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Question: Should Satoshi's coins be deleted?
yes - 20 (15.7%)
no - 107 (84.3%)
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May 14, 2015, 01:43:38 PM
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Erm, how can Satoshis coins be deleted?
If that was possible then the Gox stolen coins should be deleted too.

There shouldn't be any coin deletion, instead they should be sent to the address in my profile  Tongue

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May 14, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
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You are asking whether the community should take away money from someone, because "we" don't like the fact that he/she has more money than us. If this would be the norm, there would be only the developer team using Bitcoin.
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May 14, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
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Erm, how can Satoshis coins be deleted?
If that was possible then the Gox stolen coins should be deleted too.

There shouldn't be any coin deletion, instead they should be sent to the address in my profile  Tongue
Deleting coins doesn't make sense. Thinking like this would only mean that OP has no clue how the blockchain work.
To effectively delete them, it would mean the history since the deletion of the coins would be lost, in other world complete nonsense.
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May 14, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
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Instead of "deleting" them, you could transfer them to a burn address if 51% of the mining power would accept a normally invalid transaction.

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May 14, 2015, 08:40:31 PM
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I honestly think Satoshi considers doing all sorts of things with his coins, but doing nothing with them is the best option he can come up with. I bet he often considers distributing most of his coins amongst the community, but after 3 seconds looking at the main page here at bitcointalk, he thinks to himself "Why would I give my coins to these retards?" honestly, he sits there looking at his baby, watching it roll around in its own filth, and thinks "....nope..."

now, those coins can not be deleted by an external force, only the holder of the private keys can do that. If you or I or the bitcoin foundation, or Gavin, or anybody other than satoshi had the power to delete someone else's coins, bitcoin would be finished instantly and could never be saved.
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May 14, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
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Lol, Bitcoin fungibility = Fail, thats why i trust Monero more

With Bitcoin you can always mix your coins, with Monero you cant know if a double spending bug happens due to the non transparent ledger.
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May 14, 2015, 10:24:56 PM
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I voted NO they should not be deleted and to be honest just asking whether they should makes me think you shouldn't be in bitcoin, who in their right mind would even consider deleting the creators coins if they could!? It is crazy talk along the lines of should the blockchain get deleted and everything else that has followed from his hard work.

Saying that I did see some fud the other week or maybe it was truth but basically fud because they won't achieve some chinese guys trying to steal his private keys. It looks like satoshi has no plans on spending the bitcoin or he would have within this time so I really don't see what the deal is it is not like he could not have dumped at the peak, he is anonymous enough afterall.

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May 14, 2015, 10:27:38 PM
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If there was a way to get rid of satoshi's coins. Should they be deleted?






Deleting satoshi's coins would basically spell the end for bitcoin..

No organization nor person should ever be given that much power over the blockchain and the day that it happens BTC will become useless.
Let satoshi have his coins, He deserves them. Although I think if he ever does move the coins the panic it would cause will likely end BTC.
The fact that you even asked this question bothers me.. If you made something would you like it taken away even though its rightfully yours?


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May 14, 2015, 10:30:24 PM
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I think yes, a 21% instamine is ridiculous. It gives a bad name to BTC.

I would want to give them to Mark Zuckerberg and have him distribute them on facebook.




Go use another coin if you don't like the instamine.
And facebook, are you fucking serious?
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May 14, 2015, 10:38:59 PM
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No way should Satoshi's coins be deleted.  For one thing, how on earth would you get consensus with everyone for such a nonsense idea?  They have to work really hard to get consensus for reasonable things like block size increase, etc.  Then, think about it further, if Satoshi's coins can be "deleted" then so can yours.  How would that be a good thing?  Don't be a hater.  Just cos Satoshi thought of it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be treated with the same respect as any other bitcoin user.  Smiley
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May 15, 2015, 12:16:05 AM
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You can't do things like that due to precedence, then other people would request other bitcoins to be deleted.
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May 15, 2015, 07:10:19 AM
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Satoshi himself could have lost / destroyed all records of the private key, making those coins unspendable.
Nobody else has any right to decide what to do with those coins.


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May 15, 2015, 07:24:06 AM
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Lol, Bitcoin fungibility = Fail, thats why i trust Monero more

With Bitcoin you can always mix your coins, with Monero you cant know if a double spending bug happens due to the non transparent ledger.

What?....
Monero doesn't work like Bitcoin?
I mean, they do not have a distributed ledger that everyone can verify?

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May 15, 2015, 07:29:31 AM
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well your question is a little bit off-topic since coins on bitcoin can't be deleted
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May 15, 2015, 07:47:53 AM
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No.
Even if it was possible who the hell would have the right to do that to the genius behind the world of bitcoin.
Satoshi deserves those coins and if he ever does decide to sell (if he still has access to those coins) I think he'd bleed them onto the market slowly/gradually.
He'd never dump them all at once, it'd destroy his invention, something he worked so hard to achieve.
If he still has the private keys then I trust him with the power.

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May 15, 2015, 07:51:02 AM
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well your question is a little bit off-topic since coins on bitcoin can't be deleted

Technically speaking, yes, they can.
All it takes is knowing exactly which addresses belong to Satoshi and then tamper with the blockchain.
Of course the majority would have to agree on the new chain.

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May 15, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
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I honestly think Satoshi considers doing all sorts of things with his coins, but doing nothing with them is the best option he can come up with. I bet he often considers distributing most of his coins amongst the community, but after 3 seconds looking at the main page here at bitcointalk, he thinks to himself "Why would I give my coins to these retards?" honestly, he sits there looking at his baby, watching it roll around in its own filth, and thinks "....nope..."

now, those coins can not be deleted by an external force, only the holder of the private keys can do that. If you or I or the bitcoin foundation, or Gavin, or anybody other than satoshi had the power to delete someone else's coins, bitcoin would be finished instantly and could never be saved.

I think he might wait until its a world dominating currency. Then he will take over the world.  Cheesy

No, really. I think he has an enourmous power. Bitcoin might really become a big part of the world wide financial system. He could do very much things with it. Depending on his character. He could create a form of organization to get every result he want with it. The possibilities are endless.

I hope he is a nice guy. His coins could destroy so much but they could change much to the better too.

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May 15, 2015, 10:19:00 AM
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Instead of showing the world all the gold, US gov. will show the world 1 million bitcoins by signing a message.
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May 15, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
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If there was a way to get rid of satoshi's coins. Should they be deleted?

I think the best way to get rid of those coins is to just donate them. not at once but little by little. there are many charity organization accepting bitcoin like red cross or something

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May 15, 2015, 03:11:05 PM
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well your question is a little bit off-topic since coins on bitcoin can't be deleted

Technically speaking, yes, they can.
All it takes is knowing exactly which addresses belong to Satoshi and then tamper with the blockchain.
Of course the majority would have to agree on the new chain.

And because the majority would never agree with the new chain, you may as well acknowledge that they cannot Smiley

Another way that they could be deleted would be for someone to alter Satoshi's brain and/or his records such that he cannot find his private keys.  That would also effectively delete them, but again, why are we considering these outlandish scenarios?  Lol.
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