BETinBTC.com, Live Casino and sports betting

[RussianRaibow]

Hello RussianRainbow,

you can play in two different Live Dealer Casinos won our site and there are dozens of beautiful dealers like these around the clock!

Simply register your account, deposit some bitcoin and visit the "Live Casino" Tab to chose one of our two live casinos and then a table with a girl that interest you

Good luck at the tables!

Is it mandatory to deposit bitcoin to visit the "Live Casino" ? Will the girls be available on Skype ?

[1714581979]

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[fox19891989]

Hey fox19891989,

yes, there is a house advantage on Casino games and we therefore need to use that math to calculate the rollover.

Our free 10mBTC can be used in any game in our virtual casino including Blackjack or videopoker. The house edge on these games is very low and someone who plays close to perfect strategy will face a house edge of 0.5% or so.

If we had set the rollover on the bonus at 40x, in theory a player playing these games would be able to clear the rollover and still have 8 mBTC of the bonus (this is in theory obviously, most people will have lost all while some will have won much more).

If we have a bonus like this, it can be abused and we know from experience that if a bonus can be abused many people will take advantage of it... especially when there is absolutely no risk and transactions are so easy as with bitcoin.

So, granted, the rollover we set is very safe for us but as I said the bonus is intended to try the game and give all players a chance to hit it big and even with this rollover I think that these goals are achieved.

Obviously as the player it would be better to have a very low rollover so I understand your feedback but I hope you understand our position

Are you really experienced? I doubt that.

Firstly, "Our free 10mBTC can be used in any game in our virtual casino including Blackjack or videopoker." So do other casinos, your casino is not special.

Secondly, "If we had set the rollover on the bonus at 40x, in theory a player playing these games would be able to clear the rollover and still have 8 mBTC of the bonus (this is in theory obviously, most people will have lost all while some will have won much more)."    Really? If you have experience on running a casino, you don't know 40X is still very difficult to withdraw? Satoshibet had 100mbtc daily bonus with 40X rollover for 2 months. Every time, no guy or only 1-2 guys can complete 40X rollover.

In general, every casino has 30X-40X rollover, blackjack contributes 10%-20% to rollover. So your bonus is nothing special, and much higher than others, that's why I and some other members said your bonus is not attractive. I remember WilliamHill has 30X rollover bonus, blackjack contributes 20% of rollover, but they are not bankrupt, they earn 1 billion GBP pure profit per year.

But good luck, that's see what will happen in the future. You may think about my feedback if no traffic here.

[BETinBTC]

Hello RussianRainbow,

you can play in two different Live Dealer Casinos won our site and there are dozens of beautiful dealers like these around the clock!

Simply register your account, deposit some bitcoin and visit the "Live Casino" Tab to chose one of our two live casinos and then a table with a girl that interest you

Good luck at the tables!

Is it mandatory to deposit bitcoin to visit the "Live Casino" ? Will the girls be available on Skype ?

Hey,

not at all, you can visit the Casinos without having made a deposit but if you want to play you need to first deposit some bitcoin

Regarding their availibility on Skype I am afraid wthis is not a service we offer yet

[BETinBTC]

Hey fox19891989,

yes, there is a house advantage on Casino games and we therefore need to use that math to calculate the rollover.

Our free 10mBTC can be used in any game in our virtual casino including Blackjack or videopoker. The house edge on these games is very low and someone who plays close to perfect strategy will face a house edge of 0.5% or so.

If we had set the rollover on the bonus at 40x, in theory a player playing these games would be able to clear the rollover and still have 8 mBTC of the bonus (this is in theory obviously, most people will have lost all while some will have won much more).

If we have a bonus like this, it can be abused and we know from experience that if a bonus can be abused many people will take advantage of it... especially when there is absolutely no risk and transactions are so easy as with bitcoin.

So, granted, the rollover we set is very safe for us but as I said the bonus is intended to try the game and give all players a chance to hit it big and even with this rollover I think that these goals are achieved.

Obviously as the player it would be better to have a very low rollover so I understand your feedback but I hope you understand our position

Are you really experienced? I doubt that.

