Quickseller, trust abuse, innacurate negative ratings, unprofesional escrow...

[peligro]

Quickseller had given negative rating to girlbtc.com which he removed while trying to become escrow.

I would like to publicly state that I was asked to give a price on how much it would cost to escrow this signature campaign. I gave the OP a quote and I will follow up by editing this post if/when escrow is funded to pay all participants.

Since you still have one negative red on girlbtc account, so I think they will let you to be the escrow.

and its removed now, it was expected already

Previously, Quickseller had become escrow of a scam site which allowed them to run a signature campaign. The account already had negative rating from BadBear and they wouldn't have got any participants without Quickseller's help.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Quickseller had given negative rating to girlbtc.com which he removed while trying to become escrow.

All (trusted) negative rating was removed to neutral because they didn't deserve it as they have resolved accusations just like kashish948.

Previously, Quickseller had become escrow of a scam site which allowed them to run a signature campaign. The account already had negative rating from BadBear and they wouldn't have got any participants without Quickseller's help.

True. IMHO he should have denied it.

[BadBear]

Quickseller had given negative rating to girlbtc.com which he removed while trying to become escrow.

I would like to publicly state that I was asked to give a price on how much it would cost to escrow this signature campaign. I gave the OP a quote and I will follow up by editing this post if/when escrow is funded to pay all participants.

Since you still have one negative red on girlbtc account, so I think they will let you to be the escrow.

and its removed now, it was expected already

Previously, Quickseller had become escrow of a scam site which allowed them to run a signature campaign. The account already had negative rating from BadBear and they wouldn't have got any participants without Quickseller's help.

I gave him the negative after the escrow deal had already been made. I remember seeing the sig campaign posts and hoping someone was escrowing it.

[Quickseller]

Quickseller had given negative rating to girlbtc.com which he removed while trying to become escrow.

I would like to publicly state that I was asked to give a price on how much it would cost to escrow this signature campaign. I gave the OP a quote and I will follow up by editing this post if/when escrow is funded to pay all participants.

Since you still have one negative red on girlbtc account, so I think they will let you to be the escrow.

and its removed now, it was expected already

Previously, Quickseller had become escrow of a scam site which allowed them to run a signature campaign. The account already had negative rating from BadBear and they wouldn't have got any participants without Quickseller's help.

Do you seriously think that I would sell trust for the $1 in escrow fees that I 'make'? If you cannot honestly think that someone in a first world country would seriously do that then you need to stop bringing up this fact.

The dropping of the girlbtc.com negative had nothing to do with I escrowing for them.

BTW, the owner of the site that you are critical of me escrowing the signature campaign for has known addresses with huge amounts of taint with the gambling site you are advertising, had lost over 7 BTC on the site you are advertising (he has posted this just before the forum went down IIRC) and the owner of the site you are advertising had declined to provide withdrawal addresses he had withdrawn to, citing privacy for his customers.

So if you are going to be critical of anyone who "helps" moreia, then I would suggest removing your signature and criticizing the owner of the site you are advertising for

[peligro]

I gave him the negative after the escrow deal had already been made. I remember seeing the sig campaign posts and hoping someone was escrowing it.

That clears it.

Do you seriously think that I would sell trust for the $1 in escrow fees that I 'make'? If you cannot honestly think that someone in a first world country would seriously do that then you need to stop bringing up this fact.

If you could've cleared it earlier like BadBear did I wouldn't have to keep bringing it up.

BTW, **

Here comes the famed personal attack from Quickseller.

** the owner of the site that you are critical of me escrowing the signature campaign for has known addresses with huge amounts of taint with the gambling site you are advertising, had lost over 7 BTC on the site you are advertising (he has posted this just before the forum went down IIRC) and the owner of the site you are advertising had declined to provide withdrawal addresses he had withdrawn to, citing privacy for his customers.

So if you are going to be critical of anyone who "helps" moreia, then I would suggest removing your signature and criticizing the owner of the site you are advertising for

If they receive negatives from those within my trust network I will leave. My issue with the escrow I mentioned was that the account already had negative trust from one of the most trustworthy members.

[Quickseller]

How is that a personal attack? I am merely pointing out that the site you are advertising for is by your own definition is "aiding and embedding" a scammer by failing to disclose a scammer's withdrawal addresses.

[peligro]

How is that a personal attack? I am merely pointing out that the site you are advertising for is by your own definition is "aiding and embedding" a scammer by failing to disclose a scammer's withdrawal addresses.

