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April 17, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
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I have decided to finally open a public shard to DeltaPool
Yes we are a new pool with dedicated staff members, but no hash rate, we have only just opened the pool!

Once the pool has broken in a little, we will be giving away awards to users who find blocks.
All pool fees go to server upkeep and block bonus rewards, we do not keep any for ourselves.

What are bonus block rewards?
For every block found, a user will get a bonus amount of bitcoin for each block they find.

Site:
https://public.deltapool.net

Pool Fee:
1%

Signup Required:
Yes

Pool Payment Method:
Prop

Difficulty:
Hybrid VARDIFF / Set your own.

Site Frontend:
MPOS

Stratum URL:
mining.deltapool.net:3333
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April 17, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
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What is:

Pool Payment Method:
POW

Especially since your site says this:
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Q: When will I get paid?
 A: This pool uses the following payout system.

Proportional (Prop) - The block reward is distributed among miners in proportion to the number of shares they submitted in a round. The expected reward per share depends on the number of shares already submitted in the round.

Jonny's Pool - Mine with us and help us grow!  Support a pool that supports Bitcoin, not a hardware manufacturer's pockets!  No SPV cheats.  No empty blocks.
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April 17, 2015, 04:20:55 PM
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What is:

Pool Payment Method:
POW

Especially since your site says this:
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Q: When will I get paid?
 A: This pool uses the following payout system.

Proportional (Prop) - The block reward is distributed among miners in proportion to the number of shares they submitted in a round. The expected reward per share depends on the number of shares already submitted in the round.


Thanks for spotting that Smiley Will fix that now!
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April 17, 2015, 11:20:54 PM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709


Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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April 17, 2015, 11:33:30 PM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709



Hopping yes this can be an issue, what I am coding the front end to do along with the forked stratum-mining thanks to Slush0 is have a banning system, if it sees certain addresses stopping and starting, or a miner only coming in and certain intervals it will ban them for a set time.
Of course, I am open to suggestions of what the pool would be better using than prop.
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April 17, 2015, 11:56:42 PM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709



Hopping yes this can be an issue, what I am coding the front end to do along with the forked stratum-mining thanks to Slush0 is have a banning system, if it sees certain addresses stopping and starting, or a miner only coming in and certain intervals it will ban them for a set time.
Of course, I am open to suggestions of what the pool would be better using than prop.

I think Kano runs one of the best pools around. IF I was going to start a pool, I would model it after a proven system that works. Just my 2 satoshi.
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April 18, 2015, 12:08:23 AM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709



Hopping yes this can be an issue, what I am coding the front end to do along with the forked stratum-mining thanks to Slush0 is have a banning system, if it sees certain addresses stopping and starting, or a miner only coming in and certain intervals it will ban them for a set time.
Of course, I am open to suggestions of what the pool would be better using than prop.

I am simply curious and not knocking anyone's system. I like to learn, understand, and be informed. Once I have multiple personal experiences and / or people I trust explaining things I begin to form a solid opinion, but I enjoy the learning aspect so thanks for being forward with your intents and open to changes.

Can you share how you would handle the bannings, if it would affect mining renters, for example westhash / nicehash folks who are at your pool until a specific price and then they rent their gear for however long that price or more holds?

Are you setting up a copy of Slush's pool or simply utilizing some of the code?

If you can be specific I would enjoy understanding how the timing works, do you ban after twenty minutes or 24 hours of activity, etc?


Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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April 18, 2015, 12:10:36 AM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709



Hopping yes this can be an issue, what I am coding the front end to do along with the forked stratum-mining thanks to Slush0 is have a banning system, if it sees certain addresses stopping and starting, or a miner only coming in and certain intervals it will ban them for a set time.
Of course, I am open to suggestions of what the pool would be better using than prop.

I think Kano runs one of the best pools around. IF I was going to start a pool, I would model it after a proven system that works. Just my 2 satoshi.

I completely agree. Kano runs a solid ship and has a way with a keyboard. He and CK must go through a few keyboards a month because they beat it like it owes them money.

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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April 22, 2015, 12:09:50 PM
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Hi Xan, I'm confused by a few things Huh

1) From the OP I clicked https://public.deltapool.net/ and it takes me to DragonWOW Forums. What's the connection?
Was it supposed to be https://forums.deltapool.net/ ? Maybe SSL error.
 
2) When I jumped back to https://deltapool.net the main page reads

"DeltaPool is currently a private ASIC mining pool, we will be accepting miners into the pool with a selection process on our forums"

But there isn't any threads in your forum relating to the selection process? Who qualifies?


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April 23, 2015, 01:29:39 PM
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Hi Xan, I'm confused by a few things Huh

1) From the OP I clicked https://public.deltapool.net/ and it takes me to DragonWOW Forums. What's the connection?
Was it supposed to be https://forums.deltapool.net/ ? Maybe SSL error.
 
2) When I jumped back to https://deltapool.net the main page reads

"DeltaPool is currently a private ASIC mining pool, we will be accepting miners into the pool with a selection process on our forums"

But there isn't any threads in your forum relating to the selection process? Who qualifies?



Hello trandax! Sorry for the confusion, after closely looking at a few suggestions we are going to move from prop, on the public pool! Please give me some time while webservers are upgraded, the domain will point to the right place once I have updated the pool server Smiley

The private pool is for my own personal farm, which is currently closed to the public.
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November 02, 2017, 05:47:47 PM
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Is this pool still all good? About to start mining to it.
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November 02, 2017, 05:57:38 PM
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I am always curious about new things.

I would like to ask specifically:
How you plan to counter hopping?

I quote a statement from a respected community member:
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2) Prop - but then all the long term miners get paid less for their shares than the smart hoppers, so no one in their right mind would mine at a Prop pool.
Full thread here so you may see entire context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893133.msg11113709#msg11113709



Hopping yes this can be an issue, what I am coding the front end to do along with the forked stratum-mining thanks to Slush0 is have a banning system, if it sees certain addresses stopping and starting, or a miner only coming in and certain intervals it will ban them for a set time.
Of course, I am open to suggestions of what the pool would be better using than prop.

I think Kano runs one of the best pools around. IF I was going to start a pool, I would model it after a proven system that works. Just my 2 satoshi.

Yeah, one of the best pools if you don't like finding blocks.
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November 02, 2017, 06:01:00 PM
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Ah, so I probably won't ever get paid here you say. Okay, I'll move off then.
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