Firstly, "Our free 10mBTC can be used in any game in our virtual casino including Blackjack or videopoker." So do other casinos, your casino is not special.

Secondly, "If we had set the rollover on the bonus at 40x, in theory a player playing these games would be able to clear the rollover and still have 8 mBTC of the bonus (this is in theory obviously, most people will have lost all while some will have won much more)."    Really? If you have experience on running a casino, you don't know 40X is still very difficult to withdraw? Satoshibet had 100mbtc daily bonus with 40X rollover for 2 months. Every time, no guy or only 1-2 guys can complete 40X rollover.

In general, every casino has 30X-40X rollover, blackjack contributes 10%-20% to rollover. So your bonus is nothing special, and much higher than others, that's why I and some other members said your bonus is not attractive. I remember WilliamHill has 30X rollover bonus, blackjack contributes 20% of rollover, but they are not bankrupt, they earn 1 billion GBP pure profit per year.

But good luck, that's see what will happen in the future. You may think about my feedback if no traffic here.

Hey,

sorry if my comment was not clear. Of course most casinos also offer Blackjack and other games and one can use a bonus to play them.

What I tried to explain is that, with the house edge on these games, mathematically we cannot offer a lower rollover without the bonus having a positive expected value for the players and such a bonus can and will be abused which would put our business at risk.

The bonuses from William Hill that you are referring to generally are tied to players making a deposit to get the bonus which changes the math and in the case of a bonus with 30x rollover and Blackjack bets counting for only 20%, the actual rollover on the bonus is 30 time 5 for that game so 150x rollover.

In any case I invite you of taking advantage of the offer, there is absolutely no risk (no deposit needed) and who knows maybe you will be lucky and hit a big payout on a slot and be able to cashout after meeting the rollover

[BETinBTC]

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[panjul07]

Just want to give review after try your site :

- loading in slots game take so long time (I'm not really sure why, but I don't think that it was because of my connection) but after it is loaded, it ran smooth as well
- video poker take longer time, even I did not play it yet because always stuck on loading after more than 10minutes.

Unfortunately I always have bad luck in slots..for more than 20x spins only won 2x..lol..

[arallmuus]

- loading in slots game take so long time (I'm not really sure why, but I don't think that it was because of my connection) but after it is loaded, it ran smooth as well
- video poker take longer time, even I did not play it yet because always stuck on loading after more than 10minutes.

First time loading, it is normal, the next time you load for the site it wont take much longer than the current one I suppose

PS : a site that offer the no deposit code only meant that as a promotional tools for user to try the site at no risk at all. If you could pass the wagered needed then it is yours, if you cant, then there is nothing to lose 

Absolutely agree with this, in my own words would be like this "promotion is given not to make players rich, but to introduce the site and let the players try the game without risk" 

You can get lucky, no one knows , there is no rush in completing the rollover I suppose so you can have fun with it since it is not "risky"

You can fix some amount for giveaway of 10mbtc no deposit bonus. This can be limited time or people offer i.e.let's say you put a budget of 1btc for no  deposit bonus for first 100 players or so. This will help you to control your budget and promote same time.

There is no point on doing this, basically that the creditted mbtc is a virtual currency on the site and it will only become real BTC once you have withdrawed it, otherwise it is pointless to limit such virtual thing. So making higher rollover is a good option



TO OP : is wagering the bonus on the sportsbook will be counted for the rollover requirement?

[BETinBTC]

TO OP : is wagering the bonus on the sportsbook will be counted for the rollover requirement?

Hey,

the bonus can only be used and rolled over in the casino section so the free 10 mBTC cannot be used to wager on sports (nor rolled over there).

We will have promos and contests on sports in the near future, more news on this forum and our social media pages soon

[panjul07]

- loading in slots game take so long time (I'm not really sure why, but I don't think that it was because of my connection) but after it is loaded, it ran smooth as well
- video poker take longer time, even I did not play it yet because always stuck on loading after more than 10minutes.

