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April 21, 2015, 06:26:34 AM
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What happened:got 0.3btc to manage sig firstly and ask for another 0.3btc for design. I just gave him 0.3btc. when I found he do nothing I ask him to return ,but he said he has no money must wait for the sig his is in this thursday.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372600

Reference Link: this
Amount Scammed: 0.3btc
Payment Method:Bitcoins
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/984040bc3b15e8a3ccc7a6f1b2634f8ba235104230a1462a9c9de836b9f44157
PM/Chat Logs: as listed above
Additional Notes:he is very good at English ,and make promises everywhere.



   


After what happened there is no one or maybe very few that will trust the site. if they see that you are willing to spend money and is really serious for your sig campaign to promote the site then they will start to love your site. All we need is a good design trust me

we do things step by step , I have sent you 0.3btc and you ask for another 0.3 ,that is not good. what ever the reason for . it is not safe for me.

if you like ,we  have following solution
1.you use simple sig firstly.and use escrow to start the compaign.
2.you send the 0.3btc(I sent you) to the designer, and I will pay the adv.

we can not just buying respect ,that's expensive . respect comes from our service and fair game my friend,not from adv.

If we use the simple sig it will not attract people, people will look for an effort for advertisinG. I know what im doing man, pls trust me on this i will never let you down. everything ia almost done, except for the signature. I already did an effort writing for your sig campaign. All you need to do now is just a little more effort.

I saw you moved the bitcoin I sent you , I am so sorry , trust goes step by step.

first step I sent you 0.3btc ,second you should do sth not just asking for more btcs for any reason.

if you want ,you can start the sig cam with your main account. not a new one.



Ive move it to my main address. I dont want to be linked to your account for now while everything is not good.

I have paid 0.3btc to you , I allow you to use this 0.3 pay for the sig design.

be confident, we will be fine. and stronger.

if i use this to pay the designer, then there is no more funds in escrow which is the real problem for us. This will be the last time We will need extra funds just because of the design for preparation. the address that i sent to you is the designers address, he is asking for the payment

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I have paid 0.3btc to you , I allow you to use this 0.3 pay for the sig design.

be confident, we will be fine. and stronger.

if i use this to pay the designer, then there is no more funds in escrow which is the real problem for us. This will be the last time We will need extra funds just because of the design for preparatino. the address that i sent to you is the designers address, he is asking for the payment


Are you using dznuts for escrow? he is not a reputed member and hasnt open up escrow service before. If he claim designer wants payment, then let the designer send the address themselves

Dznuts, please clarify, who is the designer?
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April 21, 2015, 09:04:28 AM
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waiting for his money   23-04 as he promise.

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April 24, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
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LOL its not mine. its an exchange address.. dont you notice it dont have outgoing transaction?
but you said it is yours. my friend ,dont lie


After what happened there is no one or maybe very few that will trust the site. if they see that you are willing to spend money and is really serious for your sig campaign to promote the site then they will start to love your site. All we need is a good design trust me

we do things step by step , I have sent you 0.3btc and you ask for another 0.3 ,that is not good. what ever the reason for . it is not safe for me.

if you like ,we  have following solution
1.you use simple sig firstly.and use escrow to start the compaign.
2.you send the 0.3btc(I sent you) to the designer, and I will pay the adv.

we can not just buying respect ,that's expensive . respect comes from our service and fair game my friend,not from adv.

If we use the simple sig it will not attract people, people will look for an effort for advertisinG. I know what im doing man, pls trust me on this i will never let you down. everything ia almost done, except for the signature. I already did an effort writing for your sig campaign. All you need to do now is just a little more effort.

I saw you moved the bitcoin I sent you , I am so sorry , trust goes step by step.

first step I sent you 0.3btc ,second you should do sth not just asking for more btcs for any reason.

if you want ,you can start the sig cam with your main account. not a new one.



Ive move it to my main address. I dont want to be linked to your account for now while everything is not good.

yeah its my mine address. but it doesnt mean i own the funds inside it. its a exchange address. i only own the recent transaction, when i send the money, it uses deiffrent address that is why that address doesnt have outgoing transaction

can you see outgoing transaction from that address?

your English is very good,and you can work for us. as a English staff.  haha

try to register here.. coins.ph so you will know how it works.

i can work with you if you want without salary.. are you serious about it?

 how much is your sig pay ,and when .

it will reach about 0.2BTC on thursday

show me the link

http://bitsig.website/beta/

enter my userID: 372600

when is the next payment time?