Make a scam thread. If dogedice receives valid negatives I will leave.

"aiding and embedding"? Some joke I am not understanding?

[Quickseller]

How is that a personal attack? I am merely pointing out that the site you are advertising for is by your own definition is "aiding and embedding" a scammer by failing to disclose a scammer's withdrawal addresses.

Make a scam thread. If dogedice receives valid negatives I will leave.

"aiding and embedding"? Some joke I am not understanding?

It is not scamming. It is doing essentially the same thing I did for them. You are being hypocritical

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

So BadBear is returned and nothing has changed? That's a shame...

[alani123]

The case that he dug into a persons posts to give him a negative rating for something he did 2 years prior got already buried with irrelevant posts.

Looks like he's gone the opposite way with me.  He's added more negative trust (trust spamming?).  His new one says that not only does he take a known scammer's word for it that I'm somehow a scammer, but because I called him out for his smear campaign, that also makes me untrustworthy.  He says "avoid interacting with me at all".  Hey, Quickseller, how is leaving three negative trust ratings on me (between you and your alt) equal to avoiding interaction?  Seems like immature trolling to me.

Holy shit! Just looked at your ratings, did that idiot give you negative trust for something you did two years ago? How objective of you Quickseller, it's not like you targeted because you hate him, not at all. He really deserved a negative trust rating 2 years after no one else had complained about what he did.

No wonder that you think accts seller is his alt, he necroposted on your scam accusation from 2013 2 years afterwards just to target you from what is seems. Way to abuse his position in default trust.

People that have Quickseller in their trust lists should seriously reconsider their choice, his abuse is getting out of hand.

[nor9865]

The case that he dug into a persons posts to give him a negative rating for something he did 2 years prior got already buried with irrelevant posts.

Looks like he's gone the opposite way with me.  He's added more negative trust (trust spamming?).  His new one says that not only does he take a known scammer's word for it that I'm somehow a scammer, but because I called him out for his smear campaign, that also makes me untrustworthy.  He says "avoid interacting with me at all".  Hey, Quickseller, how is leaving three negative trust ratings on me (between you and your alt) equal to avoiding interaction?  Seems like immature trolling to me.

Holy shit! Just looked at your ratings, did that idiot give you negative trust for something you did two years ago? How objective of you Quickseller, it's not like you targeted because you hate him, not at all. He really deserved a negative trust rating 2 years after no one else had complained about what he did.

No wonder that you think accts seller is his alt, he necroposted on your scam accusation from 2013 2 years afterwards just to target you from what is seems. Way to abuse his position in default trust.

People that have Quickseller in their trust lists should seriously reconsider their choice, his abuse is getting out of hand.

Has anybody ever stopped to consider that this is why he is in their trust list? The one's negging him are the same ones that think the people don't know that Quickseller is doing all these mean and nasty things to them, but the ones that has put him in their trust list, LIVE ON HERE. They know exactly what Quickseller does on here. He makes no attempt to be nonshalant. They are not gonna remove him.

[erikalui]

The case that he dug into a persons posts to give him a negative rating for something he did 2 years prior got already buried with irrelevant posts.

Looks like he's gone the opposite way with me.  He's added more negative trust (trust spamming?).  His new one says that not only does he take a known scammer's word for it that I'm somehow a scammer, but because I called him out for his smear campaign, that also makes me untrustworthy.  He says "avoid interacting with me at all".  Hey, Quickseller, how is leaving three negative trust ratings on me (between you and your alt) equal to avoiding interaction?  Seems like immature trolling to me.

Holy shit! Just looked at your ratings, did that idiot give you negative trust for something you did two years ago? How objective of you Quickseller, it's not like you targeted because you hate him, not at all. He really deserved a negative trust rating 2 years after no one else had complained about what he did.

No wonder that you think accts seller is his alt, he necroposted on your scam accusation from 2013 2 years afterwards just to target you from what is seems. Way to abuse his position in default trust.

People that have Quickseller in their trust lists should seriously reconsider their choice, his abuse is getting out of hand.

It's not that Quickseller is leaving a negative trust for personal reasons but his ratings are mostly based on assumptions and extreme cases which may not be true (although they can be a possibility) and hence one cannot trust his ratings. If he negates an account for scamming there are 50% chances of it being true and 50% untrue. Unless there is a solid evidence or the person attempts scamming, it's not right to make assumptions.

