Investing Bitcoin in stocks and bonds

[freehorizon]

Most investments in the Bitcoin world regard Bitcoin as an asset. So, they go long or short on the Bitcoin (with whatever currency they possess).
I am wondering if there is a demand for using Bitcoin as a currency. The assets, such as stocks and bonds can be denominated using Bitcoin as a currency.
Why do you think we don't see trading arenas which use the Bitcoin as a currency?

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[Amph]

maybe because it's too unstable? it might bring some trouble in calculating the revenue

[scryptasicminer]

There are many still considered btc a scam rather than a currency.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't know about anyone else, but for me, there is nothing that I need in life that requires bitcoin.  If I needed to do a transaction anonymously then bitcoin might be useful.  I don't need to send any money across the globe to scammy 3rd world scunts and I'm not purchasing anything illegal.  Using bitcoin as a currency is just a complete waste of time for me.

You certainly can price a stock or bond in terms of btc, but why bother doing so?  The closing price of Coca-Cola stock today was $40.75, and this translates to 0.19067796 btc.  Oh wait, in a minute the value of that share is going to change because the value of btc is SO FUCKING VOLATILE.  Eh, yeah, no.

[fullypak]

Based on my understanding, one of the primary motivations for low capital gains tax rates (relative to ordinary income) is to encourage people to invest their money in the economy, which then allows the economy to grow.

While this is true of stocks, bonds, etc., hoarding Bitcoins produces no positive benefit for either the Bitcoin economy or the broader economy. Bitcoin holders are  speculators, not investors.

[Undermood]

cos bitcoin is still a minority of ppl's play game and  is not recognized as a currency yet by the govs. And there is no many applications yet in our real life.

[chriswen]

Hi,

Some of these people might be slightly misinformed.

There are sites that allow trading of stocks and indices.  Indices are groups of stocks and they usually perform well long term.

So check out 1broker, it seems like something you might be looking for.

1broker allows for the trading of CFD's (contract for difference).  What this means is that you're actually not exposed to Bitcoin volatility.  So if you're long Bitcoin this is a great offer.  It means that if the stock price goes up 5% you get 5% more Bitcoin (on 1x leverage).

Sign up here, https://1broker.com/m/r.php?i=3799

So 1broker is more oriented towards active traders as that's where people can make more profits but its also suitable for buy and hold investors.

If you're doing an unleveraged trade you will not have to pay overnight financing fees.  That's probably good for you, so you won't be incurring fees if you're a passive investor.

What can you trade at 1broker?

• Indices (20x leverage)
• • DAX (German 30)
  • Dow Jones 30 Industrial
  • S&P 500
• Stocks (15x leverage)
• • Alibaba
  • Amazon
  • Apple
  • Cisco
  • Facebook
  • Google
  • GoPro
  • Intel
  • Microsoft
  • Netflix
  • Tesla
• Commodities (20x leverage)
• • Crude Oil (WTI)
  • Gold
  • Silver
• Forex (up to 200x leverage)

When you use leverage you're going to need to pay an overnight lending rate.  But unlike normal brokers they don't charge on weekends and they don't triple charge on wednesdays.  All in all I think its a great option for investing in stocks with Bitcoin.  They offer you a no hassle way to do it.

If you're wondering how they make money, they hedge your investments with real dollars.  That's why they need to charge an overnight lending rate.

And they also hedge for btc/usd fluctuations.  They make money by having a small spread.

https://1broker.com/ (non-ref)

https://1broker.com/m/r.php?i=3799

[BitCoinPokerBro]

I'll wait for Medici https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/medici-will-real-bitcoin-2-0-stock-exchange/ no new info has been released recently though so probably 2016 launch.

[JackRipper]

Hi,

Some of these people might be slightly misinformed.

There are sites that allow trading of stocks and indices.  Indices are groups of stocks and they usually perform well long term.

So check out 1broker, it seems like something you might be looking for.

1broker allows for the trading of CFD's (contract for difference).  What this means is that you're actually not exposed to Bitcoin volatility.  So if you're long Bitcoin this is a great offer.  It means that if the stock price goes up 5% you get 5% more Bitcoin (on 1x leverage).

Sign up here, https://1broker.com/m/r.php?i=3799

So 1broker is more oriented towards active traders as that's where people can make more profits but its also suitable for buy and hold investors.

If you're doing an unleveraged trade you will not have to pay overnight financing fees.  That's probably good for you, so you won't be incurring fees if you're a passive investor.

What can you trade at 1broker?

• Indices (20x leverage)
• • DAX (German 30)
  • Dow Jones 30 Industrial
  • S&P 500
• Stocks (15x leverage)
• • Alibaba
  • Amazon
  • Apple
  • Cisco
  • Facebook
  • Google
  • GoPro
  • Intel
  • Microsoft
  • Netflix
  • Tesla
• Commodities (20x leverage)
• • Crude Oil (WTI)
  • Gold
  • Silver
• Forex (up to 200x leverage)

When you use leverage you're going to need to pay an overnight lending rate.  But unlike normal brokers they don't charge on weekends and they don't triple charge on wednesdays.  All in all I think its a great option for investing in stocks with Bitcoin.  They offer you a no hassle way to do it.

If you're wondering how they make money, they hedge your investments with real dollars.  That's why they need to charge an overnight lending rate.

And they also hedge for btc/usd fluctuations.  They make money by having a small spread.

https://1broker.com/ (non-ref)

https://1broker.com/m/r.php?i=3799

I would be very careful about investing with a broker like this. All legitimate brokers follow the "KYC" laws or they risk being shut down by the SEC (or their country's equivalent). This site requires no KYC information and if they don't close up shop and run off with your BTC, they will probably be shut down by the government in the near future.

[Pab]

 There is no legslation for bitcoin like a currency,you can buy company assets in several places,now new exchange Finland based is offering that,you can even buy with them physical gold coins,very nice exchange
You can buy on barter exchange coninsortium some company ipo

samy on counterparty,horizon and bitcoinbourse,but investing in stocks with broker it can be risky

[Miracal]

There are a few reasons, such as all of the stocks and bonds are priced in terms of fiat money, whose issuing institutions raises fiat money capital through IPO. Fiat money is the most accepted currency. Another factors is legislation concern, conversion fees, and price volatility issue.