First time loading, it is normal, the next time you load for the site it wont take much longer than the current one I suppose

I got it not only in the first time loading.
Details :
- First open slots (5-7minutes) and played 3-4spins then I decided to try videopoker
- Loading the video poker but after 10minutes still stuck..closed it
- Open slot again still need to wait 5-7minutes.

if there is no other player get the same problem with me, so it must be a problem in my side. But I believe it was not because my connection.

[BETinBTC]

- loading in slots game take so long time (I'm not really sure why, but I don't think that it was because of my connection) but after it is loaded, it ran smooth as well
- video poker take longer time, even I did not play it yet because always stuck on loading after more than 10minutes.

First time loading, it is normal, the next time you load for the site it wont take much longer than the current one I suppose

I got it not only in the first time loading.
Details :
- First open slots (5-7minutes) and played 3-4spins then I decided to try videopoker
- Loading the video poker but after 10minutes still stuck..closed it
- Open slot again still need to wait 5-7minutes.

if there is no other player get the same problem with me, so it must be a problem in my side. But I believe it was not because my connection.

Hey,

sorry about the trouble... Do you know the name of the games you tried? I will check with our Dev team

thanks for your help

[arallmuus]

TO OP : is wagering the bonus on the sportsbook will be counted for the rollover requirement?

Hey,

the bonus can only be used and rolled over in the casino section so the free 10 mBTC cannot be used to wager on sports (nor rolled over there).

We will have promos and contests on sports in the near future, more news on this forum and our social media pages soon

I see, found it at your sites about this, the font is quite small and I have missed it. It seems like the running text on the sites is broken? I am online currently yet it is written that there is 0 person online

EDIT : where can I check the amount that I have wagered?

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First time loading, it is normal, the next time you load for the site it wont take much longer than the current one I suppose

I got it not only in the first time loading.
if there is no other player get the same problem with me, so it must be a problem in my side. But I believe it was not because my connection.

I see, I thought it was first time loading since I've got no issue with this for the second time opening the game, but my connection is on its best currently , so it could be from your end or there is an error with the game

[panjul07]

- loading in slots game take so long time (I'm not really sure why, but I don't think that it was because of my connection) but after it is loaded, it ran smooth as well
- video poker take longer time, even I did not play it yet because always stuck on loading after more than 10minutes.

First time loading, it is normal, the next time you load for the site it wont take much longer than the current one I suppose

I got it not only in the first time loading.
Details :
- First open slots (5-7minutes) and played 3-4spins then I decided to try videopoker
- Loading the video poker but after 10minutes still stuck..closed it
- Open slot again still need to wait 5-7minutes.

if there is no other player get the same problem with me, so it must be a problem in my side. But I believe it was not because my connection.

Hey,

sorry about the trouble... Do you know the name of the games you tried? I will check with our Dev team

thanks for your help

I tried the Dragon King slots, and the videopoker that was stuck in loading is Deuces Wild.

[BETinBTC]

I tried the Dragon King slots, and the videopoker that was stuck in loading is Deuces Wild.

thanks for the info, there seems to be no problem with the game that I can see but we'll check the logs.

Please try to log out and log back in and try again, maybe there was a problem with the connection. We'll review the logs though

[vendetahome]

I tried the Dragon King slots, and the videopoker that was stuck in loading is Deuces Wild.

thanks for the info, there seems to be no problem with the game that I can see but we'll check the logs.

Please try to log out and log back in and try again, maybe there was a problem with the connection. We'll review the logs though

its working for me fine on chrome maybe he just had to try it with another browser

[Mewtwo]

I really have not seen any gambling site that requires players to wager 200 times only with 10mBTC free. Ideally, you should not give free money. It

just makes us feel funny. It gives the player the feeling that will never win a penny from your own site . Only 10mBTC but you also do not want to lose,

how will you be able to tell someone that they can win the bet 10BTC ? I am sure that in every way you would not want anyone to withdraw a penny

from your site even fraud.

I really feel funny for so-called "promotion"......

[BETinBTC]

I tried the Dragon King slots, and the videopoker that was stuck in loading is Deuces Wild.

thanks for the info, there seems to be no problem with the game that I can see but we'll check the logs.

