Hhampuz should be removed from the DT2

[FFrankie]

He left me this negative rating

"Extremely annoying towards me in all my public dealings (raffles, auctions). I would never trust killyou with any amount of money, considering past dealings and now this new behaviour. "

Last time I checked, that seems like an abuse of power because that is not what the trust system is used for, it is used if you have been scammed he is acting like a child

It all starts with this post by me

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2936436.msg30171826#msg30171826

and then him and his gang of friends started following me around to my threads,


When I ask for a simple timestamp with his username time date and the item, which is an extremely common practice I am unfairly tagged by him

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2985547.msg30721773#msg30721773

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[SaltySpitoon]

I see three claims against you regarding dodgy business practices, so I dont think the claims are unsubstantiated. It doesn't say that you have scammed anyone as indicated by the 0 BTC risked, it just says that due to your business practices, they wouldn't advise trading with you.

[owlcatz]

I see three claims against you regarding dodgy business practices, so I dont think the claims are unsubstantiated. It doesn't say that you have scammed anyone as indicated by the 0 BTC risked, it just says that due to your business practices, they wouldn't advise trading with you.

I've had many an argument and he's accused me of crazy things, but did apologize for most I think - My trust rating is still valid even if he offered me the same price, he's just shady and values everything in dollars. Lately he seems to have discovered meta or something and has been kind of acting all tough or something... 

His biggest thing was he used to change stuff mid-auction, or raffle etc. I don't necessarily think he's a scammer, but he's definitely got some communications issues. Hamp asked him a simple question, he got sort of a dickish (wrong) answer, then ky went back and crapped in Hamp's thread. Could have just said sorry in his own thread or whatever... . (Prior to trust rating). Idk..

[killyou73]

I see three claims against you regarding dodgy business practices, so I dont think the claims are unsubstantiated. It doesn't say that you have scammed anyone as indicated by the 0 BTC risked, it just says that due to your business practices, they wouldn't advise trading with you.

So you are saying it's okay to leave negative trust ratings when no scamming has been done?

That rating from zepher is over 2 years old.

Notserp I almost unknowingly sold him an item that I got an offer 10 times his later. Don't you think it's scammish to not tell someone how much their item is worth when they have no idea and low ball them?

I see three claims against you regarding dodgy business practices, so I dont think the claims are unsubstantiated. It doesn't say that you have scammed anyone as indicated by the 0 BTC risked, it just says that due to your business practices, they wouldn't advise trading with you.

I've had many an argument and he's accused me of crazy things, but did apologize for most I think - My trust rating is still valid even if he offered me the same price, he's just shady and values everything in dollars. Lately he seems to have discovered meta or something and has been kind of acting all tough or something...  

His biggest thing was he used to change stuff mid-auction, or raffle etc. I don't necessarily think he's a scammer, but he's definitely got some communications issues. Hamp asked him a simple question, he got sort of a dickish (wrong) answer, then ky went back and crapped in Hamp's thread. Could have just said sorry in his own thread or whatever... . (Prior to trust rating). Idk..

Where's the simple question that hhamp asked me?!

[SaltySpitoon]

So you are saying it's okay to leave negative trust ratings when no scamming has been done?

That rating from zepher is over 2 years old.

Notserp I almost unknowingly sold him an item that I got an offer 10 times his later. Don't you think it's scammish to not tell someone how much their item is worth when they have no idea and low ball them?

Yes it is, and while the rating from Zepher is over 2 years old, Hhampuz's feedback references "considering past dealings" which makes it applicable. Had the rating been solely for asking for additional details about an item in a vindictive way, I'd agree its an overreaction, but there is more referenced in the negative feedback which is supported by other claims.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.

[Hhampuz]

I do not consider you trustworthy for many different reasons, one being the fact you've been messing around in all of my latest threads. I've only asked you legitimate questions in your threads (questions that should never have to be asked but your layout and information is lackluster).

As you may have noticed I'm active in most threads in the collectibles section so it is not me or any "gang"(?) that is stalking you.

My negative will stick until you've proven to contribute and stopped with all the shady things.

[FFrankie]

So you are saying it's okay to leave negative trust ratings when no scamming has been done?

That rating from zepher is over 2 years old.

Notserp I almost unknowingly sold him an item that I got an offer 10 times his later. Don't you think it's scammish to not tell someone how much their item is worth when they have no idea and low ball them?

