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August 25, 2012, 10:05:44 PM
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Hi,
I made an FOIPA request to the FBI some time ago and just received the processing letter.  I thought I might as well make a thread on this.

I'm going to be posting replies to this dropbox folder: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m3gihhnsabzfrnu/lv9_TkkdfX

Sadly, I do not have a scanner.  So all that's on there are pics, and maybe a text file if I have time.

-Daniel
EDIT: Looked around the house and found a scanner, scanned version on the Dropbox now.  

EDIT: Status Change: New Status:

"The FBI's FOI/PA Program has identified potential responsive information to your request(s) and is forwarding this request(s) for assignment to a FOI/PA Legal Administrative Specialist (LAS) for further processing." -- From http://vault.fbi.gov/fdps-1/search-fdps?foipa=1197064-000

I'll post the letter when I get it.

EDIT: New status again!
"The FBI's FOI/PA Program is processing your request in accordance to the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts guidelines." -- From http://vault.fbi.gov/fdps-1/search-fdps?foipa=1197064-000

I think this means that they are mailing me the final letter, not sure though.

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August 26, 2012, 02:12:39 AM
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Sadly, I do not have a scanner.  So all that's on there are pics

Heh, that's a challenge.  Can anyone make out what it says?
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August 26, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
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Sadly, I do not have a scanner.  So all that's on there are pics

Heh, that's a challenge.  Can anyone make out what it says?
I'll see if I can get it scanned somewhere else.  Might take a day or two though.


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August 26, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
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Sadly, I do not have a scanner.  So all that's on there are pics

Heh, that's a challenge.  Can anyone make out what it says?
I'll see if I can get it scanned somewhere else.  Might take a day or two though.



CamScanner should do the trick, but only if you have an android phone

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August 26, 2012, 01:58:02 PM
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Sadly, I do not have a scanner.  So all that's on there are pics

Heh, that's a challenge.  Can anyone make out what it says?
I'll see if I can get it scanned somewhere else.  Might take a day or two though.



CamScanner should do the trick, but only if you have an android phone
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August 26, 2012, 02:08:49 PM
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Edited with "scanned" version.

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August 26, 2012, 05:51:25 PM
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can you explain what this means ? as a non US citizen, I do not know what this is about

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August 26, 2012, 05:59:12 PM
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Which case are you requesting information on? Anything at all related to BITCOIN or a specific case?

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August 26, 2012, 06:00:56 PM
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Which case are you requesting information on? Anything at all related to BITCOIN or a specific case?

"Description of Request: I would like to have records relating to the digital crypto-currency known as Bitcoin, and any other subjects relating to crypto-currencies.

Please search the FBI’s indices to the Central Records System for the information responsive to this request related to: Crypto-Currencies, and the crypto-currency Bitcoin."

That was from the request I sent them.  Crypto-currencies and Bitcoin.

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August 26, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
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can you explain what this means ? as a non US citizen, I do not know what this is about

found this below but also interested to understand the aim of OP.

http://www.opm.gov/investigate/about/orgs/foipa.aspx














 

 

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August 26, 2012, 06:03:17 PM
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Which case are you requesting information on? Anything at all related to BITCOIN or a specific case?

"Description of Request: I would like to have records relating to the digital crypto-currency known as Bitcoin, and any other subjects relating to crypto-currencies.

Please search the FBI’s indices to the Central Records System for the information responsive to this request related to: Crypto-Currencies, and the crypto-currency Bitcoin."

That was from the request I sent them.  Crypto-currencies and Bitcoin.

Gotcha, will be very interesting to see what they have in their files thus far.

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August 26, 2012, 06:04:40 PM
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can you explain what this means ? as a non US citizen, I do not know what this is about
Sorry, missed your post.  An FOIPA request (freedom of information act request) is a request under a law in the U.S. that forces government agencies to give any information that wouldn't put them at risk to anyone.

Sort-of a summed up version.

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August 26, 2012, 06:05:40 PM
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can you explain what this means ? as a non US citizen, I do not know what this is about

found this below but also interested to understand the aim of OP.

http://www.opm.gov/investigate/about/orgs/foipa.aspx
My aim is to see what they have on Bitcoin.  Curiosity, mainly.  Seems interesting.

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August 31, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
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Bump 4 New Info.

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September 01, 2012, 12:22:38 AM
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Bump 4 New Info.

Awesome, can't wait to see what they have come up with and are able to release so far. Thanks for the update.

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September 10, 2012, 09:03:39 PM
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Bump for new info!

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September 17, 2012, 04:14:10 AM
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You request has been denied do to Disclosure could Reasonably be expected to interfere with pending of prospective enforcement proceedings.
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September 17, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
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You request has been denied do to Disclosure could Reasonably be expected to interfere with pending of prospective enforcement proceedings.

Where did you get that from?  Or are you just trolling?
On http://vault.fbi.gov/fdps-1/search-fdps?foipa=1197064-000 it still says:
"The FBI's FOI/PA Program is processing your request in accordance to the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts guidelines."

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February 03, 2013, 03:02:27 PM
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OP updated with the ETA of response (I got this as a response).

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February 09, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
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Freedom of Information and Privacy Act (FOIPA) sounds great. However, is it really as great as it sounds ? How many persons are responsible for finding the information that somebody requests ? And how can we trust that all information is handed over ? It seems like it's very easy for an official not to hand over some specific information because of [randomexcuse/law], and the person who initiated the FOIPA would be non the wiser. I guess there are laws governing this, but they're not worth more than the people actually processing the requests, and who's overseeing them, and do the overseers just accept any report they receive, or do they do any investigation on their own?

I feel it's a bit like the white house petitions. We care blablabla.. But in reality the most powerful party twist anything to their advantage anyway.

It's not like we're going to get the FBI papers about how they're working in regards to ongoing cases, or future cases.

Apparently there's a leaked memo from the FBI regarding bitcoin:
http://cryptome.org/2012/05/fbi-bitcoin.pdf

And as we can see from all the wikileaks cables, the Us Govt. are big liars, and they do fear the truth, how can we at all trust such a government - with anything at all ? How can we trust that they process our requests in a fair way ? Sorry, I don't trust them at all. And when you receive a response, and they say: This is what we've got, and they given you some token information, you have no way of knowing that this information is all they've got.

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