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April 12, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
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But, I think the escrow may wait 24 hours before doing anything with the funds. And where will the funds go? If there is something extra you can always tip something to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631 Smiley
I will wait a day or so and then start to PM participants that they can remove their signature ife they so choose. The signature has only been up for a day or so, therefore it was likely not very effective/useful for them.

The funds belong to the OP so if there are any excess funds will need to be returned to the OP, otherwise I am scamming them. If they don't give me an address to return the funds to after some amount of time then I am not sure what I will do.

Shouldn't you seize them? I know that it would probably not be a good idea to police things yourself but if CryptoSplit did indeed scam, funds shouldn't be returned to the scammers.
Sieze them for what? I am not going to engage in asset forfeiture. Seizing bitcoin would set a precedent that it is not safe for scammers to use escrow which would give them a legit reason to refuse escrow which would make it easier for them to scam after they have been outed as a scammer.

Scammers won't/don't use escrows. That would not make them scammers (for the particular trade).

It is already not safe for scammers to use escrow.. Read my sentence above.

You wouldn't be setting any precedent.
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April 12, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
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But, I think the escrow may wait 24 hours before doing anything with the funds. And where will the funds go? If there is something extra you can always tip something to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631 Smiley
I will wait a day or so and then start to PM participants that they can remove their signature ife they so choose. The signature has only been up for a day or so, therefore it was likely not very effective/useful for them.

The funds belong to the OP so if there are any excess funds will need to be returned to the OP, otherwise I am scamming them. If they don't give me an address to return the funds to after some amount of time then I am not sure what I will do.

Shouldn't you seize them? I know that it would probably not be a good idea to police things yourself but if CryptoSplit did indeed scam, funds shouldn't be returned to the scammers.
Sieze them for what? I am not going to engage in asset forfeiture. Seizing bitcoin would set a precedent that it is not safe for scammers to use escrow which would give them a legit reason to refuse escrow which would make it easier for them to scam after they have been outed as a scammer.

Scammers won't/don't use escrows. That would not make them scammers (for the particular trade).

It is already not safe for scammers to use escrow.. Read my sentence above.

You wouldn't be setting any precedent.


+1 on that. Quickseller returning to OP will not make any difference oo what a scammer will do in the future. Smiley

I'd say donate the extra funds. Smiley
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April 12, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
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But, I think the escrow may wait 24 hours before doing anything with the funds. And where will the funds go? If there is something extra you can always tip something to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631 Smiley
I will wait a day or so and then start to PM participants that they can remove their signature ife they so choose. The signature has only been up for a day or so, therefore it was likely not very effective/useful for them.

The funds belong to the OP so if there are any excess funds will need to be returned to the OP, otherwise I am scamming them. If they don't give me an address to return the funds to after some amount of time then I am not sure what I will do.

Shouldn't you seize them? I know that it would probably not be a good idea to police things yourself but if CryptoSplit did indeed scam, funds shouldn't be returned to the scammers.
Sieze them for what? I am not going to engage in asset forfeiture. Seizing bitcoin would set a precedent that it is not safe for scammers to use escrow which would give them a legit reason to refuse escrow which would make it easier for them to scam after they have been outed as a scammer.

Scammers won't/don't use escrows. That would not make them scammers (for the particular trade).

It is already not safe for scammers to use escrow.. Read my sentence above.

You wouldn't be setting any precedent.
If someone has scammed in the past then they are a scammer. That does not mean that they will never attempt to trade honestly in the future. Look at KingOfSports for example, he scammed 2 BTC then for years frequently traded in the currency exchange section with escrow (likely to fund his gambling habit) before he seemingly disappeared.

If a scammer wants to use escrow for a trade to prove it will actually go through then they should be able to do so.

Plus if the option is there to use escrow for a scammer then anyone considering doing business with them will know not to conduct any deals with them if they are refusing escrow. If a scammer outright refuses escrow and has a legit explanation as to why they will not accept escrow then people considering to trade with them might be willing to send first

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April 13, 2015, 12:13:50 AM
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April 13, 2015, 12:20:55 AM
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Enrolling...

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Payment Address: 1HVMLBB9eAE65NNqrY9FAjRnK5ZYL7BvVe

I'm looking for fixed campaign

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Thank you
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Please let me know if im in thank you Smiley
Enrolling to fixed term.
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So all I need is to make 15 posts(at least) in a week and follow the rule, and the payment is 0.075BTC weekly?
I am in the process of sending out PM's to participants with offers to remove their signature. Please do not further edit nor remove your enrollment post.

edit: PM's have been sent to all participants with offers to be allowed to removed their signature for a prorated payment. I offered the greater of the percentage of time they have been wearing the signature or the percentage of required posts they have made.

The pro rated offer amount is not going to change unless I have made a calculation mistake.

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April 13, 2015, 12:51:57 AM
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i accept that offer and removed signature
Thanks for getting back to me. (I also got your PM). I will send payment to everyone that accepts my offer within 24 hours so I only need to make one payment.

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April 13, 2015, 01:53:10 AM
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signature removed and PM back

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April 13, 2015, 02:01:25 AM
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It's an obvious ponzi scam, quickseller next time don't escrow for this kind of obvious scam.

And you guys don't join ponzi scam signature campaign next time, or you are helping ponzi scammers.
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April 13, 2015, 03:47:23 AM
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i accept that offer and removed signature
Thanks for getting back to me. (I also got your PM). I will send payment to everyone that accepts my offer within 24 hours so I only need to make one payment.

