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June 02, 2015, 07:14:58 AM
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I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling Smiley



I have not went up in freq, I'm happy at level I'm at.  On most of the gear if it underclocks well I have it underclocked and make more because of efficiency.  Some gear does not underclock as well so I run them  different.

So none of this bought me faster, but instead allowed me to mine through summer and hopefully some of the gear will even be profitable during coming winter.   I'm trying to milk as much time from them as I can before someday I sell them.  So I guess it's buying me extra time not extra hash.

I was on the edge of selling or running.  Ended up running.  I did get rid of my S3's and a 1T Dragon before summer though.  Just was not worth the heat to profit ratio to me during summer.
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June 02, 2015, 07:50:32 AM
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I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).  

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling Smiley

I"m running mine full out 325 settings on adv page on asics......with 2 dead dies on orig unit none on second unit getting more then I should expect anyway 650.1mh on putty.exe
the units seem to be like my old Jupiter and LIKE the heat......(probably so they can 'brick' themselves faster)

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I have not went up in freq, I'm happy at level I'm at.  On most of the gear if it underclocks well I have it underclocked and make more because of efficiency.  Some gear does not underclock as well so I run them  different.

So none of this bought me faster, but instead allowed me to mine through summer and hopefully some of the gear will even be profitable during coming winter.   I'm trying to milk as much time from them as I can before someday I sell them.  So I guess it's buying me extra time not extra hash.

I was on the edge of selling or running.  Ended up running.  I did get rid of my S3's and a 1T Dragon before summer though.  Just was not worth the heat to profit ratio to me during summer.

yeah you are probably correct...I hopefully soon (before too hot and too many mosquito's) will TRY to get my arrangement in as well.....the Titan's were originally designed (at least according to what they wanted to push as a warranty (they forgot to change the page oops so it got bumped to 1 year) only 3 months...so gotta figure they are likely to start dying out here soon...got 2 of the beasts 1 no roi no refund 1st unit ..the 2nd titan used unit HAS ROI'd ..it hopefully will pull the 1st unit closer to ROI....so probably will be able to 'cobble" something together if it starts to go to 'pieces' so to speak...but yeah should probably knock the heat down...it is a frigging raspberry pi bare bone 79 buck science project in reality anway imho ..kinda actually surprised it has lasted 7 months for me (the first titan on 6/6/15 anyway) ...knock wood (prob jinxed myself) Smiley

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June 02, 2015, 08:29:09 AM
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yeah you are probably correct...I hopefully soon (before too hot and too many mosquito's) will TRY to get my arrangement in as well.....the Titan's were originally designed (at least according to what they wanted to push as a warranty (they forgot to change the page oops so it got bumped to 1 year) only 3 months...so gotta figure they are likely to start dying out here soon...got 2 of the beasts 1 no roi no refund 1st unit ..the 2nd titan used unit HAS ROI'd ..it hopefully will pull the 1st unit closer to ROI....so probably will be able to 'cobble" something together if it starts to go to 'pieces' so to speak...but yeah should probably knock the heat down...it is a frigging raspberry pi bare bone 79 buck science project in reality anway imho ..kinda actually surprised it has lasted 7 months for me (the first titan on 6/6/15 anyway) ...knock wood (prob jinxed myself) Smiley

stuff to do always stuff to do


KNC is one compay I have never had a miner from.  I wish I would have tried it once.  I really like their design of the boxes connected together.    I was always scared off by reading horror stories.  And I know how you feel on the 3 month warranty.  I paid for one controller board once and figured out Asics are not like GPU's.  During GPU day's I had 1 year at least and some were multi year warranty.  It was crazy long.  I know it seemed like I had a card being RMA'ed at any time as I pushed pretty hard.  And I could not believe how good their warranty's were.

I love mining just really gets addicting.  I'm happy I picked to keep going during summer.  Even though it was challenging and seemed like endless amounts spent on fans.
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June 02, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
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I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.

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June 02, 2015, 03:46:55 PM
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I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.

Very nice setup.  Thank you for sharing it.    Very clean look to it.

I'm jealous of the evaporation cooling.  The humidity in weather leaves me with regular AC.... so my miners will not be getting AC.
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June 02, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
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I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.

Very nice setup.  Thank you for sharing it.    Very clean look to it.

I'm jealous of the evaporation cooling.  The humidity in weather leaves me with regular AC.... so my miners will not be getting AC.

You're welcome m8, if it can save another miner a few more bucks in cooling costs then, I'm happy I can help.
The miners (except S1) are all in line with the window, that's why all the wood.
I figure that, once I run out of window room, I'll have been out of breakers to use.

That said, miners themselves remove a lot of humidity in a room, so an evaporative air cooler is like a humidifier too.
The humidity here is about 65% year round but it's about 30% in my mine's office.
Kill two stones with one bird so to say... I live beside Lake Superior, it's humid here too lol
Evaporative air coolers are cheap, some of them are around $100 or so.

That said, here's a link for miners interested in getting the same blower... it's on sale at Amazon right now too.

http://amzn.to/1ALxSGd

PS: You're right, mining is addictive.  My modem died last week and took a week to get a new one... for that week waiting, I felt like a part of me was missing, or had departed.  Not as bad as nicotine withdrawals but maybe, just as sad.

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June 03, 2015, 12:36:35 AM
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2905 CMF  Shocked

Thats a lot of air!  Grin

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!

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2905 CMF  Shocked

Thats a lot of air!  Grin

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!


