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April 13, 2015, 11:00:46 PM
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Of course you are mad about this topic, since by looking at your trust, you are on of these ponzi owners Wink

Exactly. It's fun to see which users don't like this post:




I was one of the developers of the old and premier PONZI TGB, so what? It naturally collapsed after 250 BTC input.
We didn't scam any of the users, don't talk bullshits please.
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April 13, 2015, 11:13:25 PM
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Hopefully you get it sticked!!! so many people still knowing what they are still send btc than end up back here complaining. about scams.

This will be a helpful reminder to some.  Cry
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April 14, 2015, 03:17:57 PM
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Of course you are mad about this topic, since by looking at your trust, you are on of these ponzi owners Wink

Exactly. It's fun to see which users don't like this post:




I was one of the developers of the old and premier PONZI TGB, so what? It naturally collapsed after 250 BTC input.
We didn't scam any of the users, don't talk bullshits please.

So what ? Read first page please.
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April 14, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
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price is dropping for bitcoin, so those who got scammed, can buy back in at another chance lol.

so it wouldnt be that much of a loss to them.
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April 14, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
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price is dropping for bitcoin, so those who got scammed, can buy back in at another chance lol.

so it wouldnt be that much of a loss to them.

That makes no sense ... stop spamming with nonsense like this.
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April 14, 2015, 11:16:28 PM
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Bump. This section really grinds my gears Angry

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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April 16, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
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This needs to be on 1st page.  Wink
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April 17, 2015, 12:09:57 AM
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The fact that you think these sites are true ponzis shows how ignorant you are. Like the description says, they are "investor based games that require new entries to pay out the old entries." it's nothing more than gambling. I do agree that SOME are scams because they run, but any gambling site can do the same.

Sticky the thread that rates these sites, that would be useful.
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April 17, 2015, 12:13:00 AM
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The fact that you think these sites are true ponzis shows how ignorant you are. Like the description says, they are "investor based games that require new entries to pay out the old entries." it's nothing more than gambling. I do agree that SOME are scams because they run, but any gambling site can do the same.

Sticky the thread that rates these sites, that would be useful.

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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors

So you're confirming they're Ponzi, right?
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April 17, 2015, 02:18:40 AM
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The fact that you think these sites are true ponzis shows how ignorant you are. Like the description says, they are "investor based games that require new entries to pay out the old entries." it's nothing more than gambling. I do agree that SOME are scams because they run, but any gambling site can do the same.

Sticky the thread that rates these sites, that would be useful.

Wikipedia says:
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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors

So you're confirming they're Ponzi, right?

Close but not correct, a real ponzi is done without the investors knowledge.  These sites show you the rules up front.  You are simply trying to get in first so the subsequent entries pay you out.  Every gambling method has winners and losers.
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April 17, 2015, 02:22:07 AM
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If what your title says is true, lets petition to remove this whole section.  I'd actually vote for it!
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April 17, 2015, 02:28:15 AM
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The fact that you think these sites are true ponzis shows how ignorant you are. Like the description says, they are "investor based games that require new entries to pay out the old entries." it's nothing more than gambling. I do agree that SOME are scams because they run, but any gambling site can do the same.

Sticky the thread that rates these sites, that would be useful.

Wikipedia says:
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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors

So you're confirming they're Ponzi, right?

Close but not correct, a real ponzi is done without the investors knowledge.  These sites show you the rules up front.  You are simply trying to get in first so the subsequent entries pay you out.  Every gambling method has winners and losers.

Every single site that pays investors with the money of new investors (instead of money it produces) is a Ponzi. Check the Wikipedia link I posted and the image of OP if you're still not clear on that.

However Ponzi is not always the same as scam. I think that's what you mean here. If a site is transparent, shows a warning saying it's a Ponzi and a list of transactions so users can estimate how things are going then I don't think it's a scam, it's a high risk game. But it's still a Ponzi of course and everyone in this section must be aware of that and make well informed decisions.

If a Ponzi hides the fact it's a Ponzi then it's definitely a scam. Also the problem in this section is that even when a Ponzi is advertised as a Ponzi it is handled by untrusted users who can run with the money at any time.
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April 17, 2015, 11:31:11 AM
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The fact that you think these sites are true ponzis shows how ignorant you are. Like the description says, they are "investor based games that require new entries to pay out the old entries." it's nothing more than gambling. I do agree that SOME are scams because they run, but any gambling site can do the same.

Sticky the thread that rates these sites, that would be useful.

Wikipedia says:
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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors

So you're confirming they're Ponzi, right?

Close but not correct, a real ponzi is done without the investors knowledge.  These sites show you the rules up front.  You are simply trying to get in first so the subsequent entries pay you out.  Every gambling method has winners and losers.

Every single site that pays investors with the money of new investors (instead of money it produces) is a Ponzi. Check the Wikipedia link I posted and the image of OP if you're still not clear on that.

However Ponzi is not always the same as scam. I think that's what you mean here. If a site is transparent, shows a warning saying it's a Ponzi and a list of transactions so users can estimate how things are going then I don't think it's a scam, it's a high risk game. But it's still a Ponzi of course and everyone in this section must be aware of that and make well informed decisions.

If a Ponzi hides the fact it's a Ponzi then it's definitely a scam. Also the problem in this section is that even when a Ponzi is advertised as a Ponzi it is handled by untrusted users who can run with the money at any time.


First of all a Ponzi scheme is pure scam when:
1. Hidden hidden behind fake investments, fake revenue and fake promises.
2. Stops paying with no reason, running away with the funds.
3. Hosted in a territory where Ponzi scheme is illegal.
4. Using FIAT currency. Bitcoin isn't a good and neither a service in most of the countries.
And many others that I'm not going to explain you right now..

Real scams are based on deception!
And yes, I work for Ponzi programs, sell softwares, offer services and much more sustaining them. I'm logged with my real identity and in many other forums it is already public.
We call it next generation of gambling.
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April 17, 2015, 07:12:27 PM
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what's this, the next scam thread full of lies?
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April 18, 2015, 06:17:39 AM
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Just let people know what ponzi games are really about from their own mistakes. If they lose almost all their money in these they will understand. It is a more effective process then telling them what to do.

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April 18, 2015, 02:55:32 PM
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I think ponzi schemes are the most spread in the forum


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April 18, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
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I think ponzi schemes are the most spread in the forum

Yeah absolute a lot of ponzi schemes...
Would be interesting to know how many different individuals own/run how one or more ponzi websites...

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April 18, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
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There is no sticky thread in this section, this should be the first one, or we need to bump this thread everytime as reminder to newcomers.

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April 18, 2015, 04:20:17 PM
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I think ponzi schemes are the most spread in the forum

Yeah absolute a lot of ponzi schemes...
Would be interesting to know how many different individuals own/run how one or more ponzi websites...


CoinFriend, no offense, but why you have still in your signature the f.. bastards?! they still paying you?

 
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April 18, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
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I think ponzi schemes are the most spread in the forum

Yeah absolute a lot of ponzi schemes...
Would be interesting to know how many different individuals own/run how one or more ponzi websites...


CoinFriend, no offense, but why you have still in your signature the f.. bastards?! they still paying you?


Lucky, you are the first one who ask this...

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