This thursday afternoon



I am sorry some message me that I can not lock the scam accuses while you are in fact using my money.

I think you should find some money and return to me firslt and I close everything .

and you go on with your sig. It should not me to wait you for the thursday, right?

Its ok i wont force you to close it. But just to let you know, if i aint got my sig payment because of thaf i wont be able to pay you

that's my money ,you shouldn't threaten me . my friend.



Im not threatening you. Im just saying the fact that if i dont get payment i cant pay you. what is hard to understand about that?






when?

Im still waiting for the wd of payment


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April 24, 2015, 02:11:02 AM
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OP you should clearly explain exactly what happened besides just posting the PMs. Is dznuts the middle man to hire the designer? Why didn't you contact the designer directly? Or is making the design?
Include all the information as explained here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0, especially mention the exact original agreement you reached.

I will PM dznuts85 to ask for his version.

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April 24, 2015, 02:34:02 AM
Last edit: April 24, 2015, 03:02:14 AM by girlbtc.com
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What happened:got 0.3btc to manage sig firstly and ask for another 0.3btc for design. I just gave him 0.3btc. when I found he do nothing I ask him to return ,but he said he has no money must wait for the sig his is in this thursday.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372600

Reference Link: this
Amount Scammed: 0.3btc
Payment Method:Bitcoins
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/984040bc3b15e8a3ccc7a6f1b2634f8ba235104230a1462a9c9de836b9f44157
PM/Chat Logs: as listed above
Additional Notes:he is very good at English ,and make promises everywhere.



   

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April 24, 2015, 02:43:56 AM
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Wow this is the worst formatted report I've ever seen. At least remove the 'code' tags, format it correctly and include that in OP.
Regardless sharing the original agreement you reached would help. What was the amount you agreed? Was he supposed to give any progress reports? What was the time limit? You're also missing the proof of payment.

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April 24, 2015, 02:51:33 AM
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OP am i right thinking...

dznuts85 messaged you asking to be your signature campaign manager and for some reason you agreed to let him with no experience and not the best post history boarder line massive spammer run your campaign,, he then asks for 0.3btc for the signatures which is a very nice price for professionally done signatures plus some funds for runners up.

He then moves the funds for no reason at all, well his reason was so people never thought the funds was from you hmmm the campaign is for you so it should be very obvious that the funds were from you lol after this he asks for more funds 0.3 to be exact to pay even more for the signatures which brings it to a total of '0.6btc'!

This is around 3 x to much and should never have been asked for he clearly wanted his bit of the cake.

Please tell me if i have the events in order?

EDIT... Right... I see from your edited post above where you are much more clear that this exactly what has happened.. You should not need to wait for any funds from his campaign  Huh Also as stated please provide txid of the sent funds.

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Wow this is the worst formatted report I've ever seen. At least remove the 'code' tags, format it correctly and include that in OP.
Regardless sharing the original agreement you reached would help. What was the amount you agreed? Was he supposed to give any progress reports? What was the time limit? You're also missing the proof of payment.

True, can't understand much from it or from the OP.

But as little as I understand from OP's version:

OP hired dznuts for the sig campaign apparently and sent him 0.3 for it.
dznuts responded that sigs are not pretty enough and needs to be re-done and asked for more money.
OP replied that he doesn't wants that and asked that either start with the same sig and escrow the amount or return the money.
dznuts insisted that he knows what he's doing and the sigs need to be re-done.
OP doesn't likes the idea and asks him to return the funds.
dznuts moves the funds to his own address.
OP starts to see that maybe he will not get his refund, so he threatens to open this thread and stop his sig payment, which he did.

That's what I get from this so far..

 

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April 24, 2015, 02:57:24 AM
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Jesus Christ this is a mess...
Ill help out with what i gathered

dznuts85 changed his btc address in his profile for some reason, but doesnt matter, i found it, as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010937.10 his original address is 1cS2pLmSS3tRw4dmXyzTwGoZkAnnQbSFT
Proof of payment would probably be this : https://blockchain.info/de/tx/984040bc3b15e8a3ccc7a6f1b2634f8ba235104230a1462a9c9de836b9f44157

He then moved the funds https://blockchain.info/de/tx/426162149a40ec45383d38ae590023fd1b0a92f751e164e3c1d080c7dfba26dc , to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 , an address that belongs to
banned known scammer as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975540.0

