Bitcoin Forum
May 13, 2024, 06:25:01 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Login to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Martingale isn't that bad  (Read 1996 times)
leen93 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 04:49:22 PM
 #1

Am I right that when I want to make 1 btc profit from eg. 7 btc it is better to start doing this with a martingale strategy from 1 btc instead of going all in on a lower odd to earn this. Since with this strategy you wager on average less (1, 3 or 7 btc) than with the all-in strategy (7btc) I should on average lose less so I should have a higher chance making 8 btc from 7 btc using martingale than from an all-in bet?
1715624701
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715624701

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715624701
Reply with quote  #2

1715624701
Report to moderator
Make sure you back up your wallet regularly! Unlike a bank account, nobody can help you if you lose access to your BTC.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
pedrog
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2786
Merit: 1031



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
 #2

Yes, but with the amount of your bets approaching huge values like 1,000,000 the probability of you busting all your balance is going to 1, so eventually it will happen.

GrandmaJean
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 250


View Profile
April 09, 2015, 05:41:40 PM
 #3

isnt that the same possibility to get 1 btc because of the house edge? you would have to make more bets with lower wins or 1 bet with bigger win
RHavar
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2557
Merit: 1886



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 05:47:03 PM
 #4

Am I right that when I want to make 1 btc profit from eg. 7 btc it is better to start doing this with a martingale strategy from 1 btc instead of going all in on a lower odd to earn this. Since with this strategy you wager on average less (1, 3 or 7 btc) than with the all-in strategy (7btc) I should on average lose less so I should have a higher chance making 8 btc from 7 btc using martingale than from an all-in bet?

With a fixed house edge, yes, you are better to martingale. Your expected losses are based on how much you wager, and done properly a martingale will greatly reduce the amount you wager compared to an all-in bet, and thus improve your chances of winning.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
leen93 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 05:49:12 PM
 #5

felt bored and calculated it
so imagine you have 7 btc and want to make it 8 btc and there is a house edge of 2%
chance you'll be able to do this with martingale is 86.375%
chance you'll be able to do this with a bet of 7 btc is 85.75%
just a difference for exactly the same outcome
98problems
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
 #6

felt bored and calculated it
so imagine you have 7 btc and want to make it 8 btc and there is a house edge of 2%
chance you'll be able to do this with martingale is 86.375%
chance you'll be able to do this with a bet of 7 btc is 85.75%
just a difference for exactly the same outcome

so theres just no point to gamble small bets and waste your time on it. just do one bet and thats it

bitllionaire
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000


View Profile
April 09, 2015, 06:37:12 PM
 #7

martingale is not a bad strategy in ideal conditions, but if you have the house edge and a limited bank( it has to be really big related to your bets) you will finish losing you whole bank. If you think it is a win strategy,go and try it,and come to tell us your results
kotwica666
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2282
Merit: 1035



View Profile
April 09, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
 #8

Someone checked, that you can lose up to 32 times in a row, so count how much you need to protect such a strategy .. The truth is that there is no 100% strategy to win. It is just luck Wink ..Which I don't have Grin

.
..........
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
█████████████░░██████████████████████████░░███████████████████
███████████████░░██████████████████████████░░█████████████████
█████████████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░███████████████
█████████████████░░░░░░░░░░██░░██░░░░░░░░░░██░░███████████████
███████████████████░░░░░░██░░██████░░░░░░██░░█████████████████
█████████████████████░░░░░░██████████░░░░░░███████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████

▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
.....I AM BLACKJACK.FUN.....
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
█████████████░░██████████████████████████░░███████████████████
███████████████░░██████████████████████████░░█████████████████
█████████████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░███████████████
█████████████████░░░░░░░░░░██░░██░░░░░░░░░░██░░███████████████
███████████████████░░░░░░██░░██████░░░░░░██░░█████████████████
█████████████████████░░░░░░██████████░░░░░░███████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████

▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
..........
luciann
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 252
Merit: 250


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 12:01:55 AM
 #9

its not bad? well that depends all on the bankroll you have.. if you keep doubling you`ll bound to lose.

rayhan
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


be your self


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 12:28:47 AM
 #10

martingale sucks, never using method like this again, no matter how much of bitcoin which i had always gone when using this method .. martingale can only be done on sports betting

GMA7
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 54
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 12:34:02 AM
 #11

if you have 1000BTC bankroll and you have only 1satoshi as base bet then you can win with martingale Smiley
rayhan
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


be your self


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 12:45:02 AM
 #12

if you have 1000BTC bankroll and you have only 1satoshi as base bet then you can win with martingale Smiley
how could anyone willing to waste the time only for 1 satoshi if he had 1kbtc

malphite
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 252
Merit: 250


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 12:49:09 AM
 #13

not bad... is so how much has anyone won from ding this long term.
dznuts85
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 100

★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 01:08:36 AM
 #14

from my own personal experiece, martingale isnt bad really, i sometimes use martingale and i profit most of the time. i think it only depends on how you control your betting, just dont go to "waiting the red streaks to come".. if you know what i mean Cheesy

waterpile
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 01:29:58 AM
 #15

 I started with a .1BTC bank roll and with the power of martingale

Light
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 502


Circa 2010


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
 #16

I started with a .1BTC bank roll and with the power of martingale



TBH, you could've also lost all of that in a series of losses. Martingale always make you feel good because you think you have a winning strategy when in fact all it does is convince you to keep playing until you lose it all. That's why it's so profitable to run a large dice site (and why Stunna can lose 200 BTC due to exploits without blinking an eye).
waterpile
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 01:37:37 AM
 #17

I started with a .1BTC bank roll and with the power of martingale



TBH, you could've also lost all of that in a series of losses. Martingale always make you feel good because you think you have a winning strategy when in fact all it does is convince you to keep playing until you lose it all. That's why it's so profitable to run a large dice site (and why Stunna can lose 200 BTC due to exploits without blinking an eye).

I think all methods and strategies can lead to a series of losses. I'm just pointing out that martingale and like all other strategies have no differences.


edit*

Its about knowing when to stop, when you hit your target profit.
Ingatqhvq
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 10, 2015, 03:15:10 AM
 #18

If you lose one time, it always happened, no matter how less chance it is, you may lost all your money. Martingale strategy doesn't work all the times.
fox19891989
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 840
Merit: 1000



View Profile
April 10, 2015, 03:21:08 AM
 #19

I started with a .1BTC bank roll and with the power of martingale



Congrats, you got good luck. 0.1btc to 1+ btc, that's very nice profit. Grin

Martingale system working when someone has good luck and big bankroll. Don't forget risk and bankroll management, when you loses in a row just stop and withdraw.
Bit_Happy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1040


A Great Time to Start Something!


View Profile
April 10, 2015, 03:30:35 AM
 #20

Am I right that when I want to make 1 btc profit from eg. 7 btc it is better to start doing this with a martingale strategy from 1 btc instead of going all in on a lower odd to earn this. Since with this strategy you wager on average less (1, 3 or 7 btc) than with the all-in strategy (7btc) I should on average lose less so I should have a higher chance making 8 btc from 7 btc using martingale than from an all-in bet?

Martingale isn't that bad if you (for example) start with ~0.03 BTC and treat it like 3 Million units.
Betting small amounts you can have winning streaks that last over 8 to 10 days, just make sure the effort is worth your time (and money if you lose)

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!