I accept the offer, thank you for your great job, QuickSeller.
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April 13, 2015, 03:53:32 AM
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It's an obvious ponzi scam, quickseller next time don't escrow for this kind of obvious scam.

And you guys don't join ponzi scam signature campaign next time, or you are helping ponzi scammers.
The choice was that either the OP scams everyone (including signature campaign participants), or the OP ends up scamming his investors/customers who should know the risks of investing, and who by a very reputable person's description are "greedy morons". Additionally anyone considering to invest in the OP's site were previously warned that he is a scammer/running a scam site

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April 13, 2015, 06:23:52 AM
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Im out too and thanks Quickseller for dealing with this


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April 13, 2015, 06:33:04 AM
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I want to enroll.

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Please confirm.
Enrollment is closed. I am not going to pay any additional people that sign up as they have already scammed.

If you attempt to join then you will not be using any kind of escrow and would be relying on someone who has already scammed to pay you (in other words you are most likely not going to get paid)

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April 13, 2015, 01:53:43 PM
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But, I think the escrow may wait 24 hours before doing anything with the funds. And where will the funds go? If there is something extra you can always tip something to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631 Smiley
I will wait a day or so and then start to PM participants that they can remove their signature ife they so choose. The signature has only been up for a day or so, therefore it was likely not very effective/useful for them.

The funds belong to the OP so if there are any excess funds will need to be returned to the OP, otherwise I am scamming them. If they don't give me an address to return the funds to after some amount of time then I am not sure what I will do.

Shouldn't you seize them? I know that it would probably not be a good idea to police things yourself but if CryptoSplit did indeed scam, funds shouldn't be returned to the scammers.
Sieze them for what? I am not going to engage in asset forfeiture. Seizing bitcoin would set a precedent that it is not safe for scammers to use escrow which would give them a legit reason to refuse escrow which would make it easier for them to scam after they have been outed as a scammer.

Scammers won't/don't use escrows. That would not make them scammers (for the particular trade).

It is already not safe for scammers to use escrow.. Read my sentence above.

You wouldn't be setting any precedent.

Tomatocage was the escrow in the supposed trading of KingofSports account. He didn't have any trouble letting a known scammer profit so that he can make some  money.

If Quickseller here seizes the funds that would be laudable, and will be the right thing to do after he willingly became the escrow of this campaign even while being aware that it was a scam.
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April 13, 2015, 10:18:45 PM
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Everyone except CoinFriend has been paid their prorated amount via txid 97511b951af19e5dede8f53c24e07668b4027b09ecf9f66a158070e24cd0cc08. CoinFriend has not yet gotten back to me regarding if he wants to accept the offer to receive a prorated payment, he has until one minute prior to one week from the time the OP was created )Aug 18 2015 at 3:19 PM, forum time), otherwise he will be evaluated based on if he made enough posts as of the above time and will receive payment accordingly.

If you feel that everything went smoothly and was handled professionally then feel free to leave trust feedback, and/or post a review on my escrow thread, and/or leave me a tip at the escrow fee address for this campaign (1AWgc2RCry4hk1VAG1EzQ52uQD4k8Pqqfc).

If CryptoSplit wants to contact me with what he wants me to do with the remaining funds then I will dispose of the funds as per his direction. My escrow agreement was to charge him .03 plus 3% of the amount held every payment period and will continue charging that until I receive direction.

If they don't post, delete any posts or PM me in a week then I will find out if they are banned and if so I will figure something else out.

edit: the CryptoSplit account has 38 posts as of now

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April 14, 2015, 08:48:49 AM
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wow funny, like to read this all...
Seems that the April fools are not finished today.
Yeah, there is so much to laugh!

As little example, about the offer via PM, your last post and also this part I laughed very fine:

I am in the process of sending out PM's to participants with offers to remove their signature. Please do not further edit nor remove your enrollment post.

edit: PM's have been sent to all participants with offers to be allowed to removed their signature for a prorated payment. I offered the greater of the percentage of time they have been wearing the signature or the percentage of required posts they have made.

The pro rated offer amount is not going to change unless I have made a calculation mistake.

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Finally, i prefer to speak less words.
I found a mistake and send you a PM now.

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April 16, 2015, 11:04:24 AM
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What will you do with the remaining balance?
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April 16, 2015, 01:01:31 PM
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What will you do with the remaining balance?

It should belong to people who were scammed by CryptoSplit.com, But I doubt QuickSeller will do that.
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April 16, 2015, 01:27:14 PM
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What will you do with the remaining balance?

It should belong to people who were scammed by CryptoSplit.com, But I doubt QuickSeller will do that.

I suggested to donate to Dabs feed the children address instead. But he said, it will encourage future scams to not use escrow?

That wouldn't be a good idea though, since the scam amount would be very high, and it will be difficult to keep track of real claims from fake calms, etc. I would rule it out.
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April 16, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
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If CryptoSplit wants to contact me with what he wants me to do with the remaining funds then I will dispose of the funds as per his direction. My escrow agreement was to charge him .03 plus 3% of the amount held every payment period and will continue charging that until I receive direction.

I am not going to seize their funds. That would be scamming and would prefer that no one have a legit claim that I scammed them 

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April 16, 2015, 01:45:06 PM
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If CryptoSplit wants to contact me with what he wants me to do with the remaining funds then I will dispose of the funds as per his direction. My escrow agreement was to charge him .03 plus 3% of the amount held every payment period and will continue charging that until I receive direction.

I am not going to seize their funds. That would be scamming and would prefer that no one have a legit claim that I scammed them 

Fair enough. How about donating your fee (of 0.03 and 3%) that you take every week directly to a charity? Until, if you ever do, receive direction.
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