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April 12, 2015, 01:48:08 PM
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Kajune you said: "also by size Samsung is more bigger than apple because Samsung not only doing business on phones but also Tv, DVD, refrigerator, etc other home appliances and other areas including non electronics products"

Are you serious?

Samsung has a market cap of 165B
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Apple has a market cap of 700B

Which one look bigger to you?



What is your source? From what I know apple only deal in electronics products and their smartphone and tablet market is more smaller than Samsung now. You probably only looking at Samsung electronics and not Samsung as a whole. The apple stock price is over valued and does not reflect on the real pundamental of apple.


Let's say my numbers are completely off, what are the numbers that you found/find; remember you are the one that believe "Samsung is more bigger".

Here two suggestions: do a search for the top 100 worldwide corporations, or go to any stock market and look up the numbers.   If you want to do some heavy research at both of their sites should be a resource called 'investor relations', look for the 'annual report' for last year, it will give you a breakdown of how they make their money.


Apple's itunes product is enormous and it costs nearly nothing to maintain because it's 99% electronic. 



I have said I'm not into the investment stuff so I don't check their annual report stuff, I just said what I said based on the information I heard about Samsung and apple, maybe you should see their profit report last year Vs apple last year to know who make more profit so you can decide on stuff.
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April 12, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
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Apple tried releasing a tablet years before they became popular and it flopped because it was ahead of its time. The watch might e the same.

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April 12, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
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I don't get the hype but I haven't worn a watch in years and the main reason is because they became redundant by mobile phones. It's like why would you need to carry around a compass or thermometer around anymore when you've just got a phone that can do all that. No need.

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April 12, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
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Apple tried releasing a tablet years before they became popular and it flopped because it was ahead of its time. The watch might e the same.

Yeah, that was the same for their early line of computers, but AHEAD of their time is one thing, but this is not ahead this is a 'throwback' to a time before tablets, cell phones and computers.   That's almost as bad as making a new and super cool typewriter without a screen that could attach to your leg. Image, a machine that enables what you type to go  directly on the paper, no need for a printer, cords or additional power -- wow, can you believe that?   Only $800

The iwatch doesn't represent radical innovation, it's simply a renovation.  

60 Million are expected to sell worldwide, my guess is that will be cut in half in year two if it gets there.

I really wish someone who ordered one chimes in, I want to hear that other side.







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I don't get the hype but I haven't worn a watch in years and the main reason is because they became redundant by mobile phones. It's like why would you need to carry around a compass or thermometer around anymore when you've just got a phone that can do all that. No need.



agree, agree, agree ...    I think this is a matter of the 'emperor has no clothes on'  and no one wants to tell the CEO this isn't too bright.

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April 12, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
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I have a Pebble Steel, had a regular Pebble before that, and I've pre-ordered an Apple Watch. The Pebble has been a great tool, and I rely on it every day. Things like being able to glance at a notification without interrupting a conversation, or quickly reply to a message with a canned response, or use a Pomodoro timer to manage my work.

I'm moving to the Apple Watch for a bunch of reasons. Firstly, I don't like the new Pebble Time interface, and it feels like it's not enough of an advancement over the Pebble Steel. Secondly, I want to do more than I can with the Pebble, and without deep integration with the operating system the Pebble will never be able to do as much as the Apple Watch. Thirdly, I find the Pebble's charge connector really irritating, so the Apple Watch is an improvement on that.

I'm not expecting it to be life changing, the Pebble has already shown me why I need a smartwatch, but I think it's a logical evolutionary step up from that.
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April 12, 2015, 09:29:01 PM
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I have a Pebble Steel, had a regular Pebble before that, and I've pre-ordered an Apple Watch. The Pebble has been a great tool, and I rely on it every day. Things like being able to glance at a notification without interrupting a conversation, or quickly reply to a message with a canned response, or use a Pomodoro timer to manage my work.

I'm moving to the Apple Watch for a bunch of reasons. Firstly, I don't like the new Pebble Time interface, and it feels like it's not enough of an advancement over the Pebble Steel. Secondly, I want to do more than I can with the Pebble, and without deep integration with the operating system the Pebble will never be able to do as much as the Apple Watch. Thirdly, I find the Pebble's charge connector really irritating, so the Apple Watch is an improvement on that.

I'm not expecting it to be life changing, the Pebble has already shown me why I need a smartwatch, but I think it's a logical evolutionary step up from that.


Thanks for that.   I'm glad someone who ordered the iwatch chimed in.

This is the first I'm hearing of Pebble / Pebble steel.   Were you part of their kickstarter campaign?

I see it is waterproof (the Apple watch is only water resistant), has that come in handy?

Bigger question, did you ever grow away from having a watch on your wrist?
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April 13, 2015, 12:55:43 AM
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Although I guess things might be different now that Jobs is no longer around, I'd be surprised if their new Watch doesn't do the same. Ever since Apple came out with their colorful iMac G3's in 1998, history has been very kind to Apple so far.
I think the problem is that a lot of people are looking at it from the wrong angle. They are looking at technology and their own usage. They should be thinking about how Apple is positioning the product. Apple isn't there to wow the tech crowd. They are going for "regular people" and will use language that appeals to them.

Will the "iWatch" succeed? I don't know. But I do know that techies don't have the answer to that question.
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April 13, 2015, 06:49:12 PM
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Thanks for that.   I'm glad someone who ordered the iwatch chimed in.

This is the first I'm hearing of Pebble / Pebble steel.   Were you part of their kickstarter campaign?

I see it is waterproof (the Apple watch is only water resistant), has that come in handy?

Bigger question, did you ever grow away from having a watch on your wrist?

I wasn't part of the Kickstarter so I ordered the regular Pebble after it actually came out.

I don't go swimming with the watch...I mean I could if I want, but it's not necessary. I use it in the shower to control the music on my phone that is playing on a Bluetooth speaker, but since I leave the watch on the shelf in the shower it won't make much difference if it's waterproof or water resistant.

I don't understand the last q, you mean before I got a Pebble?
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April 13, 2015, 07:51:33 PM
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Never purchased an Apple product in my life.
Won't be starting with the iWatch.

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