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April 10, 2015, 03:58:27 PM
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I'm curious to know who (especially among Newbies, Jr. and Members) uses a custom "Trust depth". For those wondering it can be changed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust and the default is '2'. Vote.
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April 10, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
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I personally just use default.  It seems to work fine for me.

Only time I go further is if I'm dealing with someone on forum I will manually check all trust.   Other then doing a deal default settings work fine for my uses.
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April 10, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
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Since I trust someone on default so I don't change anything. The second reason is trust system is way to complicated  Grin

If someone use custom trust depth, I think some of them choosing someone inaccurately
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April 10, 2015, 04:48:59 PM
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I've never dipped into the trust system and well and truly can't figure out how it's supposed to work. It all counts for nothing anyway as soon as someone has a funny turn or cashes in the long game they've been playing.

I'd just use the most established escrows and go on how the person who I'm thinking of trusting has acted in the past.
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April 10, 2015, 04:52:01 PM
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I use custom trust list with trust depth 1. I use trust depth 1 because most users in default trust list trust depth 1 will be in trust depth 0 for me and people in default trust list trust depth 2 in trust depth 1. A depth is bumped up.

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If someone use custom trust depth, I think some of them choosing someone inaccurately

People in a custom trust list is the people who he trust. We can't say a person to add/remove people according to our need but it can be done if a person in default trust list add a scammer or a person who abuse trust system.

If you don't want to trust a person who is in trust list of a person you trust, you can add tilde(~) in front of the username and click "update".

For example: You trust Bob and you added him to your trust list but you don't trust Alice who is in Bob's trust list. So you can remove Alice by adding "Alice" to your trust list with tilde as prefix and click update.

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~Alice

Now your trust list will be

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DefaultTrust
Bob
~Alice

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April 10, 2015, 05:32:53 PM
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If I can say my opinion, I am using the normal/standard defaultTrust list withe a  depth level "2". I'm fine with my choice, and I believe in that list.
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April 10, 2015, 05:36:43 PM
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I just use the default. I did one transaction on here and it went smoothly.

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April 10, 2015, 05:46:47 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this
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April 10, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

But at the beginning before you know anyone who would you trust? it would be like ignoring all the ratings
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April 10, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

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April 10, 2015, 06:46:35 PM
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I'm doubting between using depth 2 or depth 3 so more feedback are shown by default, it'd be nice to give more weight to lower depths like x1.5 to level 1, x1 to level 2 and x0.75 to level 3
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April 10, 2015, 07:05:26 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

But at the beginning before you know anyone who would you trust? it would be like ignoring all the ratings

i would trust no one anyway, trust rate doesn't mean that user is 100% safe, maybe you don't know but there was a member called Tradefortress(that was also in the default trust) and had many green +1 and was trusted by many..

this user was running a site for loans, in the end he scammed everyone, he used the most dangerous strategy to do this, by acquiring users confidence for a long time
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April 10, 2015, 07:15:05 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

But at the beginning before you know anyone who would you trust? it would be like ignoring all the ratings

i would trust no one anyway, trust rate doesn't mean that user is 100% safe, maybe you don't know but there was a member called Tradefortress(that was also in the default trust) and had many green +1 and was trusted by many..

this user was running a site for loans, in the end he scammed everyone, he used the most dangerous strategy to do this, by acquiring users confidence for a long time

I think TF got negative trust because of his online wallet service.

Recent best example for this is freidcat. He scammed AMHash and he still has a big green trust.



This trust system isn't 100% secure. You must do your own due diligence. Don't trust a person just because green trust. Look at his feedback and reference case by case. However, you can get a basic idea with this trust system and it helps.

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April 10, 2015, 07:52:08 PM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

But at the beginning before you know anyone who would you trust? it would be like ignoring all the ratings

i would trust no one anyway, trust rate doesn't mean that user is 100% safe, maybe you don't know but there was a member called Tradefortress(that was also in the default trust) and had many green +1 and was trusted by many..

this user was running a site for loans, in the end he scammed everyone, he used the most dangerous strategy to do this, by acquiring users confidence for a long time

I think TF got negative trust because of his online wallet service.

Recent best example for this is freidcat. He scammed AMHash and he still has a big green trust.



This trust system isn't 100% secure. You must do your own due diligence. Don't trust a person just because green trust. Look at his feedback and reference case by case. However, you can get a basic idea with this trust system and it helps.

yeah i know that, but before doing this, he earned the trust of many people, thus making them confident to deposit on his site

it was a diabolic plan since the beginning, TradeFortress is a perfect example, of how you should not trust anyone
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April 11, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
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i left it as default, after trying it at depth level 1, but i don't like this whole thing about default trusted members, trust should be acquire with other users not like this

But at the beginning before you know anyone who would you trust? it would be like ignoring all the ratings

i would trust no one anyway, trust rate doesn't mean that user is 100% safe, maybe you don't know but there was a member called Tradefortress(that was also in the default trust) and had many green +1 and was trusted by many..

this user was running a site for loans, in the end he scammed everyone, he used the most dangerous strategy to do this, by acquiring users confidence for a long time

I didn't know but of course I know nothing is 100% safe however an user with green trust is far less likely to scam than someone with red trust, so until I'm here for more time and realize who to trust I like the default list
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April 11, 2015, 01:06:54 AM
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I use a custom trust depth. I don't trust some members so I just leave it on trust depth 2. It works best for me.
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April 11, 2015, 06:10:13 AM
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Something recently really made me look more at the trust system here.  I have now customized my trust, by adding people that I feel I can trust.  I have also removed some people from my trust by prefacing their username with a tilde (as someone explained earlier).  I am grateful that we can override the trust, on a user by user basis.

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April 11, 2015, 06:16:08 AM
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OP I think that this thread is supposed to be in meta. You're discussing forum features after all.
Something recently really made me look more at the trust system here.  I have now customized my trust, by adding people that I feel I can trust.  I have also removed some people from my trust by prefacing their username with a tilde (as someone explained earlier).  I am grateful that we can override the trust, on a user by user basis.
Indeed. Even though the trust system is flawed itself, that's something that helps out a bit. I don't think that there are many users here who fully customized it.
It just takes work and time which most do not want to spend.

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April 11, 2015, 06:18:17 AM
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Why use a different depth? This would add/remove too many people/ I simply use a modified level 2 trust list. With default trust in but with few additions and removals. I think that this is what everyone should do.

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April 11, 2015, 06:23:59 AM
Last edit: April 11, 2015, 06:58:26 AM by Muhammed Zakir
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Why use a different depth? This would add/remove too many people/ I simply use a modified level 2 trust list. With default trust in but with few additions and removals. I think that this is what everyone should do.

There are many reasons for it. Besides, you should only add people whose judgements you trust. So you shouldn't care how many are/were added/removed.

See my post, fifth post in this thread for knowing why I use depth 1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019798.msg11044739#msg11044739.

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