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June 21, 2015, 06:42:31 AM
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Even if people could get away from using Google by using DuckDuckGo for searching and other workarounds, would they?

I think many people get a quick momentary feeling of elation when they use something they see as being high-tech and really useful. I think they view themselves in Google's light, seeing themselves as having the cool factor and resourcefulness of PageRank that Google provides. People think they're high-tech themselves when they use Google; that would have to change.
There's always the emotional factor(s), since humans decide things based on non-linear and irrational things.
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June 21, 2015, 08:05:52 AM
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Today we have Google (GOOGL). Don’t let the geeky façade, whimsical multicolored logo and “don’t be evil” mantra fool you. Google may very well be the most sinister threat and wicked incarnation of them all.

In an interview with the Atlantic almost five years ago, the search empire’s dark lord himself, Eric Schmidt, said, “Google policy is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it.” He said, “I would argue that implanting things in your brain is beyond the creepy line … at least for the moment until the technology gets better.”

Then things got even creepier when Schmidt said, “We don’t need you to type at all because we know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less guess what you’re thinking about.” Then he paused and asked, “Is that over the line?”

Clearly, this creepy virtual line of Google’s is not just a moving target but a highly subjective one. How do they know when they’ve crossed it? Perhaps the more appropriate question to ask is how many lines does Google have to cross before its executives realize – before we realize – that they’re doing evil?

It’s easy to forget that Google once had a deep partnership with Apple. Then, while Steve Jobs mentored co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin and Schmidt sat on Apple’s (AAPL) board of directors, Android magically transformed from a BlackBerry-like (BBRY) phone with a physical keyboard into an iPhone clone.

And all the while – right up until the Federal Trade Commission forced Schmidt off Apple’s board on anticompetitive concerns – he maintained that Android did not compete with iPhone. A year later, Apple’s iPad was immediately followed by Android tablets which I’m sure were not competitors either.

Does that cross the line? Is that evil? Jobs certainly thought so. He was furious over the betrayal, calling Android “a stolen product” and vowing to “go thermonuclear war” on Google in Walter Isaacson’s biography of Apple’s iconic CEO.   

Between Google Search, Gmail, Maps, Android, YouTube, Glass, Now, Books, Wallet, Chromecast, Wear, Nest and its alliance with car companies, Google now knows more about you than you do. It knows what you want, where you are, whom you’re with, what you read, what you buy, even what pictures and videos you create and look at.

As Infoworld’s Robert X. Cringely so aptly put it, “Santa works for Google now.” 

While much of that is ostensibly “with your permission” and to “improve your search results,” as Schmidt says repeatedly, that’s just part of the story. Permissions are notoriously difficult to find and manage. And when you’re logged into your Google account, rest assured that the omnipresent eyes of Google are upon you.

Remember that nearly all of Google’s massive profits and revenues come from search advertising. That’s what funds the company’s ever-expanding presence in our lives. So when Schmidt or Page talk about improving search results, they really mean improving their ability to target you with contextual ads.

Not to sound paranoid or conspiratorial, but before long, those ads won’t just be limited to computer screens. They’ll be anywhere and everywhere Google can reach you.

And that’s just for starters. The Google Empire is expanding into everything from self-driving cars and virtual reality to broadband fiber and neural networks. It’s even collecting genetic and molecular information from thousands of people to map humans in a way that’s eerily reminiscent of how it maps the world’s streets.

Page says he wants Google to be much, much larger than it is today. In a Wired interview where he talked about the dozens of disparate projects the company has going on – what they call moon shots – he said, “Imagine what we could do if we had a hundred times as many employees. Anything is scalable.”

That would give the company millions of employees and make Google far and away the biggest and most powerful company in history. You would think the U.S. Justice Department or the FTC might have something to say about that. But then, you’d be wrong.

Last month the Wall Street Journal obtained a 160-page report from the trade agency’s bureau of competition that recommended the commission bring an antitrust suit against the search giant. It claimed Google’s actions have done and will continue to do “real harm to consumers and to innovation in the online search and advertising markets.”

And yet, the agency’s commissioners ultimately decided against and closed the investigation. Why? Could it be that Google was the second-largest donor to President Obama’s reelection campaign or that the company’s executives spend so much time at the White House that the administration is thinking of redoing the Green Room in Google’s multicolor scheme?

Don’t be silly. There’s no cronyism in Washington.

Finally, European regulators last week filed an antitrust action claiming Google skews search results in favor of its own shopping network, a practice that Yelp and others have long complained about. The European Commission also added a new investigation to its ongoing efforts, this one over Google’s Android operating system.

Don’t tell me we’re going to need Europe to save us from the evil empire. How ironic can you get?



http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2015/04/20/why-google-is-new-evil-empire/


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I see this as a motivation to have the brains among us develop the next open, unstoppable peer to peer/decentralized search engine. Ethereum based?





Skews search in favour of its own shopping networks?
Yes why not.
This is why net neutrality is so important.

