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April 29, 2015, 06:05:25 AM |
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Hey there guys, I was just thinking to start tinkering with Arduinos or spark core's and hopefully, make and Internet of things (IoT) device. I just say a video on youtube of a tipping machine, any ideas or suggestions. I am a novice in this area. EDIT: here is the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67McSlKwgX8
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April 29, 2015, 07:05:34 AM |
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seems cool indeed, maybe you can make it even smaller(than the one of that video)? i could see it attached to a keychain
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April 29, 2015, 10:18:51 AM |
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seems cool indeed, maybe you can make it even smaller(than the one of that video)? i could see it attached to a keychain
I dont think that is possible. Moreover, i jsut ordered an arduino today and bought the other components at a local store. Maybe, a spark core would do the trick of making it smaller. I know you can easily see the price of your phone but i was just thinking...... Any other ideas where you can implement them?
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April 29, 2015, 11:36:28 AM |
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You could look into Jinn. It is a hardware ternary (1, 0, -1) processor designed for distributed computing/internet if things, developed by Come-from-Beyond. There is a software emulator (Jiniri) that had a proof of concept being used in Skyrim. I am told it meant many players could interact on the same screen without it becoming a slide show. The website will be back up soon, it was removed to not give any details away. Devs will soon be invited in to begin tinkering (~2 weeks), the ternary programming language is very similar to Abracadabra. See here: https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/(ann)-jinn/N.B. It is from a dev closely associated with Nxt, on Nxtforum, with assets on the Nxt Asset Exchange but the project isn't for Nxt, it is for IoT/distributed computing for the benefit of everyone in crypto and outside of it.
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April 29, 2015, 01:29:51 PM |
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AFAIK, 21 is working on it. Yes, I do know that, I've read some news about them bit they're quite secretive.
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April 29, 2015, 03:15:23 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
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April 29, 2015, 03:26:22 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
I hear you. Although the model of the future may have the machines interacting more than us. For example that fridge could do your shopping as you run out of milk and eggs. The microwave could download and suggest a meal plan as it works with the fridge on ingredients. Low on gas? no worries after dropping you off at work your car heads to the gas station to spend some bitcoins. It has also bought a water pump today to replace the one it senses is going bad. All these sorts of things could run in the background of your life.
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April 29, 2015, 03:46:47 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
No, not over the top. It's the future. And businesses will be making a lot of money off of it. IBM and Samsung have teamed up to heavily research and invest in the Internet of Things (IoT) - a model solved with blockchains. They wrote 2 whitepapers as a proof-of-concept: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDFhttp://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03662usen/GBE03662USEN.PDFI'll highlight some quotes from their latest whitepaper: Through the partnership with Samsung Electronics and collaboration with the open source communities, ADEPT successfully demonstrated four use cases using functional Samsung products: - A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering detergent (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering service parts (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously negotiating power usage (B2C)
- Samsung Large Format Displays (LFDs) autonomously displaying advertising
content (B2B).
By empowering devices to engage autonomously in markets – both financial and nonfinancial – and react to changes in markets, the IoT will create an “Economy of Things.” Virtually every device and system can potentially become a point of transaction and economic value creation for owners and users. These capabilities will be crucial to everything from enabling sharing economies to energy efficiency and distributed storage. Applying the blockchain concept to the world of IoT offers fascinating possibilities. As soon as a product completes final assembly, it can be registered by the manufacturer into a universal blockchain representing its beginning of life. Once sold, a dealer or end customer can register it to a regional blockchain (a community, city or state). When registered, the product remains a unique entity within the blockchain throughout its life. The possibility of maintaining product information, history, product revisions, warranty details and end-of-life in the blockchain means the blockchain itself can become the trusted product database. Devices will be part of ecosystems that can also require continuously evolving levels of trust. As more transactions occur between peer devices, trust will evolve between them. What starts as an interaction between two trustless peers can over time become a semi-trusted or even a trusted relationship. So washers and refrigerators of the future, for example, will be equipped with higher storage and processing capabilities that make it possible to meet blockchain requirements for a specified period of time – not only of themselves but also of light peers in their trusted environment. We expect such products to become the standard in the years to come. For example, a solar micro-grid may be commissioned for a decade or a smart street light may have been registered a few years back. When servicing or support is needed, blockchain access may verify the first registration or installation details. These technological changes could foretell the biggest revolution since the origin of general purpose computing and transaction processing systems. One strategy that does offer certainty, however, is not advisable: sitting on the sidelines and waiting for others to pioneer this technology. TL;DR: The Internet of Things can ONLY SCALE AND SURVIVE with blockchain technology. They're calling it "future-proof"...
