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The title is self explanatory, all I shalt do from there is elaborate:
I looked into this because there art not many BitCoin options for my country. Furthermore, services lI want to obtain accept only either PayPal or Credit Card.
I tried coin2pal however it turns out PayPal is trying to shut them down.
I attempted to see bcexer however after reading around about that bloody site‘s scamming tendencies I decided I should rather avoid it.
I tried opening BitSimple however it wilt not load on any of my browsers.
I am down to VirWox... however unsure whether or not to trust them.
Thenceforth, if anyone can enlighten me to reliable, cheap, non-fraudster, no ID required (I know better than to give my real identity documents out to anyone) BitCoin to Paypal sites please let me know.
If not, however if nonetheless interested in manually helping me (as in I trade my 0,1028 BitCoins in exchange for a PayPal deposit from the other person), let me know over PM as well.
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April 26, 2015, 04:02:06 PM |
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I've used localbitcoins, there are several trusted people there. It's harder for paypal to shut down person to person exchanges, but you'll have to put your trust into someone. You could also post in the relevant board in this forum.
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April 26, 2015, 04:14:08 PM |
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I've used localbitcoins, there are several trusted people there. It's harder for paypal to shut down person to person exchanges, but you'll have to put your trust into someone. You could also post in the relevant board in this forum.
I never really understood... What is PayPal's blimey problem with BTC exchanges? Their repressive behaviour has been difficult for me to fathom. As for localbitco, its another one of those websites asking for real identity. I cannot do this for two reason: 1. Political: as the head of a clandestine movement abit like the comrades of DHKP-C, I need to protect my identity moreover those of my cadres against anything that can lead to repression of our organisation. 2. Trust: after being scammed more than once (moreover losing BitCoins), I am not sure I am going to trust any website with government ID documents like passports.
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April 26, 2015, 04:20:24 PM |
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I've used localbitcoins, there are several trusted people there. It's harder for paypal to shut down person to person exchanges, but you'll have to put your trust into someone. You could also post in the relevant board in this forum.
I never really understood... What is PayPal's blimey problem with BTC exchanges? Their repressive behaviour has been difficult for me to fathom. As for localbitco, its another one of those websites asking for real identity. I cannot do this for two reason: 1. Political: as the head of a clandestine movement abit like the comrades of DHKP-C, I need to protect my identity moreover those of my cadres against anything that can lead to repression of our organisation. 2. Trust: after being scammed more than once (moreover losing BitCoins), I am not sure I am going to trust any website with government ID documents like passports. It's not really necessary to use your real identity in localbitcoins. It's true that you'd have to trust the other party for the paypal<-> bitcoin trade but there are people that trade in localbitcoins all day and are reputable. I'd trust traders with much feedback, it's hard to fake it and it means that they've gone through many trades without causing any problems. But we also have a relevant board here with reputable members. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0
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April 26, 2015, 04:36:21 PM |
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I've used localbitcoins, there are several trusted people there. It's harder for paypal to shut down person to person exchanges, but you'll have to put your trust into someone. You could also post in the relevant board in this forum.
I never really understood... What is PayPal's blimey problem with BTC exchanges? Their repressive behaviour has been difficult for me to fathom. As for localbitco, its another one of those websites asking for real identity. I cannot do this for two reason: 1. Political: as the head of a clandestine movement abit like the comrades of DHKP-C, I need to protect my identity moreover those of my cadres against anything that can lead to repression of our organisation. 2. Trust: after being scammed more than once (moreover losing BitCoins), I am not sure I am going to trust any website with government ID documents like passports. It's not really necessary to use your real identity in localbitcoins. It's true that you'd have to trust the other party for the paypal<-> bitcoin trade but there are people that trade in localbitcoins all day and are reputable. I'd trust traders with much feedback, it's hard to fake it and it means that they've gone through many trades without causing any problems. But we also have a relevant board here with reputable members. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0Thank you, I shalt read through the board. As for localbitcoin, basically from what I understood, ID is not required for BitCoin to Paypal exchanges (what I need to do), however likelier required for PayPal to BitCoin? Is this site legit?
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April 26, 2015, 04:40:25 PM |
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Bit-x is legit and trusted. You need to put in a phone to create an account though.
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You'll be fine with virvox otherwise try localbitcoins but only deal with trusted buyers.
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April 26, 2015, 04:42:54 PM |
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virwox.com or localbitcoins
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Thank you comrades for your replies. I apologise for answering this late. Yes, VirWox worked, thank you a tonne for your help, all of you. One more question... slightly related: is this so-called e-coins debit card website " https://www.e-coin.io/" genuine or bloody rubbish?
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I use virwox for Paypal > BTC - but the fees are pretty high.
some recommend Bit-X, could someone paste their fee structure please?
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May 07, 2015, 07:22:56 AM |
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I use virwox for Paypal > BTC - but the fees are pretty high.
some recommend Bit-X, could someone paste their fee structure please?
Virwox would have been much better if they allowed bitcoin deposits to be used as soon as they reached 2-3 confirmation instead of waiting 2-3 hours for each deposit-withdrawal.
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Not sure why people still want to get in/out of Bitcoin with reversible payment methods, such as Paypal or Skrill....
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Not sure why people still want to get in/out of Bitcoin with reversible payment methods, such as Paypal or Skrill....
Because some of the services people tend to utilise the most have yet to adopt BitCoin, whilst on the other hand however, still continue to utilise systems such as PayPal. I also have yet to see sites doing the following that accept BTC: 1. Flight booking 2. Soviet era military uniforms (like soviet-power does) 3. Website TLD Domains 4. Zhaoshang suits (Maoist tunics) 5. Amongst other things
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May 12, 2015, 04:45:43 AM |
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Not sure why people still want to get in/out of Bitcoin with reversible payment methods, such as Paypal or Skrill....
Because some of the services people tend to utilise the most have yet to adopt BitCoin, whilst on the other hand however, still continue to utilise systems such as PayPal. I also have yet to see sites doing the following that accept BTC: 1. Flight booking 2. Soviet era military uniforms (like soviet-power does) 3. Website TLD Domains 4. Zhaoshang suits (Maoist tunics) 5. Amongst other things 1. pretty sure that's possible. 2. what 3. domains4bitcoin, namecheap.com 4. no idea 5. purse.io / all4btc.com for amazon
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May 12, 2015, 08:25:38 AM |
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I use virwox for Paypal > BTC - but the fees are pretty high.
some recommend Bit-X, could someone paste their fee structure please?
The official thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874312.0.
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In OP, "coming soon" is not updated. So PayPal deposit isn't integrated yet?
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May 12, 2015, 10:48:47 AM |
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USD withdrawals in BIT-x also require a full account verification. Not that this is uncumon for USD exchanges. Thankfully using the rest of the website's services only requires a simle account registration without the need of any account verifications. You can even trade Gh/s and cryptocurrencies for USD and store them in your balance which is great for being protected from volatility, but can't withdraw USD without the veriffication from what I've seen.
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May 12, 2015, 12:10:36 PM |
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1. pretty sure that's possible. 2. what 3. domains4bitcoin, namecheap.com 4. no idea 5. purse.io / all4btc.com for amazon
Was about to say roughly the same. Being ignorant of the possibilities does not mean they are not there and ready to be used.
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