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June 21, 2015, 09:09:08 AM
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as we know that Google knows what youre looking for, even what your house looks like, what youve looked up in the past, what kind of porn youre into, who you want to stalk, and depending on whether or not you have a thriving Google+ account, who you are, what you look like and who your friends are i think google is a virtual god,i cant even using yahoo for search something Sad
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June 23, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
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You can protect yourself.
I've tuned my browser to block all cookies from google.com and I use startpage.com for my searches.
that is a good way to protect your computer but i think this whole thing is blown out of proportion if you are that unsure of your computers safety why go full rogue and use the tor browser but i have had people say even that may not be safe

I firmly disagree, their are browsers out there who will not share your data at any cost and search engines like duckduckgo who will never record your data, that's their SP. people who rant about their private information exploitation should use such softwares and apps, than just blame google and the other lads. Its business, boys.
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June 24, 2015, 09:37:11 AM
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as we know that Google knows what youre looking for, even what your house looks like, what youve looked up in the past, what kind of porn youre into, who you want to stalk, and depending on whether or not you have a thriving Google+ account, who you are, what you look like and who your friends are i think google is a virtual god,i cant even using yahoo for search something Sad
Rightly said, Google watch everything even inside the house, I guess they can able to peek into swimming pools and bathrooms every easily. What is your idea about DuckDuckGo ? I used it and found it awesome in terms of privacy, however still need much improvement regards to the search engines.
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June 24, 2015, 09:49:08 AM
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So... Will Google became Skynet Huh
they had so many private information of people
and maybe someday a military corportaion bought Google secretly
and then there's doom day Grin
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June 24, 2015, 09:51:12 AM
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Google is a good searching machine but it shouldn't track us.but who cares, We are doomed to live in a Big Brother Surveillance society

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June 26, 2015, 08:37:10 AM
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You can protect yourself.
I've tuned my browser to block all cookies from google.com and I use startpage.com for my searches.
Google is quite transparent in what it does—but that there is a dissonance between our interpretation of evil as 'wickedness" Smiley
(Read macdailynews) Grin
Google doesn’t care about the users. It cares about your data,and act accordingly. Smiley Grin

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June 26, 2015, 12:29:56 PM
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The main thing that has made a company become bigger is its customers. In past, you always used google to search everything what you want, in everytime and everywhere. And now we start to blame google because it saved our data there. It has been happened too to other big company e.g McD, CocaCola, Microsoft, and MasterCard. If you using a product from other company, so in other word you want to make this company get bigger and at the end it can rule you too.

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June 26, 2015, 02:24:17 PM
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I find it decidedly curious how no one ever seem to draw parallels between evil this evil that trying to control everyone and mankind assuming control of the entire planet. Humans control the earth by right of power right? Now that there is no common enemy to defeat and no land left to conquer, they've started conquering themselves. It's hilarious how most people act shocked and outraged when getting a taste of their own medicine  Cheesy

On a different note, people interested in a peer to peer web have a look here - http://project-maelstrom.bittorrent.com/
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June 26, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
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On a different note, people interested in a peer to peer web have a look here - http://project-maelstrom.bittorrent.com/

not open source unfortunately.

storj and maidsafe will go into a similar direction

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June 26, 2015, 02:37:43 PM
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Been this way for a long time -- skynet

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June 26, 2015, 09:14:30 PM
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You can protect yourself.
I've tuned my browser to block all cookies from google.com and I use startpage.com for my searches.
Google is quite transparent in what it does—but that there is a dissonance between our interpretation of evil as 'wickedness" Smiley
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Google doesn’t care about the users. It cares about your data,and act accordingly. Smiley Grin


Google CEO Eric Schmidt Advises You Change Your Name To Escape Online Shame


In a recent interview with the Wall Street Journal, Google CEO Eric Schmidt discussed the future of search, how newspapers will survive, and what's next for Google.

As ReadWriteWeb highlighted, Schmidt also shared some surprisingly frank, eyebrow-raising opinions on privacy online and the lengths to which we will have to go to protect our reputations in what the New York Times called an age defined by "the impossibility of erasing your posted past and moving on."

The Wall Street Journal's Holman Jenkins writes in his interview with Eric Schmidt that the CEO "predicts, apparently seriously, that every young person one day will be entitled automatically to change his or her name on reaching adulthood in order to disown youthful hijinks stored on their friends' social media sites."

"I don't believe society understands what happens when everything is available, knowable and recorded by everyone all the time," Schmidt said.

Will we really use this "restart button?" Many have questioned Schmidt's stance. "This notion isn't just scary--it seems downright pointless," wrote TechCrunch of the proposition. Researcher Danah Boyd calls the idea "ludicrous," adding it "completely contradicts historical legal trajectories," "fails to account for the tensions between positive and negative reputation," and "would be so exceedingly ineffective as to be just outright absurd."

Schmidt also discussed what Google knows about its users, and how it intends to use that information.

"I actually think most people don't want Google to answer their questions," he explained. "They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next."