With my area it's normal AC's.  So the fan's even though not greatest energy efficiency beat running a regular AC unit by a lot on money.  I'm jealous of the one's that meet evaporation cooling requirements. 

Today was in 80's.  Hottest day for me yet this summer.  Miners kept going no issues.  So hoping this trend continues for all summer.  Instead of big fan getting the temp gauge I think I will re purpose old gable fan to push air out through a regular vent if it get's over a certain very hot temp.   The problem is I need to add some guards on it to make it safe.  Don't want a gable fan falling down whenn spinning.
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June 04, 2015, 07:08:13 PM
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2905 CMF  Shocked

Thats a lot of air!  Grin

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!


With my area it's normal AC's.  So the fan's even though not greatest energy efficiency beat running a regular AC unit by a lot on money.  I'm jealous of the one's that meet evaporation cooling requirements. 

Today was in 80's.  Hottest day for me yet this summer.  Miners kept going no issues.  So hoping this trend continues for all summer.  Instead of big fan getting the temp gauge I think I will re purpose old gable fan to push air out through a regular vent if it get's over a certain very hot temp.   The problem is I need to add some guards on it to make it safe.  Don't want a gable fan falling down whenn spinning.

It's been a cool summer for me so far... today was around 60F and hottest temps in the mine being around 90F, which is normal for me.
I use the S4 as a gauge... when it hits 65C, hit the blower until it drops down to 55C.

Put it this way, at 430 watts, I don't need to run it for long, 5-10 minutes maybe once or twice a day Wink
This sucker moves a lot of air so it needs a way to get its air flow coming from another room during summer.

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June 04, 2015, 08:04:34 PM
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I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  Grin

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I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  Grin

It's pretty amazing how a proper cooling system can make a big difference.  With no evaporation cooling I use air trying to blow the hot air out.  So far working good and was in mid 80's here as well today.

Looking like I will make it through summer.  Which was my goal, so I'm very happy.
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I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  Grin

I still have one left.  with 1 guard .   I will only charge shipping for it.

anyone need it let me know?  wife wants an empty house.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTON-4YD82-Fan-Guard-Steel-8-3-4d-/381021634273?


I think this grill fits it.

I also have 7 of these fans

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EBM-THERMALLY-PROTECTED-40-WATT-FAN-W2S130-AA25-44-/121586109922

this grill fits them


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Tried another fan today - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32
Utilitech Pro 24-in 2-Speed High Velocity Fan


It is a medium sized fan at 24 inches.  It is rated very high cfm for its size: 7860.

I put one of these in area I plan on putting miners in.   Tested one out it does put out a heck of a lot of air.  I could feel it move air a good amount farther then other fan above.  And it still has a non-electrical switch that if power is knocked out it will come back on same speed.

Update on the fan's.  One is still working perfect the other the fan burnt out.  Odd it burnt out during winter and not during summer... but it did.

Was a pain turns out it's a lowes only brand.  They will tell you they only do in store help on 3 months with fans, even though they have a 1 year warranty.... but it's a lowes only product.   Your first trip there to see if they have replacement and get phone number the employees will be of no help after 3 months they could care less.

Just incase anyone else go through this call the number they give you for warranty if it's summer likely you ship in the motor, they ship you back a new one.  But if it's winter... they don't produce them so no new motors.   I had to get someone at corporate and a reference number and name and extension which they will give.  With that you can go to store and if they don't have the fan they can credit it on lowes giftcard most likely. 

So they were out of the 24 inch fan.  I ended up going up to the 36 inch model - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416731-11292-SFDC-900F___?productId=4755307 . It was very slim pickings on fan's so I decided as long as it was more CFM I was happy even though I dipped a little out of pocket.   But come summer I should have this 12000 cfm beast pushing some serious air.

But for anyone reading this the key if you have same trouble is getting the reference number and persons name and extension.  With all that the store pretty much goes from a stern no to "Ohhh crap he talked to corporate what can we do to help?"
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December 13, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
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This works for me (i think i posted more details in this thread farther back)

lostgonzo.imgur.com

have a push fan accross basement pushes air in (photos) and a shutter fan arrangement the pushes it out (hot air rises ...a small wind accross the basement ceiling) Smiley

worked ok on the Titans...now it is winter so no issue (mild winter not using any gas at all on the house ..weird....mining for free heat is FUN!....)

Anyway for what it is worth. You can see from the shutter fan arrangement I did not plan the miner bench correctly (right under other windows) thus from
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Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

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Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

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ok i just got in at this

http://www.lowes.com/

 just saying Smiley

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Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

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ok i just got in at this

http://www.lowes.com/

 just saying Smiley

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On lowes I'm not sure how they get them but there is always 10 percent of order over X.   I used one coupon I bought a bit back.

I can't wait to turn it on tomorrow and see how the 12k CFM are.   On a side note I had one I got at a different retailer don't believe what all manufactures say on CFM's.  Called them up they act like they look it up... 7500 CFM they said so not bad.  But it was closer to 4k CFM if that.  So It made it complicated returning another fan.
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Ok went ahead and installed to test it out. Yes I know it's winter Smiley but I wanted to test out for next summer or possibly turning off some other ones and using this.  I can say 24 inch to 36 inch is a LOT bigger.  Does not seem to big till you get it home.... and realize you have a beast.


But it puts out a ton of CFM's.   This is a Lowes only brand but really they seem to make this series for very high CFM which is good for miners.
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