Electrical Upgrade Q

[buttmilk]

I just bought 2 Terraminer iv's... Running them for a short time caused my power to cut off, had to go to the fusebox and switch it back on. Clearly, too much power being used at once so I go on the netz and read that a circuit can only take max. 1800-2400 watts before it shorts.

What are your solutions for upgrading the amount of power your home system can take? Saw this vid that was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhMja7u_yA

But interested in hearing other solutions.. thanks.

[notlist3d]

I just bought 2 Terraminer iv's... Running them for a short time caused my power to cut off, had to go to the fusebox and switch it back on. Clearly, too much power being used at once so I go on the netz and read that a circuit can only take max. 1800-2400 watts before it shorts.

What are your solutions for upgrading the amount of power your home system can take? Saw this vid that was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhMja7u_yA

But interested in hearing other solutions.. thanks.

It depends on 110 or 220.  A 110 is not going to get you 2400 watts.   It depends on amps, but normally 1800-1900 watts. You could do exact math if you know the amp's it says on the circuit breaker.

It looks like that device takes your stove electricity.  I would check box and make sure it's 220/240 and how many amps.  But that breaker is very different then the 110 I think you were reading about.

[aurel57]

I just bought 2 Terraminer iv's... Running them for a short time caused my power to cut off, had to go to the fusebox and switch it back on. Clearly, too much power being used at once so I go on the netz and read that a circuit can only take max. 1800-2400 watts before it shorts.

What are your solutions for upgrading the amount of power your home system can take? Saw this vid that was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhMja7u_yA

But interested in hearing other solutions.. thanks.

Your best to just have a qualified person come in and look at your panel and incoming power to let you know what your options are.

[philipma1957]

I just bought 2 Terraminer iv's... Running them for a short time caused my power to cut off, had to go to the fusebox and switch it back on. Clearly, too much power being used at once so I go on the netz and read that a circuit can only take max. 1800-2400 watts before it shorts.

What are your solutions for upgrading the amount of power your home system can take? Saw this vid that was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhMja7u_yA

But interested in hearing other solutions.. thanks.

well first off where are you and what are your local laws about upgrades.

I live in New Jersey I am a homeowner and I am allowed to upgrade my home power.

If you  are allowed to do it yourself but don't know what you are doing don't do it.  I will watch your video link.

Okay I watched it do not buy it here is why you have no idea what plug your stove is using. also if you cook you need your stove.

I would love to see a photo of your breaker box.  Give me 10 minutes to photo what I did.

   Don't kill yourself or shock yourself or anyone else make sure your hire the right person

ten gauge wire two hots into a 2 pole breaker


the two hot ten gauge wires


the ten gauge ground along with the hot 10 gauge wire got right to a 240 plug


better view of ground and 2 hot wires



A 240 volt plug I put in .  1 plug direct to those circuit breakers in the breaker box.

this plug is a 240 volt l6 30 r


lastly a 240 volt pdu with a l6 30p  240 plug

[aurel57]

Just remember if your going to wire 220V you must use a double breaker. If you look at Phils pictures the panel is divided into two sides the left side is 110v and the right side is 110v. Those single breakers are just pulling 110v off one side and the double breaker pulls 110v off BOTH sides to get your 2 legs =220v

[philipma1957]

Just remember if your going to wire 220V you must use a double breaker. If you look at Phils pictures the panel is divided into two sides the left side is 110v and the right side is 110v. Those single breakers are just pulling 110v off one side and the double breaker pulls 110v off BOTH sides to get your 2 legs =220v

yes and some panels are fucked up .

  you need to be sure that your  2 pole breaker has tabs to connect to.

my old 100 amp box that was put in  1970 was modified so that only one 2 pole breaker could connect and do 240 power.

WHEN  I rewired the  house in 1995 from aluminum to copper I did everything but the new circuit breaker box.  I hired a guy to put in a 150 amp service

but it had a full set of tabs which allowed for 2 pole breakers in any spot I wanted.

I was able to make two 1 pole 120volt receptacles become two 2 pole 240volt receptacles since each one was a dedicated receptacle.

