Welcome to Liberland, Europe’s Brand New Country! Taxes 'Optional', No Military!

[Enzyme]

This looks like a country heading for disaster, think about it, you wouldn't put your life savings in Bitcoin.

They're basing their entire economy on Bitcoin, too volatile.

[MICRO]

This looks like a country heading for disaster, think about it, you wouldn't put your life savings in Bitcoin.

They're basing their entire economy on Bitcoin, too volatile.

Volatility doesn't affect anything if everything is in that same currency .  And they don't have any economy yet .

[Wilikon]

They have a good chance to form a country. The mosquitoes there would be able to suck dry any army what would try to recover that land .

Very true . That land there has loads of them and also it was never treated against mosquitoes not by Serbia and not by Croatia .

Shouldn't the first step be buying everything to make that land more livable for all, then focus on the rest? Maybe it's time to bring some natural predators first then bring the big chemical guns then... All bought in bitcoin of course

 

[BitMos]

how many divisions? otherwise the rapist of Clintons gang will come... so not safe now, join the Russian fed and then may be... have fun anyway, until they come, and they will...

[Snail2]

Shouldn't the first step be buying everything to make that land more livable for all, then focus on the rest? Maybe it's time to bring some natural predators first then bring the big chemical guns then... All bought in bitcoin of course

 

Hopeless thing. There are plenty of similar areas around, so if you get rid of the mosquitoes on one spot, more will come to grab those vacant bushes.

[BitMos]

Shouldn't the first step be buying everything to make that land more livable for all, then focus on the rest? Maybe it's time to bring some natural predators first then bring the big chemical guns then... All bought in bitcoin of course

 

Hopeless thing. There are plenty of similar areas around, so if you get rid of the mosquitoes on one spot, more will come to grab those vacant bushes.

nice analogy, respect them and they will be cool... (the mosquitoes, for the non human there is only death).

[jaysabi]

This looks like a country heading for disaster, think about it, you wouldn't put your life savings in Bitcoin.

They're basing their entire economy on Bitcoin, too volatile.

Volatility doesn't affect anything if everything is in that same currency .  And they don't have any economy yet .

So they only have to get the rest of the world to switch to bitcoin and they should be fine!

[bryant.coleman]

7 sq.km is actually quite a lot of area. Remember that countries such as Vatican and Monaco are much smaller when compared to Liberland. Comparing Monaco to Liberland, the latter is having almost 4 times more area. And right now, Monaco is home to some 30,000 people. Therefore, Liberland is capable of accommodating up to 100,000 people.

[coric]

Well, at least the spot is on a place where you can survive, unlike Bir Tawil. Mosquitos? People live in the Danube Delta, and with some spray I didn't find it bothersome there.

But they will face a funny dilemma. The sanctity of private property is in the short manifesto, but the Liberlanders don't own any piece of the land. Imagine they get their state recognized, but all their land is owned by the Republic of Croatia, and they won't allow anyone to enter it..,

[countryfree]

7 sq.km is actually quite a lot of area. Remember that countries such as Vatican and Monaco are much smaller when compared to Liberland. Comparing Monaco to Liberland, the latter is having almost 4 times more area. And right now, Monaco is home to some 30,000 people. Therefore, Liberland is capable of accommodating up to 100,000 people.

Monaco has a Prince, the Vatican has a pope, both have centuries of history, monuments and beautiful people. What has Liberland besides mosquitoes? It would take billions to make a nice place out of Liberland, and then Serbia or Croatia would just claim everything is their property. I like the idea of creating a new country, but I don't see it as possible within Europe.

[sana54210]

There are so many micro nations but none have got any major recognition, lets see if Liberland does anything different to get some legitimacy, micronations have been formed for so many years but none got any big recognition or funding or any good  infrastructure or healthy economy.
You can find  here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations a list of micronations but none have claimed any significance in the global presence yet

[Wilikon]

There are so many micro nations but none have got any major recognition, lets see if Liberland does anything different to get some legitimacy, micronations have been formed for so many years but none got any big recognition or funding or any good  infrastructure or healthy economy.
You can find  here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations a list of micronations but none have claimed any significance in the global presence yet

What if... All those micro nations would adopt Bitcoin as their currency and have Liberland their BUN (Bitcoin United Nations)...

