US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2)

[Amph]

It always amaze me, why so many people want to see dollar collapse? We are not ready for that kind of scenario, and unfortunately we wont be in the near future. Some of us may not like USA but the in the modern world are set drastic drop in dollar is dungarees for everybody. The The global economy is very linked so on one end something goes wrong, the same thing will happen on the other side, just wit a little lag.

those are the one that think that if the dollars collapse bitcoin will skyrocket, well i don't want to destroy their dreams, but it does not work in this way

dollar collapsing will not increase bitcoin price, will only make another fiat stronger and bitcoin will still be enslaved to that fiat

[Pab]

US dollar is USA national currency,USA will rather not collapse
By my opinion it is much more about modern economy system than only about US dollar
Now currency is not dollar or euro,currency is debt,massive printing in USA now huge printing in Europe
in real economy world it has to cause inflation

Now Europe is printing becouse likke Draghi is saying there is deflation,USA is saying thay has stop to print

Last economy date are showing that USA economy do not growth,however thhere is not huge inflation yet

Some economist see that inflation already arriived to USA,so what now,rise rates not good becouse no growth and what will be if will be inflation,answer rise rate,in europe,no economic growth

So finally tell me how really is,weare not living in real economu we are living in virtual economy,maybe that is that famous NWO

There is one thing,ordinary people pay for that,in some moment it can be enough,there isalready enough

I only hope that crash collapse will be not cured by creating next wars

[mrhelpful]

Wouldnt they keep on getting aid by other foreign central banks?

Since its based on the same system in general, only since because they too are heavily invested by the dollar they wouldnt want it to collapse. And true capitalism does let it collapse, so this system we have no is more of a socialist one then anything else.

[azguard]

I don't think US dollar will collapse in 2015. US dollor in the rising time, it will break 100 in the end of the summer.

I agree that the US dollar won't collapse in 2015. Its demise will be slow and gradual in the future.
What is the 100 you are talking about?

No this is stable value this year euro and swiss frank are off.
So i wont expect for dollar to collapse not this year.

[GreenStox]

I don't think US dollar will collapse in 2015. US dollor in the rising time, it will break 100 in the end of the summer.

I agree that the US dollar won't collapse in 2015. Its demise will be slow and gradual in the future.
What is the 100 you are talking about?

No this is stable value this year euro and swiss frank are off.
So i wont expect for dollar to collapse not this year.

There will be calamities in the market in Q3 this year. Will the USD collapse, i dont think so, but it is possible.

The global bond market is on an edge now, and the bond market is the only leg that this stool called the USD has, once the saw comes and cuts this leg too, the USD will collapse.

But until the printing press is rolling, and bonds are bought by CBs, not a chance.

[mrhelpful]

The only way I see it really did collapse, is if the foreign reserves go with china.

We seem to always stay strong, since most of the other foreign investors have their own reserves in us dollars. But, not that long ago, china bought a lot of metals and gold. Biggest export, they become more and more ready to literally say screw u.s dollars.

The age of chinas potential as a world reserve currency is tilting I feel.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-18/9-signs-china-making-move-against-us-dollar

[Sourgummies]

2 more years at earliest,dominoes still not all in a row. Just got off phone with Ted Turner and he said he would send jet for me when it all goes sour.

What currency are people going to run to when the globe goes topside? If there is nothing else set up to run the show,then we got business as usual till then.

[GreenStox]

The only way I see it really did collapse, is if the foreign reserves go with china.

We seem to always stay strong, since most of the other foreign investors have their own reserves in us dollars. But, not that long ago, china bought a lot of metals and gold. Biggest export, they become more and more ready to literally say screw u.s dollars.

The age of chinas potential as a world reserve currency is tilting I feel.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-18/9-signs-china-making-move-against-us-dollar

Yea but that Moscow - Bejing partnership deal will take a few more years to develop, even if they finish the CIPS (pronounced chips, the alternative to the globalist-masonic SWIFT system)

Plus the tapering of US bonds of China cant be done too quickly because China still profits massively from US imports.