Yes it is, and while the rating from Zepher is over 2 years old, Hhampuz's feedback references "considering past dealings" which makes it applicable. Had the rating been solely for asking for additional details about an item in a vindictive way, I'd agree its an overreaction, but there is more referenced in the negative feedback which is supported by other claims.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.

You answered my first two questions but why not the third?

[SaltySpitoon]

You answered my first two questions but why not the third?

not relevant.

[actisstupidname]

My negative will stick until you've proven to contribute and stopped with all the shady things.

You mean shady things like this? (merit trading with alt) 

USER PROFILE : killyou72
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=924110
PROOF: https://imgur.com/Eobs2gL
http://archive.is/4489x

[Lauda]

There was a time when I was contemplating whether to tag you or not for your behavior (maybe I even did?). Thus, I don't see an issue with his negative rating.

[TMAN]

Tag was needed killyou.  Stop the crazy and the trolling of the snowman and he may change it..

Edit: did you really fucking give yourself merit from your alt? You have a thread for merit abusers and do it yourself?? You are one special kind of crazy man

[walterw]

Edit: did you really fucking give yourself merit from your alt? You have a thread for merit abusers and do it yourself?? You are one special kind of crazy man

[TMAN]

Edit: did you really fucking give yourself merit from your alt? You have a thread for merit abusers and do it yourself?? You are one special kind of crazy man

surely this is worthy of a Tag? the bloke is so special he needs his own tag.. like escaped from the mental home crazy.

[walterw]

surely this is worthy of a Tag? the bloke is so special he needs his own tag.. like escaped from the mental home crazy.

I've just noticed that he has not been tagged yet. Is there an explanation?  

Edit: And he participates in the same campaign with both accounts. Very strange.   Maybe the OP can explain that. 

[TMAN]

surely this is worthy of a Tag? the bloke is so special he needs his own tag.. like escaped from the mental home crazy.

I've just noticed that he has not been tagged yet. Is there an explanation? 

Well we all know that OG doesn't tag his scamclub members as he is just happy that people invest in his shit, suprised that Lauda hasn't tagged.

[FFrankie]

I wanted to see how merit worked, I didnt quite understand it. If I wanted to abuse it, I would have used my main account to rank up my side account. I skimmed over theymos post and initially wanted nothing to do with merit, and after sending merit merit from my side to my main and rereading the merit thread that merit doesnt refresh every month I gave out large chunks of merit to get rid of all of my merit so I would not have to be bothered with it. But then after a few hours/days, after seeing everyone complain, I realized I could have given my merit out betterly than to people that really didnt "need" it to rank up.

[TMAN]

I wanted to see how merit worked, I didnt quite understand it. If I wanted to abuse it, I would have used my main account to rank up my side account. I skimmed over theymos post and initially wanted nothing to do with merit, and after sending merit merit from my side to my main and rereading the merit thread that merit doesnt refresh every month I gave out large chunks of merit to get rid of all of my merit so I would not have to be bothered with it. But then after a few hours/days, after seeing everyone complain, I realized I could have given my merit out betterly than to people that really didnt "need" it to rank up.

Zzzzzz deserves a tag

[actisstupidname]

I wanted to see how merit worked, I didnt quite understand it.

Where did I read this excuse before?  Oh, that's right! The countless red-tagged accounts complaining about unfair treatment. 

[TMAN]

I wanted to see how merit worked, I didnt quite understand it.

Where did I read this excuse before?  Oh, that's right! The countless red-tagged accounts complaining about unfair treatment. 

I agree he should be tagged. Just because he is as stupid as a burnt log doesn't mean it's a decent excuse

[EcuaMobi]

I think Hhampuz's feedback on OP is a little too harsh. Personally I'd replace it with a neutral, but it's Hhampuz's decision and it's understandable.

Zzzzzz deserves a tag

Where did I read this excuse before?  Oh, that's right! The countless red-tagged accounts complaining about unfair treatment. 

I've checked this and had a couple of PMs with OP. I don't think this deserves negative trust because:

• It was done less than 12h after the merit system was implemented, very likely OP had just found out about it as he claims
• The account that received the merit points is the main one, not a newbie one trying to rank up
• Only 6 points were sent. The account killyou72 has received a lot of other points, including from trusted members, so 6 don't represent too much in comparison
• OP never tried to hide the fact that's his alt account. If he wanted to abuse the merit system he would have made it more difficult to find out