I'm flagging account until i see some explanations from dznuts85
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April 24, 2015, 03:02:04 AM
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Jesus Christ this is a mess...
Ill help out with what i gathered

dznuts85 changed his btc address in his profile for some reason, but doesnt matter, i found it, as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010937.10 his original address is 1cS2pLmSS3tRw4dmXyzTwGoZkAnnQbSFT
Proof of payment would probably be this : https://blockchain.info/de/tx/984040bc3b15e8a3ccc7a6f1b2634f8ba235104230a1462a9c9de836b9f44157

He then moved the funds https://blockchain.info/de/tx/426162149a40ec45383d38ae590023fd1b0a92f751e164e3c1d080c7dfba26dc , to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 , an address that belongs to
banned known scammer as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975540.0

I'm flagging account until i see some explanations from dznuts85

Yes I think that chain of events is what happened but I find it so disturbing that we need to guess. We don't have the complete facts from either side.
Nice find regarding the connection between the accused and a known scammer. Someone from default trust must flag that account too until this is solved [done].

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April 24, 2015, 03:17:07 AM
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If this is true, I doubt OP will get his money back, dznuts85 will just move to another account and then start to scam again. It's scammer behaviour so far.

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April 24, 2015, 03:29:05 AM
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I hope the OP hasn't sent any coin to pokerowned...

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April 24, 2015, 03:32:26 AM
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I hope the OP hasn't sent any coin to pokerowned...
He sent them to me. I am escrow for the signature campaign contest.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1030340.msg11139547#msg11139547

But yea the OP needs several lessons on how to protect his money and how to maintain his reputation.

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I buy this account and now with red trust. Sad

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I buy this account and now with red trust. Sad

Yes sure. When did you buy it? From whom? What thread was is sold on?
I guess this means (regardless of it being true or a scammer's excuse) OP won't get his coins back.

Edit: According to seclog dznuts85's password was changed yesterday, presumably if the account was really sold it was then. However this thread was created before that.

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I buy this account and now with red trust. Sad

Yes sure. When did you buy it? From whom? What thread was is sold on?
I guess this means (regardless of it being true or a scammer's excuse) OP won't get his coins back.

Edit: According to seclog dznuts85's password was changed yesterday, presumably if the account was really sold it was then. However this thread was created before that.

He send pm if i want buy his account and i say yes and he give password and i give bitcoins

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I buy this account and now with red trust. Sad

Yes sure. When did you buy it? From whom? What thread was is sold on?
I guess this means (regardless of it being true or a scammer's excuse) OP won't get his coins back.

Edit: According to seclog dznuts85's password was changed yesterday, presumably if the account was really sold it was then. However this thread was created before that.

He send pm if i want buy his account and i say yes and he give password and i give bitcoins
Yea that seems legit /s

Why would he send a PM to a random person like that? It would be much easier to sell via a thread.

Either way the .3 btc the OP sent to you is well above the value of your account so the OP is unlikely to get repaid with or without the account being sold.

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I buy this account and now with red trust. Sad

Yes sure. When did you buy it? From whom? What thread was is sold on?
I guess this means (regardless of it being true or a scammer's excuse) OP won't get his coins back.

Edit: According to seclog dznuts85's password was changed yesterday, presumably if the account was really sold it was then. However this thread was created before that.

He send pm if i want buy his account and i say yes and he give password and i give bitcoins

This thread was created way before that and locked since OP decided to give him the benefit of doubt, I pmed OP asking him to unlock it so that people can be aware of this but OP trusted this guy and said that he will return it on thursday, yet OP not taken any advice from me, so I hope that this is a good experience for him.


can you clarify on this? has he sent the 0.3 to another wallet and use it? please dont lock the thread of the scam accusation

yes he moved and used. and he promise to return it to me this thursday afternoon , so I locked the thread。

No, dont lock it, so that people can see the matter about it. unlock it and post that dznuts using the funds for personal matter and will return it on thursday, otherwise you are letting a potential scammer to get away with this

Anyway im Not buying on the story that the account is sold, it is the same story all over after an account is tagged with red trust

1. Why would someone taking an account that someone suddenly PMed him without raising any red flag for him?surely a lie
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April 24, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
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dznuts85 , are u familiar with these accounts :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=495739
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343951
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343331
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343326
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343265
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343959
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=313998

If we choose to play along that u bought this account, how much did u pay, and please post TX of payment , along with information, from who did u buy it from?

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