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April 26, 2015, 05:04:30 AM
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A casino with a positive house edge (for example: +1%) is a winning casino, because in the long run, it is expected to win money.
This website, with a -7.89% house edge is a loosing casino because players are expected to win money.

No matter how old the casino is...

If OP is so confidence that he made this casino to be in minus house edge than it probably means that he is sure that it will gain some profit. Many new dice sites cant stand out the competition because the sites offer nothing innovative but rather the same copy feature of the old dice sites

If you do some counting based on the house edge and the wagered status, the status is not in the favor of the owner or investor but to the players but still we wont know the result of the investment since it is still new as the site could make some profit in the run.

Maybe, OP confident every players who come here can't control themselves from gambling
Or he did something so he always get profit

Also, i'm still not sure if this site is provably fair

the site is provably fair and you can check them yourself , there is a button to check on this, simply click on the verification tab and put in your seed as well as the server seed to run the provably fair.
It is better if there is a 3rd party verification that will check on this automatically since not everyone know how to do this themselves. OP could set a bounty for it

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April 26, 2015, 06:12:07 AM
 #102

Has the site finally launched, can we play  now using real BTC?

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April 26, 2015, 06:14:29 AM
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Has the site finally launched, can we play  now using real BTC?

yes the sites has launched for some time yet there is no official announcement from OP and you can play with real BTC, there is also an option to use faucet if you dont want to deposit into the sites
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April 26, 2015, 06:20:37 AM
 #104

Has the site finally launched, can we play  now using real BTC?

yes the sites has launched for some time yet there is no official announcement from OP and you can play with real BTC, there is also an option to use faucet if you dont want to deposit into the sites

faucet is too low, 100 satoshi.

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April 26, 2015, 06:26:07 AM
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Has the site finally launched, can we play  now using real BTC?

yes the sites has launched for some time yet there is no official announcement from OP and you can play with real BTC, there is also an option to use faucet if you dont want to deposit into the sites

faucet is too low, 100 satoshi.

it was 5k satoshis yesterday , then it means that they lowered it already . The faucet is not to make you rich, it is too make people able to try on the site without having to deposit. so you can always try on it and win some even if it is not big enough
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April 26, 2015, 06:34:55 AM
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Maybe recover bet is useless they never let you recover. I tried 7 times as of now all loss

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April 26, 2015, 06:49:42 AM
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They don't allow withdraw before 3 confirmations, now why is that? Don't tell this is to avoid fraud since there are other legit sites they are also safe.

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April 26, 2015, 06:58:45 AM
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Maybe recover bet is useless they never let you recover. I tried 7 times as of now all loss

not really useless because with the recover loss feature, the site is on negative house edge which means it is in favor for the players. I have explained this about the chances to recover loss just a page back from here

10 % recover loss if you roll under 50
20 % recover loss if you roll under 40
30 % recover loss if you roll under 30
40 % recover loss if you roll under 20
50 % recover loss if you roll under 10

With such chance you have a 50 % chance atleast to recover 10 % of your bet


They don't allow withdraw before 3 confirmations, now why is that? Don't tell this is to avoid fraud since there are other legit sites they are also safe.

Since they are still a new sites, it could be that the 3 confirmations is to avoid fraud things from happening, besides , 3 confirmations isnt much as it is most likely 30~ minutes or so.

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April 26, 2015, 07:36:27 AM
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This is a tiring process you loose and go and recover bet. Once you recover next bet you'll loose

Also i don't think so this is fair. OP has created this system so obviously he wants to gain no one is doing social work here.So plz don't praise anyone saying this site has negative house edge whatever at the end you'll loose.

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April 26, 2015, 07:44:21 AM
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This is a tiring process you loose and go and recover bet.

You can go for autobet if you dont want to use the recover bet option so I dont think thats an issue

Once you recover next bet you'll loose

Not really, I have stated above that there is a chance for you to recover your bet, it is not like you will always win the roll and be able to recover your bet

Also i don't think so this is fair.

It is fair, it has the provably fair and you can check it yourself regarding this

OP has created this system so obviously he wants to gain

Of course, who would want to create a gambling sites if there is nothing to gain? no one is giving free money to the others

no one is doing social work here.

Yes no one besides OP, you might want to add this as a suggestion to him

So plz don't praise anyone saying this site has negative house edge whatever at the end you'll loose.

No one is praising it, Im just stating that the odds to win is in the favor for players, which means you got a bigger chance to win but it is not likely that you will always win and yes at the end you will lose , gambling isnt getting rich in a short moment, might takes some times to play and luck  Smiley

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April 26, 2015, 08:02:43 AM
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Useless site, just added a recovery feature which is also bullshit and its better to ask for donation then taking people money in this way. Go to hell!

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April 26, 2015, 08:04:20 AM
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Maybe recover bet is useless they never let you recover. I tried 7 times as of now all loss

It depends on the chance you are takinG. Even if it is  50% or 10% it still depends on your luCk.

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April 26, 2015, 08:06:09 AM
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Useless site, just added a recovery feature which is also bullshit and its better to ask for donation then taking people money in this way. Go to hell!