So the only way US will collapse if China will find new export partners to collaborate with. I already see China - EU deals too, but it will take some time.

For the moment both US and China need eachother.

[techgeek]

Yeah, I def see China and USA still needing each other despite what the person above me posted.

I`m sure its going to take more time, and I noticed that article posted is 2013.

2 years later, it seems we still do business with china lol. Zerohedge is a good site though.

[GreenStox]

Yeah, I def see China and USA still needing each other despite what the person above me posted.

I`m sure its going to take more time, and I noticed that article posted is 2013.

2 years later, it seems we still do business with china lol. Zerohedge is a good site though.

Zerohedge is a bit sensationalist, but i cant blame them, all alternative media is like that, which is good, there has to be a better way to wake up the sheeple, because the wolf is coming.

But as the next crisis happens, i think China will unload its balance sheet, there is no way China will stay through the next crisis, as they can buy up any land later on when the prices crash. No need for bailouts anymore.

[azguard]

I don't think US dollar will collapse in 2015. US dollor in the rising time, it will break 100 in the end of the summer.

I agree that the US dollar won't collapse in 2015. Its demise will be slow and gradual in the future.
What is the 100 you are talking about?

No this is stable value this year euro and swiss frank are off.
So i wont expect for dollar to collapse not this year.

There will be calamities in the market in Q3 this year. Will the USD collapse, i dont think so, but it is possible.

The global bond market is on an edge now, and the bond market is the only leg that this stool called the USD has, once the saw comes and cuts this leg too, the USD will collapse.

But until the printing press is rolling, and bonds are bought by CBs, not a chance.

ou think that this is cuz some bank is US are pronounced guilty on raisin there interest.
Think that this will cause dollar to fall?

Or you think that this will happen.
Hope it wont cuz seem like its only stable from all others.

[AtheistAKASaneBrain]

I like ZH, it's like Infowars but without all the super insane rants of Alex Jones, which are good within itself for comedic value but detracts from the information which sometimes is good.

[GreenStox]

I don't think US dollar will collapse in 2015. US dollor in the rising time, it will break 100 in the end of the summer.

I agree that the US dollar won't collapse in 2015. Its demise will be slow and gradual in the future.
What is the 100 you are talking about?

No this is stable value this year euro and swiss frank are off.
So i wont expect for dollar to collapse not this year.

There will be calamities in the market in Q3 this year. Will the USD collapse, i dont think so, but it is possible.

The global bond market is on an edge now, and the bond market is the only leg that this stool called the USD has, once the saw comes and cuts this leg too, the USD will collapse.

But until the printing press is rolling, and bonds are bought by CBs, not a chance.

ou think that this is cuz some bank is US are pronounced guilty on raisin there interest.
Think that this will cause dollar to fall?

Or you think that this will happen.
Hope it wont cuz seem like its only stable from all others.

They wont and cant raise interest rates. Because the banks have too much leverage, and also the government has also too much debt.

It has been calculated that with a 5% interest rate the US will go bankrupt instantly. So no chance they raise interest rates.

[victoryboy]

US dollar will collapse but not so quickly and as easily as we think.I think the reason will be Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in next few years.

[GreenStox]

US dollar will collapse but not so quickly and as easily as we think.I think the reason will be Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in next few years.

I disagree, i dont think bitcoin will collapse the dollar, we give far too much credit for bitcoin.

The USD has been on decline now for over 30 years, and its a much bigger macro-economic problem:  global debt.

The bondage that CB around the world, under the leadership of the BIS, IMF and World Bank, has cast upon us. It's a curse. 

[boopy265420]

US Dollar is very strong although its value goes up/down but there is a socio-economic agreement among nations to keep at least one currency active for international trades.US Dollar will not collapse totally but in future there will be more than one currencies to be dealt with in international market.US Dollar can not collapse so easy as people say there is a long way to reach till here.US Dollar will not collapse in 2015 not even in 2016.