The people who trust him may blindly trust his ratings but they need to even read the reasons which is not the case always. I too find many people suspicious here but I can't claim anyone to be a scammer without having any proof.

He won't be removed from the trust list for these reasons.

[Quickseller]

The case that he dug into a persons posts to give him a negative rating for something he did 2 years prior got already buried with irrelevant posts.

Looks like he's gone the opposite way with me.  He's added more negative trust (trust spamming?).  His new one says that not only does he take a known scammer's word for it that I'm somehow a scammer, but because I called him out for his smear campaign, that also makes me untrustworthy.  He says "avoid interacting with me at all".  Hey, Quickseller, how is leaving three negative trust ratings on me (between you and your alt) equal to avoiding interaction?  Seems like immature trolling to me.

Holy shit! Just looked at your ratings, did that idiot give you negative trust for something you did two years ago? How objective of you Quickseller, it's not like you targeted because you hate him, not at all. He really deserved a negative trust rating 2 years after no one else had complained about what he did.

No wonder that you think accts seller is his alt, he necroposted on your scam accusation from 2013 2 years afterwards just to target you from what is seems. Way to abuse his position in default trust.

People that have Quickseller in their trust lists should seriously reconsider their choice, his abuse is getting out of hand.

It's not that Quickseller is leaving a negative trust for personal reasons but his ratings are mostly based on assumptions and extreme cases which may not be true (although they can be a possibility) and hence one cannot trust his ratings. If he negates an account for scamming there are 50% chances of it being true and 50% untrue. Unless there is a solid evidence or the person attempts scamming, it's not right to make assumptions.

The people who trust him may blindly trust his ratings but they need to even read the reasons which is not the case always. I too find many people suspicious here but I can't claim anyone to be a scammer without having any proof.

He won't be removed from the trust list for these reasons.

Proof is not always publicly provided because providing such evidence would allow scammers to evade detection in the future, however evidence is retained and validated prior to calling someone out as a scammer.

I have been wrong in the past and when this happens I do remove such negative feedback, although I tend to gather sufficient evidence to make sure I am correct prior to leaving a negative and as a result I do not often need to remove negatives.

[tspacepilot]

The case that he dug into a persons posts to give him a negative rating for something he did 2 years prior got already buried with irrelevant posts.

Looks like he's gone the opposite way with me.  He's added more negative trust (trust spamming?).  His new one says that not only does he take a known scammer's word for it that I'm somehow a scammer, but because I called him out for his smear campaign, that also makes me untrustworthy.  He says "avoid interacting with me at all".  Hey, Quickseller, how is leaving three negative trust ratings on me (between you and your alt) equal to avoiding interaction?  Seems like immature trolling to me.

Holy shit! Just looked at your ratings, did that idiot give you negative trust for something you did two years ago? How objective of you Quickseller, it's not like you targeted because you hate him, not at all. He really deserved a negative trust rating 2 years after no one else had complained about what he did.

No wonder that you think accts seller is his alt, he necroposted on your scam accusation from 2013 2 years afterwards just to target you from what is seems. Way to abuse his position in default trust.

People that have Quickseller in their trust lists should seriously reconsider their choice, his abuse is getting out of hand.

It's not that Quickseller is leaving a negative trust for personal reasons but his ratings are mostly based on assumptions and extreme cases which may not be true (although they can be a possibility) and hence one cannot trust his ratings. If he negates an account for scamming there are 50% chances of it being true and 50% untrue. Unless there is a solid evidence or the person attempts scamming, it's not right to make assumptions.

The people who trust him may blindly trust his ratings but they need to even read the reasons which is not the case always. I too find many people suspicious here but I can't claim anyone to be a scammer without having any proof.

He won't be removed from the trust list for these reasons.

Proof is not always publicly provided because providing such evidence would allow scammers to evade detection in the future, however evidence is retained and validated prior to calling someone out as a scammer.

In my case, there wasn't any proof.  Never has been and never will be (because the accusations were false and they weren't even from you and they didn't even have anything to do with you).

I have been wrong in the past and when this happens I do remove such negative feedback,

Quiickseller, can you give one (1) example of a time when you removed negative trust?

although I tend to gather sufficient evidence to make sure I am correct prior to leaving a negative and as a result I do not often need to remove negatives.

Try to stop with this public masterbation.  Let the facts speak for themselves.  When you conclude every other post with "and that's why I'm so cool" it just looks ridiculous.

[Quickseller]

You can look at the top of this thread for one example.

