Latvia is to create ghettos/concentration camps for its "non-citisens"

[Nemo1024]

Latvia has about 267000 of people, who are deprived one of their human rights, by being denied a citizenship, when though there were born, grew up and are working and living in Latvia. These people are mainly Russian-speaking, and are collectively referred to as "non-citizens" - or "negrazhdane", which is colloquially shortened to "negry" - niggers.

Now Latvian authorities want to use the Nazi Germany's model and put these people into ghettoes (or concentration camps), that would be guarded by armed guards.

A collection of signatures for this move, which reflects one of the higher European values, have already been started.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/291595

[bryant.coleman]

I hope that this movement will remain as a fringe group, without gathering much support. Latvia is home to some 750,000 people (37% of its population), which speaks Russian as a mother tongue. More than one-third of them remains as non-citizens. If you try to detain this one-third, then the remaining two-third will also get involved in counter-measures.

[Lethn]

Me too, but unfortunately people like this are a convenient scapegoat for politics, here in the UK we have a lot of rants about immigration going on, when really it is due to their horrific mismanagement and ignorance of how the economy works that they're in this position in the first place. What's unsettling though is how despite this stupidity the political parties take advantage of peoples' general ignorance and what's even more unsettling is how there are people in these countries that are more than eager to go after immigrants despite it being obvious that's not what the problem is.

[saddampbuh]

Me too, but unfortunately people like this are a convenient scapegoat for politics, here in the UK we have a lot of rants about immigration going on, when really it is due to their horrific mismanagement and ignorance of how the economy works that they're in this position in the first place. What's unsettling though is how despite this stupidity the political parties take advantage of peoples' general ignorance and what's even more unsettling is how there are people in these countries that are more than eager to go after immigrants despite it being obvious that's not what the problem is.

white british people are now an ethnic minority in their own capital city

nothing to do with immigrants?

[criptix]

Me too, but unfortunately people like this are a convenient scapegoat for politics, here in the UK we have a lot of rants about immigration going on, when really it is due to their horrific mismanagement and ignorance of how the economy works that they're in this position in the first place. What's unsettling though is how despite this stupidity the political parties take advantage of peoples' general ignorance and what's even more unsettling is how there are people in these countries that are more than eager to go after immigrants despite it being obvious that's not what the problem is.

white british people are now an ethnic minority in their own capital city

nothing to do with immigrants?

are you getting payed for posting so much bullshit?
the idea that you are living of welfare from the taxes i pay makes me wanna puke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

[panju1]

Latvia has about 267000 of people, who are deprived one of their human rights, by being denied a citizenship, when though there were born, grew up and are working and living in Latvia. These people are mainly Russian-speaking, and are collectively referred to as "non-citizens" - or "negrazhdane", which is colloquially shortened to "negry" - niggers.

Now Latvian authorities want to use the Nazi Germany's model and put these people into ghettoes (or concentration camps), that would be guarded by armed guards.

A collection of signatures for this move, which reflects one of the higher European values, have already been started.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/291595

Russia stepped in to protect Russian-speakers in Ukraine.
Latvia wouldn't want that to happen.

[Balthazar]

Latvia has about 267000 of people, who are deprived one of their human rights, by being denied a citizenship, when though there were born, grew up and are working and living in Latvia. These people are mainly Russian-speaking, and are collectively referred to as "non-citizens" - or "negrazhdane", which is colloquially shortened to "negry" - niggers.

Now Latvian authorities want to use the Nazi Germany's model and put these people into ghettoes (or concentration camps), that would be guarded by armed guards.

A collection of signatures for this move, which reflects one of the higher European values, have already been started.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/291595

Russia stepped in to protect Russian-speakers in Ukraine.
Latvia wouldn't want that to happen.

Lol, maybe they're saying that... However, there is a difference between what they're saying and what they're doing.

If you're really afraid of something then you won't create a pretext for this to happen. Judging by their actions, there are two options:

1) They're stupid;
2) They actually want that to happen.

Otherwise they wouldn't create such situation by stripping away the civil rights from 1/3 of population. But I don't think they're so stupid. It seems more likely they actually want that to happen.

Why would they want that? Who knows, maybe in order to get some money from the federal budget...

But they shouldn't hope for such ending, this won't happen ever. For Latvian government and for Latvian people it's better to realize the fact that nobody wants them to live in Russia. Yep, nobody here would even want to live in the same country with them. If they'll understand this, then their paranoia will be healed immediately. And they finally would be able to do something useful. Something more useful than constructing a model of psychiatric hospital on the national scale.

[saddampbuh]

are you getting payed for posting so much bullshit?
the idea that you are living of welfare from the taxes i pay makes me wanna puke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246288/Census-2011-UK-immigrant-population-jumps-THREE-MILLION-10-years.html

'British whites' are the minority in London for the first time as census shows number of UK immigrants has jumped by 3million in 10 years
Just 44.9% of Londoners are White British, according to census data
7.5million residents of England and Wales were foreign-born in 2011

[Snail2]

Small countries can be quite a bit paranoid if they have some far bigger and far stronger neighbours. Especially if they have a similar historical background as the Baltic states.