Ie   circuit breaker box >>>>>>>>>>> receptacle

If you are :

circuit breaker box>>>>>>>>>>>>>receptacle >>>>>>>>>>receptacle>>>>>>>>>>>receptacle 


I would not do that line since you may miss a socket and kill off 120 gear. I would only do a single socket from 120 to 240

 
change  the normal socket to this one :

[MCHouston]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker 

[notlist3d]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

[philipma1957]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker 

temporary I am picking up a ge very soon.

[Prelude]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

Nothing wrong with Square D, they make good stuff.

If laws in the US are anything like in Canada, you might have an insurance problem if there's a fire. You should only use GE breakers in a GE panel, even if a different brand fits. Insurance companies will do their best to find a reason not to pay, and using the wrong breaker is a golden ticket for them.

My main panel in my house is a Cuttler-Hammer, and my panel in my detached garage is Seimens. Both brands of breakers are interchangeable, and I've done it in a pinch, but you need to be aware of possible insurance problems if there's a fire.

[MCHouston]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

Their breakers are okay some of their load centers are cheap depending what you order  usually AL bus or unplaced copper, half the time other manufacturers breakers do not fit cause tolerances are slightly off.  As where Cuttler, GE, Siemens and Eaton I have never had a fitment problem with different manufacturers of breakers.

Mainly just the fitment issue that bugs me, as you can order Square D's with plated copper bus as well.

[MCHouston]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

Nothing wrong with Square D, they make good stuff.

If laws in the US are anything like in Canada, you might have an insurance problem if there's a fire. You should only use GE breakers in a GE panel, even if a different brand fits. Insurance companies will do their best to find a reason not to pay, and using the wrong breaker is a golden ticket for them.

My main panel in my house is a Cuttler-Hammer, and my panel in my detached garage is Seimens. Both brands of breakers are interchangeable, and I've done it in a pinch, but you need to be aware of possible insurance problems if there's a fire.

In the US as long as the type of breaker is for the panel, and you didn't "mod" any of the tandem breakers to go in a full sized slot you are okay with insurance.

The big no no in the US is AL wiring in the home, that will really piss off your insurance if there is a fire.

[philipma1957]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

Nothing wrong with Square D, they make good stuff.

If laws in the US are anything like in Canada, you might have an insurance problem if there's a fire. You should only use GE breakers in a GE panel, even if a different brand fits. Insurance companies will do their best to find a reason not to pay, and using the wrong breaker is a golden ticket for them.

My main panel in my house is a Cuttler-Hammer, and my panel in my detached garage is Seimens. Both brands of breakers are interchangeable, and I've done it in a pinch, but you need to be aware of possible insurance problems if there's a fire.

In the US as long as the type of breaker is for the panel, and you didn't "mod" any of the tandem breakers to go in a full sized slot you are okay with insurance.

The big no no in the US is AL wiring in the home, that will really piss off your insurance if there is a fire.

yep  which is why my 1970 home needed 100% of my wires replaced with copper.

[notlist3d]

philipma1957,

You ruined your nice GE load center by putting in a cheap Square D breaker  

I don't know why some have a hate for Square D.  In my newest subpanal it is a mix of GE and Square D.  Neither brand ever has problems.  I think both work great.

But that could just be me.

Nothing wrong with Square D, they make good stuff.

If laws in the US are anything like in Canada, you might have an insurance problem if there's a fire. You should only use GE breakers in a GE panel, even if a different brand fits. Insurance companies will do their best to find a reason not to pay, and using the wrong breaker is a golden ticket for them.

My main panel in my house is a Cuttler-Hammer, and my panel in my detached garage is Seimens. Both brands of breakers are interchangeable, and I've done it in a pinch, but you need to be aware of possible insurance problems if there's a fire.

In the US as long as the type of breaker is for the panel, and you didn't "mod" any of the tandem breakers to go in a full sized slot you are okay with insurance.

The big no no in the US is AL wiring in the home, that will really piss off your insurance if there is a fire.

yep  which is why my 1970 home needed 100% of my wires replaced with copper.

I live in a family farm house.  Part's of it are over 100 years old.   Needless to say it's had a few electricity rewires over the years. It's had lots of additions over the years.   The newest big addition was around 10 years ago, a lot of electrical was redone then.