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April 29, 2015, 03:54:33 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
No, not over the top. It's the future. And businesses will be making a lot of money off of it. IBM and Samsung have teamed up to heavily research and invest in the Internet of Things (IoT) - a model solved with blockchains. They wrote 2 whitepapers as a proof-of-concept: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDFhttp://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03662usen/GBE03662USEN.PDFI'll highlight some quotes from their latest whitepaper: Through the partnership with Samsung Electronics and collaboration with the open source communities, ADEPT successfully demonstrated four use cases using functional Samsung products: - A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering detergent (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering service parts (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously negotiating power usage (B2C)
- Samsung Large Format Displays (LFDs) autonomously displaying advertising
content (B2B).
By empowering devices to engage autonomously in markets – both financial and nonfinancial – and react to changes in markets, the IoT will create an “Economy of Things.” Virtually every device and system can potentially become a point of transaction and economic value creation for owners and users. These capabilities will be crucial to everything from enabling sharing economies to energy efficiency and distributed storage. Applying the blockchain concept to the world of IoT offers fascinating possibilities. As soon as a product completes final assembly, it can be registered by the manufacturer into a universal blockchain representing its beginning of life. Once sold, a dealer or end customer can register it to a regional blockchain (a community, city or state). When registered, the product remains a unique entity within the blockchain throughout its life. The possibility of maintaining product information, history, product revisions, warranty details and end-of-life in the blockchain means the blockchain itself can become the trusted product database. Devices will be part of ecosystems that can also require continuously evolving levels of trust. As more transactions occur between peer devices, trust will evolve between them. What starts as an interaction between two trustless peers can over time become a semi-trusted or even a trusted relationship. So washers and refrigerators of the future, for example, will be equipped with higher storage and processing capabilities that make it possible to meet blockchain requirements for a specified period of time – not only of themselves but also of light peers in their trusted environment. We expect such products to become the standard in the years to come. For example, a solar micro-grid may be commissioned for a decade or a smart street light may have been registered a few years back. When servicing or support is needed, blockchain access may verify the first registration or installation details. These technological changes could foretell the biggest revolution since the origin of general purpose computing and transaction processing systems. One strategy that does offer certainty, however, is not advisable: sitting on the sidelines and waiting for others to pioneer this technology. TL;DR: The Internet of Things can ONLY SCALE AND SURVIVE with blockchain technology. They're calling it "future-proof"... Thats an amazing piece of information, just like a goldmine ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) What do you think of a simple IoT project?
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April 29, 2015, 04:25:24 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
I hear you. Although the model of the future may have the machines interacting more than us. For example that fridge could do your shopping as you run out of milk and eggs. The microwave could download and suggest a meal plan as it works with the fridge on ingredients. Low on gas? no worries after dropping you off at work your car heads to the gas station to spend some bitcoins. It has also bought a water pump today to replace the one it senses is going bad. All these sorts of things could run in the background of your life. I dont mean to pick, But i had to laugh at the idea of the microwave ordering nutritous meals for you only to zap the nutrition right out of it. Disclaimer, microwaves fuck your food.
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April 29, 2015, 04:27:11 PM |
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Link your electric doorlocks to Facebook. Anyone you unfriend cant enter your home, lol
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April 29, 2015, 04:30:09 PM |
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I dont mean to pick,
But i had to laugh at the idea of the microwave ordering nutritous meals for you only to zap the nutrition right out of it.
Disclaimer, microwaves fuck your food.
It is funny. But I didn't think the brick/charcoal pizza oven would have wifi. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 29, 2015, 04:34:21 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
No, not over the top. It's the future. And businesses will be making a lot of money off of it. IBM and Samsung have teamed up to heavily research and invest in the Internet of Things (IoT) - a model solved with blockchains. They wrote 2 whitepapers as a proof-of-concept: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDFhttp://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03662usen/GBE03662USEN.PDFI'll highlight some quotes from their latest whitepaper: Through the partnership with Samsung Electronics and collaboration with the open source communities, ADEPT successfully demonstrated four use cases using functional Samsung products: - A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering detergent (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering service parts (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously negotiating power usage (B2C)
- Samsung Large Format Displays (LFDs) autonomously displaying advertising
content (B2B).
