Liberty Reserve still down?

[sippsnapp]

First, i did not found a fitting category so i post this in the newb section.

Liberty reserve was not available the last days, yesterday they posted on their blog that the problems have been solved http://blog.libertyreserve.com/ .

I still can not access the login page, is there anybody else with the same problem or is it working for you?

[DeathAndTaxes]

No it is still down, probably a very bad sign.  Our company has a small amount on there.

It does show the strength of Bitcoin though.  LR was a completely opaque and centralized system.   It is entirely possible that they got greedy and decided to introduce some fractional reserve system.  More profits, more leverage, more fun.  Or they had some fraud/theft and hid that by simply inflating the amount of LR (in fiat currencies undetected counterfeiting adds to inflation).  Such a system could work fine for months or years unless you get a large imbalance of withdraws vs deposits.  Then you have a bank run ... well unless you have a 2 hour, 3 day, 8 day "scheduled" maintenance.

[sippsnapp]

Yeah, indeed, right now i feel like withdrawing there and buying bitcoins.
Wanted to do so when the coins where tanking bt sadly it was already down.
However, im getting nervous concerning my lr account .

[loadrs2009]

No it is still down, probably a very bad sign.  Our company has a small amount on there.

It does show the strength of Bitcoin though.  LR was a completely opaque and centralized system.   It is entirely possible that they got greedy and decided to introduce some fractional reserve system.  More profits, more leverage, more fun.  Or they had some fraud/theft and hid that by simply inflating the amount of LR (in fiat currencies undetected counterfeiting adds to inflation).  Such a system could work fine for months or years unless you get a large imbalance of withdraws vs deposits.  Then you have a bank run ... well unless you have a 2 hour, 3 day, 8 day "scheduled" maintenance.

totally i agree with this i have 600$ there hope they wont scam me .

[jasoncol]

Same here. Still waiting. I hope it's just a maintenance that took longer than expected.

[beetlebrow]

Oooer, that doesn't sound good. I have a few bob in there. Will have to keep a beady eye on this.

[Stephen Gornick]

No it is still down, probably a very bad sign.

The were down for nearly two weeks in 2011, a lot of people wrote them off and they came back like nothing happened.

So this second year in a row now.  If they do come back, then that possibly means they are getting a full audit, possibly by their regulators there and are turning over the data (neiither of which would they or could they reveal to anyone, of course).

But allegedly their non-reversible payments aren't so "non-reversible":

 - https://twitter.com/briankrebs/status/237939638860402688

Another thread on the topic:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101955.0

[ryan32]

wait 

[sippsnapp]

Its up again as it seems.

[Stephen Gornick]

Its up again as it seems.

Negatory.  Try to login:  Yup, it is up.

 - https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/login

Hit refresh

[Stephen Gornick]

Bah ... just a tease.

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