Please try to log out and log back in and try again, maybe there was a problem with the connection. We'll review the logs though

its working for me fine on chrome maybe he just had to try it with another browser

Yes, that can be browser related. Depending on the browser the game loads either in Flash or in HTML5.

Panjul07, do you still experience the problem and if so can you tell me what browser you use?

thanks!

[BETinBTC]

I really have not seen any gambling site that requires players to wager 200 times only with 10mBTC free. Ideally, you should not give free money. It

just makes us feel funny. It gives the player the feeling that will never win a penny from your own site . Only 10mBTC but you also do not want to lose,

how will you be able to tell someone that they can win the bet 10BTC ? I am sure that in every way you would not want anyone to withdraw a penny

from your site even fraud.

I really feel funny for so-called "promotion"......

Hi Mewtwo,

thanks for the feedback.

Using the bonus is of course completely optional and it is intended for players to try the games and maybe win a nice prize in our casino without risking any of their own bitcoin.

Some players will hopefully get lucky and win some free money with the bonus though and those who don't will hopefully have enjoyed the games!

Obviously there is no rollover at all if player uses his own money to play and all winnings and deposits can be withdrawn freely in that case. If the player uses our free bonus he needs to complete rollover before he can withdraw the bonus or winnings that came from the bonus.

[GrandmaJean]

I really have not seen any gambling site that requires players to wager 200 times only with 10mBTC free. Ideally, you should not give free money. It

just makes us feel funny. It gives the player the feeling that will never win a penny from your own site . Only 10mBTC but you also do not want to lose,

how will you be able to tell someone that they can win the bet 10BTC ? I am sure that in every way you would not want anyone to withdraw a penny

from your site even fraud.

I really feel funny for so-called "promotion"......

Hi Mewtwo,

thanks for the feedback.

Using the bonus is of course completely optional and it is intended for players to try the games and maybe win a nice prize in our casino without risking any of their own bitcoin.

Some players will hopefully get lucky and win some free money with the bonus though and those who don't will hopefully have enjoyed the games!

Obviously there is no rollover at all if player uses his own money to play and all winnings and deposits can be withdrawn freely in that case. If the player uses our free bonus he needs to complete rollover before he can withdraw the bonus or winnings that came from the bonus.

most casinos do 35x rollover on even bigger bonuses you do realize that 200x its way too much yes?

[BETinBTC]

most casinos do 35x rollover on even bigger bonuses you do realize that 200x its way too much yes?

Hello GrandmaJean,

on completely free bonuses the rollover needs to be higher because of the math of the games but if a deposit is involved we would of course lower the rollover.

the 10 mBTC bonus on www.betinbtc.com is completely risk-free for the player and does not require a deposit so players can use it to try the games and maybe hit a big payday with our slots or videopoker games

[panjul07]

I tried the Dragon King slots, and the videopoker that was stuck in loading is Deuces Wild.

thanks for the info, there seems to be no problem with the game that I can see but we'll check the logs.

Please try to log out and log back in and try again, maybe there was a problem with the connection. We'll review the logs though

its working for me fine on chrome maybe he just had to try it with another browser

Yes, that can be browser related. Depending on the browser the game loads either in Flash or in HTML5.

Panjul07, do you still experience the problem and if so can you tell me what browser you use?

thanks!

Problem fixed, after I clearing all my browser history and cache plus update my flashplayer.

most casinos do 35x rollover on even bigger bonuses you do realize that 200x its way too much yes?

Hello GrandmaJean,

on completely free bonuses the rollover needs to be higher because of the math of the games but if a deposit is involved we would of course lower the rollover.

the 10 mBTC bonus on www.betinbtc.com is completely risk-free for the player and does not require a deposit so players can use it to try the games and maybe hit a big payday with our slots or videopoker games

Yes you're right, its completely risk-free like no deposit bonus by other casinos. The difference is just the amount of the rollover requirements. As what I said before, other casinos only give 25-40x rollover requirement on their no deposit bonus. But of course, you're the owner so you have the right to decide the requirement.