How can you say useless? is it because you lose? oh man, grow Up. No one can always win all the time

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April 26, 2015, 08:07:49 AM
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Maybe recover bet is useless they never let you recover. I tried 7 times as of now all loss

It depends on the chance you are takinG. Even if it is  50% or 10% it still depends on your luCk.

They write provable fair, which means not completely fair. But there are still people supporting them.

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April 26, 2015, 08:10:23 AM
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Useless site, just added a recovery feature which is also bullshit and its better to ask for donation then taking people money in this way. Go to hell!

How can you say useless? is it because you lose? oh man, grow Up. No one can always win all the time

dude i played on multiple sites i have lost and won also i am not complaining on losing or winning. They just fucking add a useless feature and then they say provable fair. why they don't say it is a fair game, can you explain me?

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April 26, 2015, 08:23:19 AM
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Okay, this seemed promising, but I don't think its a fair site. Just a feeling though, can't back it up with actual facts.

I bet with 95% chance of winning, so i should lose 1 in 20 bets on average. That doesnt happen, the average is +- 8. If it would have been 1 in 18 or so, I would have believed it.

Also, I used the bot and set it to stop when I make any loss. It continued 2 more bets after it should have stopped.
Edit: The continueing after a loss is fucked up, as you cant recover your bet.
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April 26, 2015, 09:11:43 AM
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The game is PROVABLY FAIR and is very simple to check
The SERVER SEED is generating by server and you can change the CLIENT SEED here http://wishdice.com/cont/
Code:
$clientSeed="Your_client_seed";
$serverSeed="Server_seed";
$globalSeedVarchar=$clientSeed.$serverSeed; 
$validSeedChar=array(
"a","b","c","d","e","f","g","h","i","k","j","l","m","n","o","p","q","r","s","t","u","v","w","x","y","z","0","1","2","3","4","5","6","7","8","9"
);
$globalSeedInt=0;
for ($i=0; $i<strlen($globalSeedVarchar); $i++) {
$char=substr($globalSeedVarchar,$i,1);
$addThis=intval(array_search(strtolower($char),$validSeedChar));
if (ctype_upper($char)) {
$changeThis=strlen($globalSeedVarchar);
$globalSeedInt=$globalSeedInt+($addThis*$changeThis);
} else {
$globalSeedInt=$globalSeedInt+$addThis;
}
}
srand($globalSeedInt);
$roll=number_format((rand(1,10000)/100),2,'.','');
echo $roll;

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April 26, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
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dude i played on multiple sites i have lost and won also i am not complaining on losing or winning. They just fucking add a useless feature and then they say provable fair. why they don't say it is a fair game, can you explain me?

It seems like you dont understand what a provably fair is. Provably fair is a mechanism that prevent the site from cheating you, if a site attempted to cheat or manipulate the roll, player can notice it by verifying the rolls. In shorts words, site that has provably is actually fair because their cheating would have been known if they try it

Pro tip : search up google before bashing up here http://provablyfair.org/

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April 26, 2015, 09:33:48 AM
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Is very simple to  check the provably fair...
Let's check this bet: Bet # 10416
Server seed =  USx8xXhxjSdpObUePPbg0JdxZ8ceV6xbGij3hC9LbzQ4LIFeTP4C92fsBisA
Client seed = 9FLaFlnz7enFiVFktFvLIS06Z73NTBxQS0cAdOtBOyak8QnWSdf2JqsHtpvD
If you combine the codes you will get this number: 91.28
Here is the algoritm:
Code:
$clientSeed="9FLaFlnz7enFiVFktFvLIS06Z73NTBxQS0cAdOtBOyak8QnWSdf2JqsHtpvD"; //Your Client SEED
$serverSeed="USx8xXhxjSdpObUePPbg0JdxZ8ceV6xbGij3hC9LbzQ4LIFeTP4C92fsBisA"; //The server SEED
$globalSeedVarchar=$clientSeed.$serverSeed;  
$validSeedChar=array(
"a","b","c","d","e","f","g","h","i","k","j","l","m","n","o","p","q","r","s","t","u","v","w","x","y","z","0","1","2","3","4","5","6","7","8","9"
);
$globalSeedInt=0;
for ($i=0; $i<strlen($globalSeedVarchar); $i++) {
$char=substr($globalSeedVarchar,$i,1);
$addThis=intval(array_search(strtolower($char),$validSeedChar));
if (ctype_upper($char)) {
$changeThis=strlen($globalSeedVarchar);
$globalSeedInt=$globalSeedInt+($addThis*$changeThis);
} else {
$globalSeedInt=$globalSeedInt+$addThis;
}
}
srand($globalSeedInt);
$roll=number_format((rand(1,10000)/100),2,'.','');
echo $roll;

You can make a php file and run on a server or put the code here: http://writecodeonline.com/php/
91.28 < 49.50 ? ? ? FALSE! You lost



.()_().
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April 26, 2015, 09:37:40 AM
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The site has actually a negative house edge with the recover function  Shocked

This won't work for the long run...or there is something suspicious going on.


Edit: The betting is pretty slow for me...and sometimes it doesn't place the bet and I have to repress the button.


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