[criptix]

are you getting payed for posting so much bullshit?
the idea that you are living of welfare from the taxes i pay makes me wanna puke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246288/Census-2011-UK-immigrant-population-jumps-THREE-MILLION-10-years.html

'British whites' are the minority in London for the first time as census shows number of UK immigrants has jumped by 3million in 10 years
Just 44.9% of Londoners are White British, according to census data
7.5million residents of England and Wales were foreign-born in 2011

One major reason for the explosion in the foreign-born population is the accession of 12 countries in central and eastern Europe to the EU, giving them the right to live and work in the UK - the population of Poles in England and Wales has grown nine-fold over the decade.

Apart from Poland, the other leading countries of origin for British immigrants were India, Pakistan, Ireland and Germany.

The largest increase in ethnic group over the last decade was seen in the 'White: Other' category where an increase of 1.1million was recorded. This reflects more than half a million Poles who migrated into England and Wales during these years, the ONS said.

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

Besides the fact that london is a world metropole where a lot of international folks work most of the residents are white europeans 70+%

[bryant.coleman]

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

According to 2001 census, there were 1,591,126 Muslims in the United Kingdom. As per the 2011 Census, there are some 2,786,635. A jump of 1,200,000. And you are still saying that only 7% of the migrants are from outside the EU? May be you should f*cking read what he posted.

In 2010, there were 7.0 million foreign-born residents in the UK. Of these, 4.76 million were born outside the EU and 2.24 million were born in another EU Member State.

[criptix]

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

According to 2001 census, there were 1,591,126 Muslims in the United Kingdom. As per the 2011 Census, there are some 2,786,635. A jump of 1,200,000. And you are still saying that only 7% of the migrants are from outside the EU? May be you should f*cking read what he posted.

In 2010, there were 7.0 million foreign-born residents in the UK. Of these, 4.76 million were born outside the EU and 2.24 million were born in another EU Member State.

Country	Population Density Sq Mile	Total population (1000)	Total Foreign-born (1000)	%	Born in other EU state (1000)	%	Born in a non EU state (1000)	%
United Kingdom	662	62,008	7,012	11.3	2,245	3.6	4,767	7.7

in contrast to both you people i fucking read the articles.
thats 7,7% % instead of 7%. you people are nuts. (i could round it up too and just say it's only fucking 8%)

[bryant.coleman]

in contrast to both you people i fucking read the articles.
thats 7,7% % instead of 7%. you people are nuts.

Do you have difficulties in understanding English? The article says that 7.7% of the total population is consisted of non-EU immigrants. Out of the foreign-born population, some 63.4% is born outside the EU (mostly from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh). EU migrants represent just 36.6% of the foreign-born population of the United Kingdom.

[criptix]

in contrast to both you people i fucking read the articles.
thats 7,7% % instead of 7%. you people are nuts.

Do you have difficulties in understanding English? The article says that 7.7% of the total population is consisted of non-EU immigrants. Out of the foreign-born population, some 63.4% is born outside the EU (mostly from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh). EU migrants represent just 36.6% of the foreign-born population of the United Kingdom.

this is your first post:

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

According to 2001 census, there were 1,591,126 Muslims in the United Kingdom. As per the 2011 Census, there are some 2,786,635. A jump of 1,200,000. And you are still saying that only 7% of the migrants are from outside the EU? May be you should f*cking read what he posted.

In 2010, there were 7.0 million foreign-born residents in the UK. Of these, 4.76 million were born outside the EU and 2.24 million were born in another EU Member State.

directed at this post of mine:

are you getting payed for posting so much bullshit?
the idea that you are living of welfare from the taxes i pay makes me wanna puke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246288/Census-2011-UK-immigrant-population-jumps-THREE-MILLION-10-years.html

'British whites' are the minority in London for the first time as census shows number of UK immigrants has jumped by 3million in 10 years
Just 44.9% of Londoners are White British, according to census data
7.5million residents of England and Wales were foreign-born in 2011

One major reason for the explosion in the foreign-born population is the accession of 12 countries in central and eastern Europe to the EU, giving them the right to live and work in the UK - the population of Poles in England and Wales has grown nine-fold over the decade.

Apart from Poland, the other leading countries of origin for British immigrants were India, Pakistan, Ireland and Germany.

The largest increase in ethnic group over the last decade was seen in the 'White: Other' category where an increase of 1.1million was recorded. This reflects more than half a million Poles who migrated into England and Wales during these years, the ONS said.

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

Besides the fact that london is a world metropole where a lot of international folks work most of the residents are white europeans 70+%

my english is good enough to understand that you wanted to refute the fact that non eu-immigrants amount to 7,7% of the total population and now after i provided another source for the numbers you are changing your argumentation.

in contrast to both you people i fucking read the articles.
thats 7,7% % instead of 7%. you people are nuts.