By empowering devices to engage autonomously in markets – both financial and nonfinancial – and react to changes in markets, the IoT will create an “Economy of Things.” Virtually every device and system can potentially become a point of transaction and economic value creation for owners and users. These capabilities will be crucial to everything from enabling sharing economies to energy efficiency and distributed storage. Applying the blockchain concept to the world of IoT offers fascinating possibilities. As soon as a product completes final assembly, it can be registered by the manufacturer into a universal blockchain representing its beginning of life. Once sold, a dealer or end customer can register it to a regional blockchain (a community, city or state). When registered, the product remains a unique entity within the blockchain throughout its life. The possibility of maintaining product information, history, product revisions, warranty details and end-of-life in the blockchain means the blockchain itself can become the trusted product database. Devices will be part of ecosystems that can also require continuously evolving levels of trust. As more transactions occur between peer devices, trust will evolve between them. What starts as an interaction between two trustless peers can over time become a semi-trusted or even a trusted relationship. So washers and refrigerators of the future, for example, will be equipped with higher storage and processing capabilities that make it possible to meet blockchain requirements for a specified period of time – not only of themselves but also of light peers in their trusted environment. We expect such products to become the standard in the years to come. For example, a solar micro-grid may be commissioned for a decade or a smart street light may have been registered a few years back. When servicing or support is needed, blockchain access may verify the first registration or installation details. These technological changes could foretell the biggest revolution since the origin of general purpose computing and transaction processing systems. One strategy that does offer certainty, however, is not advisable: sitting on the sidelines and waiting for others to pioneer this technology. TL;DR: The Internet of Things can ONLY SCALE AND SURVIVE with blockchain technology. They're calling it "future-proof"... And how will this blockchain self regulate and function without a cryptocurrency that acts as a means of incentive for the miners to keep it going? I dont get all those "blockchain without a crypto" projects.
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April 29, 2015, 05:23:49 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
No, not over the top. It's the future. And businesses will be making a lot of money off of it. IBM and Samsung have teamed up to heavily research and invest in the Internet of Things (IoT) - a model solved with blockchains. They wrote 2 whitepapers as a proof-of-concept: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDFhttp://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03662usen/GBE03662USEN.PDFI'll highlight some quotes from their latest whitepaper: Through the partnership with Samsung Electronics and collaboration with the open source communities, ADEPT successfully demonstrated four use cases using functional Samsung products: - A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering detergent (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously reordering service parts (B2C)
- A W9000 Samsung washer autonomously negotiating power usage (B2C)
- Samsung Large Format Displays (LFDs) autonomously displaying advertising
content (B2B).
By empowering devices to engage autonomously in markets – both financial and nonfinancial – and react to changes in markets, the IoT will create an “Economy of Things.” Virtually every device and system can potentially become a point of transaction and economic value creation for owners and users. These capabilities will be crucial to everything from enabling sharing economies to energy efficiency and distributed storage. Applying the blockchain concept to the world of IoT offers fascinating possibilities. As soon as a product completes final assembly, it can be registered by the manufacturer into a universal blockchain representing its beginning of life. Once sold, a dealer or end customer can register it to a regional blockchain (a community, city or state). When registered, the product remains a unique entity within the blockchain throughout its life. The possibility of maintaining product information, history, product revisions, warranty details and end-of-life in the blockchain means the blockchain itself can become the trusted product database. Devices will be part of ecosystems that can also require continuously evolving levels of trust. As more transactions occur between peer devices, trust will evolve between them. What starts as an interaction between two trustless peers can over time become a semi-trusted or even a trusted relationship. So washers and refrigerators of the future, for example, will be equipped with higher storage and processing capabilities that make it possible to meet blockchain requirements for a specified period of time – not only of themselves but also of light peers in their trusted environment. We expect such products to become the standard in the years to come. For example, a solar micro-grid may be commissioned for a decade or a smart street light may have been registered a few years back. When servicing or support is needed, blockchain access may verify the first registration or installation details. These technological changes could foretell the biggest revolution since the origin of general purpose computing and transaction processing systems. One strategy that does offer certainty, however, is not advisable: sitting on the sidelines and waiting for others to pioneer this technology. TL;DR: The Internet of Things can ONLY SCALE AND SURVIVE with blockchain technology. They're calling it "future-proof"... And how will this blockchain self regulate and function without a cryptocurrency that acts as a means of incentive for the miners to keep it going? I dont get all those "blockchain without a crypto" projects. Ummm... it is still based on cryptocurrency. IBM is leveraging Ethereum. "Ether" is a fancy new word for "bitcoin."