[sana54210]

There are so many micro nations but none have got any major recognition, lets see if Liberland does anything different to get some legitimacy, micronations have been formed for so many years but none got any big recognition or funding or any good  infrastructure or healthy economy.
You can find  here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations a list of micronations but none have claimed any significance in the global presence yet

What if... All those micro nations would adopt Bitcoin as their currency and have Liberland their BUN (Bitcoin United Nations)...

That will be cool but very unlikely that would happen

[Mike Christ]

These guys are all very naive; this nation is a joke (much like sealand), it's founded in an area where not much economic activity will occur due to constant flooding (why none of the larger political entities surrounding want it), and even if there was, they'd get sucked into the neighboring nations very easily since, even if they had a military, it wouldn't match up to a larger nation's military.  Not even larger nations are completely sovereign; America says jump, many smaller nations ask "How high?"

Anyway, cool display of protest nonetheless; I'm sure they'll get to keep their spot since it's not gonna be a threat to any existing power structures, plus the added bonus of people believing they're freer than they really are: "just look, you can go make your own nation too if you wanted, it'll just suck really bad so you may as well stay put."

[TheButterZone]

Where it floods, make all buildings able to float/anchor/raft together.

[Wilikon]

Where it floods, make all buildings able to float/anchor/raft together.

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[bryant.coleman]

7 sq.km is actually quite a lot of area. Remember that countries such as Vatican and Monaco are much smaller when compared to Liberland. Comparing Monaco to Liberland, the latter is having almost 4 times more area. And right now, Monaco is home to some 30,000 people. Therefore, Liberland is capable of accommodating up to 100,000 people.

Monaco has a Prince, the Vatican has a pope, both have centuries of history, monuments and beautiful people. What has Liberland besides mosquitoes? It would take billions to make a nice place out of Liberland, and then Serbia or Croatia would just claim everything is their property. I like the idea of creating a new country, but I don't see it as possible within Europe.

That is true. As per the international laws, Liberland is a part of Croatia, although the latter refuses to take ownership. Liberland is a worthless piece of forest right now, and there is no interest from the part of Croatia to reclaim it. However, if Liberland is able to attract significant investments, then it will no longer remain as worthless to Croatia.

[Wilikon]

7 sq.km is actually quite a lot of area. Remember that countries such as Vatican and Monaco are much smaller when compared to Liberland. Comparing Monaco to Liberland, the latter is having almost 4 times more area. And right now, Monaco is home to some 30,000 people. Therefore, Liberland is capable of accommodating up to 100,000 people.

Monaco has a Prince, the Vatican has a pope, both have centuries of history, monuments and beautiful people. What has Liberland besides mosquitoes? It would take billions to make a nice place out of Liberland, and then Serbia or Croatia would just claim everything is their property. I like the idea of creating a new country, but I don't see it as possible within Europe.

That is true. As per the international laws, Liberland is a part of Croatia, although the latter refuses to take ownership. Liberland is a worthless piece of forest right now, and there is no interest from the part of Croatia to reclaim it. However, if Liberland is able to attract significant investments, then it will no longer remain as worthless to Croatia.

Why would croatia refuse (officially?) to reclaim that land?

[bryant.coleman]

Why would croatia refuse (officially?) to reclaim that land?

Croatia wants the internationational community to recognize an alternate border demarcation line, which would place Liberland outside Croatia (in Serbia, to be precise) and include some 50 sq.km of the current Serbian territory inside Croatia.

Serbia, and the international community is refusing to recognize the alternate border demarcation line. The disputed Serbian-controlled territory is being administered by Serbia. But Croatia is refusing to administer the Liberland region, although it should be under their de facto control.

[countryfree]

I'm much amazed from this situation. I have yet to see any official reaction from Croatia or Serbia regarding Liberland. If I were to invest there, I would wait till they recognize the new country.