Do you have difficulties in understanding English? The article says that 7.7% of the total population is consisted of non-EU immigrants. Out of the foreign-born population, some 63.4% is born outside the EU (mostly from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh). EU migrants represent just 36.6% of the foreign-born population of the United Kingdom.

[saddampbuh]

There are only 7% non eu immigrants. atleast fucking read what you are linking.

Besides the fact that london is a world metropole where a lot of international folks work most of the residents are white europeans 70+%

i said immigrants not eu or non eu immigrants. the majority of both types are illegitimate and unwanted. it makes very little difference to the average person whether the person picking his pocket is a negro savage from somalia or a roma gypsy from bulgaria.

[Nemo1024]

I think this topic has been thoroughly derailed. It's not about immigrants, and not about UK.

The few relevant posts so far are:

Latvia has about 267000 of people, who are deprived one of their human rights, by being denied a citizenship, when though there were born, grew up and are working and living in Latvia. These people are mainly Russian-speaking, and are collectively referred to as "non-citizens" - or "negrazhdane", which is colloquially shortened to "negry" - niggers.

Now Latvian authorities want to use the Nazi Germany's model and put these people into ghettoes (or concentration camps), that would be guarded by armed guards.

A collection of signatures for this move, which reflects one of the higher European values, have already been started.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/291595

Russia stepped in to protect Russian-speakers in Ukraine.
Latvia wouldn't want that to happen.

Lol, maybe they're saying that... However, there is a difference between what they're saying and what they're doing.

If you're really afraid of something then you won't create a pretext for this to happen. Judging by their actions, there are two options:

1) They're stupid;
2) They actually want that to happen.

Otherwise they wouldn't create such situation by stripping away the civil rights from 1/3 of population. But I don't think they're so stupid. It seems more likely they actually want that to happen.

Why would they want that? Who knows, maybe in order to get some money from the federal budget...

But they shouldn't hope for such ending, this won't happen ever. For Latvian government and for Latvian people it's better to realize the fact that nobody wants them to live in Russia. Yep, nobody here would even want to live in the same country with them. If they'll understand this, then their paranoia will be healed immediately. And they finally would be able to do something useful. Something more useful than constructing a model of psychiatric hospital on the national scale.

Apropos that, I'll dig up one fragment of an article by Mihail Zadornov...

EDIT: Here it is: http://www.aif.ru/society/people/1484807
The relevant fragment of it is:

Why nobody wants to see how Latvia lives? Tourists come here and say, "Oh, how beautiful!" Beautifully colored. Yet  enter their houses, look how cold it's there - people have nothing to warm up with. There is an indicator that is carefully concealed: ⅓ of the Latvian population left the independent Latvia. And most of the escapees - young able-bodied citizens. But, mind you, there's never been said so many good words about Latvia as in the Soviet times. Do not be lazy, count how many schools have been built during the Soviet era in Latvia, Estonia and so on, and a number of schools that were closed since they became "independent". The difference in numbers is colossal.

And

Small countries can be quite a bit paranoid if they have some far bigger and far stronger neighbours. Especially if they have a similar historical background as the Baltic states.

Snail2, Latvia, before 1917 was part of the Russian Empire and quite a prosperous region (for one example, check the early history of aviation in Russia). The same prosperity was there during the Soviet era. The Baltic republics were the most well-off republics, better off than even Moscow, which was a state within a state.

[bryant.coleman]

Snail2, Latvia, before 1917 was part of the Russian Empire and quite a prosperous region (for one example, check the early history of aviation in Russia). The same prosperity was there during the Soviet era. The Baltic republics were the most well-off republics, better off than even Moscow, which was a state within a state.

Until the late 1980s, the per capita income of the Baltics were much higher than that of their neighbors, such as Poland. Now it is just the opposite. When they were a part of the USSR, most of the Latvians were employed in various factories and other decent jobs. Now most of them are cleaning toilets in the United Kingdom and Germany.

[Balthazar]

Now most of them are cleaning democratic toilets in the United Kingdom and Germany.

fixed. 

[Nemo1024]

An unexpected continuation to the Latvian (and Estonian) non-citizen story.

With all the Syrian refugees coming in, Latvia and Estonia were very adamant that they don't want to see any. This prompted German lawmakers to check how these countries treat migrants. It turns out that Latvia and Estonia were marketing non-citizens (people who settled in these countries between 1940 and 1989) as "refugees" and were receiving grants from EU for them. The money ended up with the state.

In that way Latvia €33 million, while Estonia, somewhat less (Latvia has 250000 non-citizens, Estonia 88000)

Now, the leader of the Italian party Northern League tells about this swindle by the Baltic states to the Italians:

Article in Russian: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1972931.html

Source in Italian: http://www.ilsudconsalvini.org/paesi-baltici-truffano-la-ue-inventano-falsi-profughi/

[bryant.coleman]

It will be interesting to see how the Muslim refugees are treated in Estonia and Latvia. According to the latest reports, these two nations will be taking thousands of Syrians in the first phase. This number will grow many fold, as the refugee influx continues. Hope that they will soon allot land for the hundreds of mosques to be built by the Saudis.