[GreenStox]

US Dollar is very strong although its value goes up/down but there is a socio-economic agreement among nations to keep at least one currency active for international trades.US Dollar will not collapse totally but in future there will be more than one currencies to be dealt with in international market.US Dollar can not collapse so easy as people say there is a long way to reach till here.US Dollar will not collapse in 2015 not even in 2016.

The US dollar will collapse when the US bond market will collapse, they are tied together very strongly.

And the bond markets globally are now way overvalued. The 30 year bull market has to have a correction at some point, and unfortunately that correction will be a collapse.

In 1-2 years we will see that, that is certain.

[GreenStox]

US Dollar is very strong although its value goes up/down but there is a socio-economic agreement among nations to keep at least one currency active for international trades.US Dollar will not collapse totally but in future there will be more than one currencies to be dealt with in international market.US Dollar can not collapse so easy as people say there is a long way to reach till here.US Dollar will not collapse in 2015 not even in 2016.

The US dollar will collapse when the US bond market will collapse, they are tied together very strongly.

And the bond markets globally are now way overvalued. The 30 year bull market has to have a correction at some point, and unfortunately that correction will be a collapse.

In 1-2 years we will see that, that is certain.

What do you count as a collapse because there is no way we will see it go to a value like the deutschmark did in world war II, if you mean a 50% buying power drop then under extreme circumstances maybe but a full collapse of the USD is in no way 1-2 years out.

Exactly, we already see the purchasing power go down, it's just that it's obfuscated by the popularity of credit cards.

Everyone uses credit cards now, so the velocity of transaction is fast, giving the impression that inflation is tamed, when in fact it's not.

Bank savings drop every single year, the interest rate too, businesses go bankrupt at a record high, and the only thing that grows is inflation.


Now i dont know how much longer can the traders be fooled that the USD is strong, since it's so embedded in the global economy (petrodollar and commodity)

But sooner or later, it will have a 90* drop, after, atleast China develops a similar financial infrastructure, see CIPS
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/09/us-china-yuan-payments-exclusive-idUSKBN0M50BV20150309

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[GreenStox]

US Dollar is very strong although its value goes up/down but there is a socio-economic agreement among nations to keep at least one currency active for international trades.US Dollar will not collapse totally but in future there will be more than one currencies to be dealt with in international market.US Dollar can not collapse so easy as people say there is a long way to reach till here.US Dollar will not collapse in 2015 not even in 2016.

The US dollar will collapse when the US bond market will collapse, they are tied together very strongly.

And the bond markets globally are now way overvalued. The 30 year bull market has to have a correction at some point, and unfortunately that correction will be a collapse.

In 1-2 years we will see that, that is certain.

What do you count as a collapse because there is no way we will see it go to a value like the deutschmark did in world war II, if you mean a 50% buying power drop then under extreme circumstances maybe but a full collapse of the USD is in no way 1-2 years out.

Exactly, we already see the purchasing power go down, it's just that it's obfuscated by the popularity of credit cards.

Everyone uses credit cards now, so the velocity of transaction is fast, giving the impression that inflation is tamed, when in fact it's not.

Bank savings drop every single year, the interest rate too, businesses go bankrupt at a record high, and the only thing that grows is inflation.


Now i dont know how much longer can the traders be fooled that the USD is strong, since it's so embedded in the global economy (petrodollar and commodity)

But sooner or later, it will have a 90* drop, after, atleast China develops a similar financial infrastructure, see CIPS
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/09/us-china-yuan-payments-exclusive-idUSKBN0M50BV20150309

The purchasing power drops due to inflation but for the last year it has been up and China is having an economic crisis right now and is trying to keep their production and labor economy up. I don't think there is much to worry about.

Yes the BRICS have problems too, i dont deny that, but whatever problem China has, the Western World has 1000x worse.

The ponzi scheme is global.

[PICTURES]

Yep, thats why the European Central Bank counterfeits 1.6 trillion euros to pump those toxic bond markets up. If they collapse, we can say bye-bye to the EUR, thus eventually to the petro-dollar too.

The FED will soon start QE4 aswell, the ECB can't counterfeit all by itself, it's too hard burden for Europe.

Show an UK and Italy and France bond pictures too, i`m curious about them