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August 31, 2012, 12:05:25 AM
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August 31, 2012, 12:24:32 AM
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August 31, 2012, 12:29:43 AM
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Legality aside, decency would suggest you should put a notice on the "private message" page stating that the messages are not private and may be read by moderators.

They're "personal messages", not "private messages". Wink

I think it's obvious that the administrators of a site will check PMs when necessary, but I added a note to the page.
I think it's great that you are disclosing the PMs to the police, and if that fails, publicly. Freedom of information is necessary to bring justice, and once one waives privacy they should not expect it.
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August 31, 2012, 02:06:05 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

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August 31, 2012, 02:07:22 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."
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August 31, 2012, 03:29:09 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."

He asked for three pieces of information:  forum/irc nick, address, balance.  Everything else is just fud.

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August 31, 2012, 03:34:03 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."

He asked for three pieces of information:  forum/irc nick, address, balance.  Everything else is just fud.

Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming.   :/    This wont end well.

Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.

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August 31, 2012, 03:36:14 AM
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Trust no one. And don't communicate here. That's what I gathered so far. Posts, PMs and Emails are all open and readable, and someone can always sniff your packets or something. Encryption is important.

And you don't need to answer anything, but you might not get what you want if you don't answer.

I don't even know what happened. Just that everyone is losing sleep over bitcoins. heheh.

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August 31, 2012, 03:43:07 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."

He asked for three pieces of information:  forum/irc nick, address, balance.  Everything else is just fud.

Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming.   :/    This wont end well.

Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.

I don't know about illegal, but it's unethical. His obligations are to the pass-through operators. Not the individual customers of those operators.

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August 31, 2012, 04:17:11 AM
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What are your thoughts about Pirate if he pays back some accounts and not other. Like what if he claims he needs a list of information about people before he sends coins? Would that be scamming?

That's scamming.

"Hey, I would love to pay you back, but first you need to give me your credit card number, expiry date, and mother's maiden name."

He asked for three pieces of information:  forum/irc nick, address, balance.  Everything else is just fud.

Still what pirate is really asking for is illegal and scamming.   :/    This wont end well.

Please tell me how its illegal for him to ask for that.

I don't know about illegal, but it's unethical. His obligations are to the pass-through operators. Not the individual customers of those operators.

My lawyer said don't do it. And my lawyer want to talk to Pirates. Pirate wont give that info up Sad

Then send him a certified letter.  Its not like he wasn't dox'd all over the forums.

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August 31, 2012, 04:18:42 AM
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The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.

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August 31, 2012, 04:20:00 AM
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The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.

the people on the forum seem pretty certain of his identity, even going so far as to call previous employers.. I'd say thats enough info to send him a certified letter.

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August 31, 2012, 04:26:19 AM
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I disagree with your faith in mobs.

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August 31, 2012, 04:28:52 AM
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The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.

the people on the forum seem pretty certain of his identity, even going so far as to call previous employers.. I'd say thats enough info to send him a certified letter.

I will only have my lawyer send certified mail to other lawyers :/

LOL, now you're just making excuses.

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August 31, 2012, 04:40:47 AM
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I will only have my lawyer send certified mail to other lawyers :/

If you'd rather not involve lawyers, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20985.0

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August 31, 2012, 05:22:11 AM
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I will only have my lawyer send certified mail to other lawyers :/

Based on the comment he made to you on IRC, certified mail is the only form of communication his lawyer will be using (helps rein in legal expenses, anyway).

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 31, 2012, 05:34:40 AM
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The guy hasn't confirmed his identity. most of this makes no sense.

People who've actually met him have confirmed that he's the the same person who has an online presence as Trendon Shavers.  There's a photo of Goat sitting next to him.  Various other pieces of information confirm that he's the real Trendon Shavers and not just someone who has hijacked that identity (the whole family uses a lot of social media - there's a lot of old shit hanging around which is easily found and plenty of photos).

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 31, 2012, 06:23:12 AM
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Internet detectives shouldn't be required. Its as if pirate is trying to make sure Matthew has no chance of winning his bet. I mean, just PM an address for certified mail... PM an address for his attorney...

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August 31, 2012, 06:35:06 AM
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Internet detectives shouldn't be required. Its as if pirate is trying to make sure Matthew has no chance of winning his bet. I mean, just PM an address for certified mail... PM an address for his attorney...

Goat ASKED him for his lawyer's contact details and he didn't provide them.  He said that information will be available on Friday.  He appears to want the lender information from the PPT operators before he gives out the contact information for his lawyers and people are rightly suspicious of that.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 31, 2012, 08:09:05 AM
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Internet detectives shouldn't be required.

Indeed. Probably the IRS and other 3 letters agencies would love to hear about this story and would work for free exacting revenge.
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