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April 13, 2015, 11:28:48 AM
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Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1NKrzqi0

Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in

Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.

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April 13, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
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Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1NKrzqi0

Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in

Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.

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April 13, 2015, 12:55:10 PM
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Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1NKrzqi0

Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in

Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.

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April 13, 2015, 04:42:01 PM
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Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1NKrzqi0

Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in

Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.
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April 13, 2015, 04:46:29 PM
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Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfY1NKrzqi0

Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in

Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.

We have to take a stand on this.
The mainstream media has taken a pretty strong stand on this.
Arnab shooting off his mouth right now.  Grin
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April 14, 2015, 08:56:08 AM
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I guess this was a pretty useless hype created by some kids.
Ravi Shankar Prasad has already stated that there will be equal internet for all, there is nothing to worry about.

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April 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
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I guess this was a pretty useless hype created by some kids.
Ravi Shankar Prasad has already stated that there will be equal internet for all, there is nothing to worry about.

Telecom Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad came up with a statement only after TRAI received lakhs of mail to save net neutrality. Stop assuming yourself a wise person by calling kids to those who spend hundreds of free hour just to save internet freedom.

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April 14, 2015, 06:10:18 PM
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I guess this was a pretty useless hype created by some kids.
Ravi Shankar Prasad has already stated that there will be equal internet for all, there is nothing to worry about.

Telecom Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad came up with a statement only after TRAI received lakhs of mail to save net neutrality. Stop assuming yourself a wise person by calling kids to those who spend hundreds of free hour just to save internet freedom.
Yes they did give a statement because of the internet campaign, but this campaign was the one which created unnecessary hype by claiming that the government is going to end the internet freedom(which was never planned), so if this hype wouldn't have been there then no one would have cared and Ravi Shankar prasad wouldn't have to give a statement and things would have continued as usual.

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April 15, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
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Net Neutrality is a hoax I think.

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April 15, 2015, 07:30:31 PM
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I guess this was a pretty useless hype created by some kids.
Ravi Shankar Prasad has already stated that there will be equal internet for all, there is nothing to worry about.

Telecom Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad came up with a statement only after TRAI received lakhs of mail to save net neutrality. Stop assuming yourself a wise person by calling kids to those who spend hundreds of free hour just to save internet freedom.
Yes they did give a statement because of the internet campaign, but this campaign was the one which created unnecessary hype by claiming that the government is going to end the internet freedom(which was never planned), so if this hype wouldn't have been there then no one would have cared and Ravi Shankar prasad wouldn't have to give a statement and things would have continued as usual.

TRAI asked users 20 Qs regarding this which started this furor...

http://www.trai.gov.in/Content/ConDis/10743_0.aspx

But this conspiracy started when Zuckerberg visited prime minister. Telecom cpmanies across the globe are trying to pact with large websites to kill small ones and then use their monopoly to extort users. They tried it in USA as well but could not pass the bill in senate. The video posted by OP lucidly explains it all...

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April 15, 2015, 07:33:19 PM
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Net Neutrality is a hoax I think.

You are an idiot I think.

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April 16, 2015, 03:25:38 PM
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Net Neutrality is a hoax I think.

You are an idiot I think.

You are wrong and M sure about dat !

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April 16, 2015, 08:39:36 PM
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It's good , i have already voted
I think we can move this to main board of our country , given there are already less users and it won't hurt to keep it there for a week or two
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April 18, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
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It's good , i have already voted
I think we can move this to main board of our country , given there are already less users and it won't hurt to keep it there for a week or two

Moving it back to the main board as this does effect Bitcoin providers as well and as a start-up environment, it would be impossible to grow innovation without a neutral net.

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April 18, 2015, 06:08:40 PM
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It's good , i have already voted
I think we can move this to main board of our country , given there are already less users and it won't hurt to keep it there for a week or two

Moving it back to the main board as this does effect Bitcoin providers as well and as a start-up environment, it would be impossible to grow innovation without a neutral net.

Yes! Thanks
This is getting scary day-by-day Sad
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April 19, 2015, 03:36:14 AM
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Got this message from Airtel CEO

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Dear Customer

Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
 

    Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.

    Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.

    Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.

    There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.

    Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.

There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.

In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.

In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.

Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia

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April 20, 2015, 05:56:31 AM
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Got this message from Airtel CEO

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Dear Customer

Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
 

    Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.

    Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.

    Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.

    There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.

    Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.

There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.

In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.

In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.

Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia

Though it is better but still i don't want to support Airtel Zero , They are just good with words , what if they imply some change later ?
The overall concept of having all things in one place removes the fun n entertainment of surfing.
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April 26, 2015, 02:22:59 AM
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There is a new term for people like us....  Tongue

http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece

The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).
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There is a new term for people like us....  Tongue

http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece

The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).


I certainly won't mind that word Cool , it sounds kind of awesome .
Anyway's , who wrote this stuff , it's great. I never considered what will happen to anonymity of BTC if net neutrality goes away.
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April 26, 2015, 09:12:55 AM
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Seems recently Telcos are now threatening to increase the tariffs for those plans. Just read this article where they are now proposing to increase the tariffs six folds seeing their initial plan failing

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms

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