitcoin,nxt,etcpp. Tech is not enough to be used. Nobody will care.
Use cases that r interesting, attracting, average joe LIKES, thats what gets u used.

not another shiny feature on top of the "block chain". nobody gives a damn about that. except a nxt dev or some1 interested in the technology - that is 0.1% of society maximum.

change ur style or prepare to die

NXT is like Linux.  It's awesome, and a plaything for the more technically inclined.  But the common people need Windows.  

Unfortunately this is too true. Although, I've never seen anyone open NXT's HTML wallet and not been deeply impressed. QT --> HTML is like SDTV --> HDTV

[tokeweed]

But maybe something like this for NXT could help.  https://block.io

[Daedelus]

https://nxtblocks.info/
https://wallet.mynxt.info/

There are Android, iOS, Winphone and alternative standard wallets (including wallet.dat files) if you prefer.

https://www.mofowallet.com/
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-mobile/(ann)-nxt-mobile/

So much sage and informed opinion here...  

[BTCDDev]

But maybe something like this for NXT could help.  https://block.io

Many applications like this can now be built using the Jay wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74tdKxKVZHU

It abstracts away interfacing with the actual NXT wallet, signs everything locally, and is pure HTML/JavaScript.

jnxt.org/jay

[tokeweed]

I mean an API.  Something to make it easier for other devs to deploy NXT wallets.

[tokeweed]

But maybe something like this for NXT could help.  https://block.io

Many applications like this can now be built using the Jay wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74tdKxKVZHU

It abstracts away interfacing with the actual NXT wallet, signs everything locally, and is pure HTML/JavaScript.

I'll check it out.  Thanks...

[Daedelus]

I mean an API.  Something to make it easier for other devs to deploy NXT wallets.

Nxt has APIs, over 150 of them (approx).

https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API


Many wallets and features (i.e. Supernet) use Nxt APIs to generate messages, prepare transactions etc. etc. used by third party devs. Nxt is designed to be built on, to move away form the core devs.


When people say "we don't need tech, we need stuff average Joe will use", I hear

"we don't need the internet, we need facebook" or
"we don't need satellites, we need mobile phones" or
"we don't need electronic optics, we need selfie sticks"


.. and usually I have a little wry smile, exhale and then carry on  

[Hollowman338]

I mean an API.  Something to make it easier for other devs to deploy NXT wallets.

Nxt has APIs, over 150 of them (approx).

https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API


Many wallets and features (i.e. Supernet) use Nxt APIs to generate messages, prepare transactions etc. etc. used by third party devs. Nxt is designed to be built on, to move away form the core devs.


When people say "we don't need tech, we need stuff average Joe will use", I hear

"we don't need the internet, we need facebook" or
"we don't need satellites, we need mobile phones" or
"we don't need electronic optics, we need selfie sticks"


.. and usually I have a little wry smile, exhale and then carry on  

  Awesome reply.

[tokeweed]

I mean an API.  Something to make it easier for other devs to deploy NXT wallets.

Nxt has APIs, over 150 of them (approx).

https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API


Many wallets and features (i.e. Supernet) use Nxt APIs to generate messages, prepare transactions etc. etc. used by third party devs. Nxt is designed to be built on, to move away form the core devs.


When people say "we don't need tech, we need stuff average Joe will use", I hear

"we don't need the internet, we need facebook" or
"we don't need satellites, we need mobile phones" or
"we don't need electronic optics, we need selfie sticks"


.. and usually I have a little wry smile, exhale and then carry on  

How would you get ordinary people to use NXT?

[Daedelus]

I see your question "How do you get ordinary people to use TCP/IP?"

You don't. You give the 0.1% of society the tools to build the next internet. Where it goes from there, you can't predict. Technology (decentralized shops, ebay, DNS, data storage, unfalsifiable data retrival) will attract businesses if it provides the opportunity for profit. Users will only provide businesses with an income stream if they see the benefit of moving away from current systems. Simple as that.

Only Nxt is building consistently and they are only just starting (see the nxttechnologytree.com)

Mom and Pop aren't ready for crypto because crypto isn't ready for them.

[tokeweed]

I see your question "How do you get ordinary people to use TCP/IP?"

You don't. You give the 0.1% of society the tools to build the next internet. Where it goes from there, you can't predict. Technology (decentralized shops, ebay, DNS, data storage, unfalsifiable data retrival) will attract businesses if it provides the opportunity for profit. Users will only provide businesses with an income stream if they see the benefit of moving away from current systems. Simple as that.

Only Nxt is building consistently and they are only just starting (see the nxttechnologytree.com)

Mom and Pop aren't ready for crypto because crypto isn't ready for them.

Ah..  So instead of saying "NXT is like Linux...", it's more like NXT is something like TCP/IP, that needs a layer on top of it to make it useful for ordinary people...?

[Daedelus]

I don't know what people intend when they say 'like linux', usually I think it is intended to be derogatory.

We have seen snippets of what I mean. SecureAE.com was built so people could invest in Nxt AE with bitcoin (the conversion to Nxt was hidden). It was useful to bitcoiners.

Jl777 has asset to asset trading (some assets backed by crypto like BTC) in Instantdex/Multigateway. It's actually asset > nxt > asset trade but automated so seems like one trade. People wanted this and find it useful.

Sebastian256 proposed an idea to use the new Voting feature to allow centralised businesses/clubs/societies to use a regular username/password website to record completely decentralized voting results. It could even have a plug in to pay to fees in $ and convert to Nxt automatically so Nxt really does become like TCP/IP, invisible.

It takes time to do but the tools to do it need to be there first.