Google, said Schmidt, "[knows] roughly who you are, roughly what you care about, roughly who your friends are," as well as your location, within a foot. Jenkins offers an example of how this could be applied, explaining, "If you need milk and there's a place nearby to get milk, Google will remind you to get milk. It will tell you a store ahead has a collection of horse-racing posters, that a 19th-century murder you've been reading about took place on the next block."

Earlier this month, Schmidt offered additional insight into his views on privacy at the Techonomy conference. As we reported here, he argued that anonymity on the Internet is dangerous and suggested the days of anonymity online are numbered. Read more.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/16/google-ceo-eric-schmidt-s_n_684031.html



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Maybe we do not understand or exaggerate by calling google "evil" today. The thing is... We may be too close to the light of the star and make us blind to what kind of changes that 'star' will have for us, generations in the future in exchange of a couple of free apps on very expensive through away smart phones now.
 


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August 10, 2015, 11:41:00 PM
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Alphabet inc. as in... The Alpha and the Omega? Smiley




Google Inc. is reorganizing into a holding company that gives its main Web operations greater independence while offering investors more visibility into ambitious plans to expand new businesses, including health and Internet access.

Alphabet Inc. will be name of the new conglomerate. Google Inc., along with YouTube, Android mobile software and other Web-based products, will be a key part of that. Alphabet will also include Calico, Google Ventures, Google Capital, Google X and other subsidiaries, the Web company said in a blog post Monday. The goal isn’t to make Alphabet a consumer brand, Page said.

The new structure will give greater clarity into how Google invests in various ventures, including driverless cars, high-speed Internet service and health-related technologies. It also makes it easier to make any future acquisitions or potential divestments. Wall Street cheered the news, pushing the shares up 5.9 percent in extended trading.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-10/google-to-adopt-new-holding-structure-under-name-alphabet-




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August 10, 2015, 11:54:26 PM
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They are not umbrella, they are Genesis, from the new terminator.

But in real life will be people that will overrun the rest of mankind, but they will look like machines for common people
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August 15, 2015, 04:53:03 AM
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We need to create an anonymous internet... (Tor and I2P are not)

I use bitcoin because I want to earn anonymously online. It's also a good investment and I like low transaction fees of bitcoin

I love you because I am formerly AnonyMint and since 2013 my goal has been to add more anonymity to cryptoland. Thanks for validating my thesis about a coming glorious, anonymous Knowledge Age.

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August 16, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
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You can protect yourself.
I've tuned my browser to block all cookies from google.com and I use startpage.com for my searches.
that is a good way to protect your computer but i think this whole thing is blown out of proportion if you are that unsure of your computers safety why go full rogue and use the tor browser but i have had people say even that may not be safe

I firmly disagree, their are browsers out there who will not share your data at any cost and search engines like duckduckgo who will never record your data, that's their SP. people who rant about their private information exploitation should use such softwares and apps, than just blame google and the other lads. Its business, boys.

So if I am using Google Chrome and I use duckduckgo as a search engine, will Google still be able to track my searches?

I'm usually signed into Chrome, with Gmail and Youtube signed in as well, and assume everything I do is being tracked.
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August 17, 2015, 01:08:33 AM
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as we know that Google knows what youre looking for, even what your house looks like, what youve looked up in the past, what kind of porn youre into, who you want to stalk, and depending on whether or not you have a thriving Google+ account, who you are, what you look like and who your friends are i think google is a virtual god,i cant even using yahoo for search something Sad

No, they do not know these things.  Not unless you have let the Evil Goog into your home.

Wait.  I'm not totally sure that's true.

Let me ask Google.
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Google is a company made up of people who are smart, google can do anything at this time. do anything and can get what they want Grin
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Google is a company made up of people who are smart, google can do anything at this time. do anything and can get what they want Grin

One interesting thing is that Google isn't a good search  engine.  It's results are virtually stuffed with links that lead to malware, and it appears this is due to such companies buying position in the search queues. 

A lot of the search results are completely fake, because of the way that Google sends the terms of your query out to various companies who then respond with whether they have the product or service.  This is because, say if a company has it's goods in an online catalogue that produces pages when a query is done, Google cannot search those pages internal to that company's database.

Other companies, though will simply take the search phrase and claim they have it.

Google could strip these bad links out, but they won't.  Given these severe deficiencies, one would think the era of Google search engine domination would be coming to an end.  But is it?

EDITED:  On doing a Google search on this topic I find the following (note bolded)-

http://www.google.com/policies/faq/

Are my search queries sent to websites when I click on Google Search results?

In some cases, yes. When you click on a search result in Google Search, your web browser also may send the Internet address, or URL, of the search results page to the destination webpage as the HTTP Referrer. The URL of the search results page may sometimes contain the search query you entered. If you are using SSL Search (Google’s encrypted search functionality), under most circumstances, your search terms will not be sent as part of the URL in the HTTP Referrer. There are some exceptions to this behavior, such as if you are using some less popular browsers. More information on SSL Search can be found here. Search queries or information contained in the HTTP Referrer may be available via Google Analytics or an application programming interface (API). In addition, advertisers may receive information relating to the exact keywords that triggered an ad click.
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