Look asshole, stop with the smear campaign against me. I know that you did the same thing to TF when he gave you negative trust, and you are doing the same thing to me.

There has not been one person to disagree that you scammed TF/CoinChat, although the question remains as to how much. As soon as people start disagreeing with you, the thread simply gets locked.

At the end of the day you are not getting your negative trust removed, you are a scammer, a troll, and a spammer.

[Quickseller]

Short for what I'd consider fair: him to review the rating to something more accurate/change it to a comment saying that he personally doesn't trust me/remove the rating.

I edited the rating to remove the statement that "an agreement was reach" despite that I still believe that fact to be true.

I don't think you have disputed any of the facts in my adjusted rating.

[Quickerseller]

You can look at the top of this thread for one example.

Look asshole, stop with the smear campaign against me. I know that you did the same thing to TF when he gave you negative trust, and you are doing the same thing to me.

There has not been one person to disagree that you scammed TF/CoinChat, although the question remains as to how much. As soon as people start disagreeing with you, the thread simply gets locked.

At the end of the day you are not getting your negative trust removed, you are a scammer, a troll, and a spammer.

Seems there are multiple campaigns, or maybe all the accusations are true.

[Quickseller]

You can look at the top of this thread for one example.

Look asshole, stop with the smear campaign against me. I know that you did the same thing to TF when he gave you negative trust, and you are doing the same thing to me.

There has not been one person to disagree that you scammed TF/CoinChat, although the question remains as to how much. As soon as people start disagreeing with you, the thread simply gets locked.

At the end of the day you are not getting your negative trust removed, you are a scammer, a troll, and a spammer.

Seems there are multiple campaigns, or maybe all the accusations are true.

I have pissed off a lot of people and cost them a lot of money they were hoping to steal.

[tspacepilot]

You can look at the top of this thread for one example.

Look asshole, stop with the smear campaign against me. I know that you did the same thing to TF when he gave you negative trust, and you are doing the same thing to me.

Note: Quickseller has switched to calling me asshole.  He used to always call me idiot.

With respect to the top of this thread, it looks to me like you're unrelenting on worshiper_-_ (I still see your rating when I click on his trust list) so it's not clear what you're talking about.

Here's the thing man, I'm not on any smear campaign against you.  It's funny that you should use that phrase because it's exactly what you are doing to me.  You know well and good that you don't like it when people disagree with you.  I did so publically on two or three threads and then you you went after me.  You went trolling through my past using two accounts looking for something to try to use against me and the only thing you could turn up was some unsubstantiated claims from a known scammer.

What on earth do you mean "I did the same thing to TF"?  That is silly and clearly untrue.  I did nothing to TF when he gave me negative trust except to ask why and for what and ask the community if there was any recourse.  There was no recourse so I left him alone and he left me alone and eventually he was revealed to be the person he is while I never had any problems with anyone until you came along.

Here you are, a guy on default trust, calling people idiots, calling people asshole, for why?  Because they disagree with you?  Because thedy don't like it when you use many accounts to smear them and slander them?  You and I never had a single trade or interaction aother than me not aggreing with you in public and you going of and caling me an idiot.  

There has not been one person to disagree that you scammed TF/CoinChat, although the question remains as to how much. As soon as people start disagreeing with you, the thread simply gets locked.

The thing is that there is not one person who knows anything about it other than me and TF.  I know what happened and he knows what happened and everyone else merely listened and said "huh".  Again, if there was some evidence against me, don't you think saltyspitoon or other respected forum members on that thread that you necrobumped with your alt would have put some feedback?  Here's the difference between them and you, they were objectively observing and you were on a vendetta.

At the end of the day you are not getting your negative trust removed, you are a scammer, a troll, and a spammer.

This is fine.  I'm surprised you can't think of any other bad words to use here recklessly. In fact I have scammed no one (but I have done a fair share of voluneering and helping on the forums) I have spammed no one (I'm actually involved in several anti-spam campaigns across the internet), if I have trolled anyone it may be you but then again, you started this shitstorm when you couldn't control your ego enough to allow someone to disagree with you without flying off the handle and using multiple accounts to attack them.

I know you're not removing your negative trust against me.  You're like a captain on a sinking ship, you're going to be clinging to that thing as it goes down.

[Quickseller]

I have pissed off a lot of people and cost them a lot of money they were hoping to steal.

You have also pissed off a lot of innocent people and prevented them from contributing to the Bitcoin community because of your false or misleading accusations.

No.