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April 29, 2015, 05:25:36 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
I hear you. Although the model of the future may have the machines interacting more than us. For example that fridge could do your shopping as you run out of milk and eggs. The microwave could download and suggest a meal plan as it works with the fridge on ingredients. Low on gas? no worries after dropping you off at work your car heads to the gas station to spend some bitcoins. It has also bought a water pump today to replace the one it senses is going bad. All these sorts of things could run in the background of your life. All that does is being prone to being hacked 24/7, since you'll have it all connected to the same wifi, and once a hacker gets into your fridge, he may jump in your computer. I dont know, not convinced by this shit myself as well.
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April 29, 2015, 07:14:35 PM |
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For me the "internet of things" is still a cool sounding buzzwork, but I don't see the benefits from having, say, microwave oven and a fridge that's connected to the internet. Isn that a bit over the top? this being connected to everything constantly is getting pathological imo.
I hear you. Although the model of the future may have the machines interacting more than us. For example that fridge could do your shopping as you run out of milk and eggs. The microwave could download and suggest a meal plan as it works with the fridge on ingredients. Low on gas? no worries after dropping you off at work your car heads to the gas station to spend some bitcoins. It has also bought a water pump today to replace the one it senses is going bad. All these sorts of things could run in the background of your life. All that does is being prone to being hacked 24/7, since you'll have it all connected to the same wifi, and once a hacker gets into your fridge, he may jump in your computer. I dont know, not convinced by this shit myself as well. Each device acts independently. WiFi facilitates a transaction. A hacker can't do anything unless they control a private key.
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April 29, 2015, 09:29:09 PM |
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Hey there guys, I was just thinking to start tinkering with Arduinos or spark core's and hopefully, make and Internet of things (IoT) device. I just say a video on youtube of a tipping machine, any ideas or suggestions. I am a novice in this area. EDIT: here is the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67McSlKwgX8Well, that wasn't much IoT, but just general hooking up Arduino and a bit of coding. Regarding combining Bitcoin and IoT , one can actually invest something like machines or things , or say a fridge for rental. Basically the fridge would be having a QR code(of the owner), who would rent it, and it would be paid for, by some person, and when the rental period is over, it would lock or shutdown, and to reopen, the person would do the same. Not exactly IoT but something similar. The biggest use of the IoT would be from the blockchain, like Jakesy said. Since it would be the IoT in the future, I am sure it will require a currency , and an infrastructure, which will be satisfied by bitcoin and the blockchain. PS: The price back then was so low, he must have make 5x his holdings just next month after that video.
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April 30, 2015, 01:20:23 AM |
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Disclaimer, microwaves fuck your food.
Strange ,google says otherwise.In fact most called this a food myth.
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April 30, 2015, 04:29:00 AM |
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Hey there guys, I was just thinking to start tinkering with Arduinos or spark core's and hopefully, make and Internet of things (IoT) device. I just say a video on youtube of a tipping machine, any ideas or suggestions. I am a novice in this area. EDIT: here is the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67McSlKwgX8Well, that wasn't much IoT, but just general hooking up Arduino and a bit of coding. Regarding combining Bitcoin and IoT , one can actually invest something like machines or things , or say a fridge for rental. Basically the fridge would be having a QR code(of the owner), who would rent it, and it would be paid for, by some person, and when the rental period is over, it would lock or shutdown, and to reopen, the person would do the same. Not exactly IoT but something similar. The biggest use of the IoT would be from the blockchain, like Jakesy said. Since it would be the IoT in the future, I am sure it will require a currency , and an infrastructure, which will be satisfied by bitcoin and the blockchain. PS: The price back then was so low, he must have make 5x his holdings just next month after that video. Maybe a vending machine which accepts bitcoin. And it logs everything on the internet
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