Is there an influence of the Mt. Gox payout on the markets?

[SebastianJu]

If I can get my bitcoin paid back at $483, then I will take the cash please!
Why would anyone want a $235 bitcoin refund when they can get $483 per bitcoin refund?

I'll take the cash and buy twice the amount of Bitcoin, that'll do me nicely!

Thats not how it works. I asked the same question and got this answer.

The chances to get something back are very good, provided that 1) you establish your claim and 2) your claim amount isn't really small (for claims below JPY1,000, the trustee has said that you will still get the payout, but you might have to come pick up your money - not practical for most people).

We don't know the percentage and it will depend on undetermined factors, such as how many people decide to make their claim. Some have speculated that it might be around 20% based on some public information, but it isn't certain.

All currencies including BTC will be considered in terms of their value in JPY when MtGox went bankrupt. These values will be used to determine your pro rata share of the total remaining assets. If you request a payout in BTC, the amount of BTC you receive would be your pro rata share of JPY converted to BTC at the current market rates.

I quoted all the answer since the other info is noteworthy too. But they all calculate in JPY, if you chose bitcoins then you will get the amount of bitcoins you could buy at the current market price for the amount of JPY.

[minerpumpkin]

If I can get my bitcoin paid back at $483, then I will take the cash please!
Why would anyone want a $235 bitcoin refund when they can get $483 per bitcoin refund?

I'll take the cash and buy twice the amount of Bitcoin, that'll do me nicely!

Thats not how it works. I asked the same question and got this answer.

The chances to get something back are very good, provided that 1) you establish your claim and 2) your claim amount isn't really small (for claims below JPY1,000, the trustee has said that you will still get the payout, but you might have to come pick up your money - not practical for most people).

We don't know the percentage and it will depend on undetermined factors, such as how many people decide to make their claim. Some have speculated that it might be around 20% based on some public information, but it isn't certain.

All currencies including BTC will be considered in terms of their value in JPY when MtGox went bankrupt. These values will be used to determine your pro rata share of the total remaining assets. If you request a payout in BTC, the amount of BTC you receive would be your pro rata share of JPY converted to BTC at the current market rates.

I quoted all the answer since the other info is noteworthy too. But they all calculate in JPY, if you chose bitcoins then you will get the amount of bitcoins you could buy at the current market price for the amount of JPY.

So basically for people only having FIAT money in Gox, the best thing would be if they actually used today's BTC prices. That way the amount all the holders of BTC get gets smaller compared to the prices at Gox's downfall. But I do understand that the way they're doing it makes most sense and is the one complying with the regulations.

[derpinheimer]

Where is all the usd coming from that they intend to refund? Almost all assets are btc?

[inca]

Where is all the usd coming from that they intend to refund? Almost all assets are btc?

Why would there be a preference for USD over BTC?

[minerpumpkin]

Where is all the usd coming from that they intend to refund? Almost all assets are btc?

Well the assets themselves comprise all the assets gox still has (or had, at the time when the bankruptcy occurred). I also believe that most of those assets will be BTC that we're kept in some wallets gox's system forgot about. Good thing their system was working that bad so now we still have some assets to distribute

[SebastianJu]

If I can get my bitcoin paid back at $483, then I will take the cash please!
Why would anyone want a $235 bitcoin refund when they can get $483 per bitcoin refund?

I'll take the cash and buy twice the amount of Bitcoin, that'll do me nicely!

Thats not how it works. I asked the same question and got this answer.

The chances to get something back are very good, provided that 1) you establish your claim and 2) your claim amount isn't really small (for claims below JPY1,000, the trustee has said that you will still get the payout, but you might have to come pick up your money - not practical for most people).

We don't know the percentage and it will depend on undetermined factors, such as how many people decide to make their claim. Some have speculated that it might be around 20% based on some public information, but it isn't certain.

All currencies including BTC will be considered in terms of their value in JPY when MtGox went bankrupt. These values will be used to determine your pro rata share of the total remaining assets. If you request a payout in BTC, the amount of BTC you receive would be your pro rata share of JPY converted to BTC at the current market rates.

I quoted all the answer since the other info is noteworthy too. But they all calculate in JPY, if you chose bitcoins then you will get the amount of bitcoins you could buy at the current market price for the amount of JPY.

So basically for people only having FIAT money in Gox, the best thing would be if they actually used today's BTC prices. That way the amount all the holders of BTC get gets smaller compared to the prices at Gox's downfall. But I do understand that the way they're doing it makes most sense and is the one complying with the regulations.

I understand it another way. All btc will be calculated to fiat for the price of bitcoin when mtgox went down. Then, if you want get btc out, your fiat will be paid out in btc for the price of btc at the time it gets paid out. So no losing, in fact winning in amount of btc when you have btc in it because the bitcoin price is lower now than when mtgox went down.

Am i wrong?

[8up]

No. See OP. This is why I am hoping for even lower prices.

[mrhelpful]

Well regardless of this insight this is out of our control.

Just focus on whats in your control, and see what you can do for price spikes. Whales supressing price and all the rich stuff, cant do much about unless you are one of them and decide to say its morally wrong which I doubt most whales would say.

[ensurance982]

Well regardless of this insight this is out of our control.

Just focus on whats in your control, and see what you can do for price spikes. Whales supressing price and all the rich stuff, cant do much about unless you are one of them and decide to say its morally wrong which I doubt most whales would say.

I agree that this is mostly out of our control, especially for people who aren't/weren't heavily invested in Gox. On the other hand, it could actually matter when filing your claims. I believe you can (at least) specify what your preferred method of receiving your claims is. In this case it can make quite a difference of how much you receive, especially concerning the way coins are being distributed.