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Question: Should Pirate@40 get a scammer tag? *  (Voting closed: August 31, 2012, 11:54:29 AM)
No - 23 (8.5%)
Yes - 119 (43.8%)
Who is Pirate? - 11 (4%)
I don't care - 20 (7.4%)
Yes, at least until he pays. - 99 (36.4%)
Total Voters: 272

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August 29, 2012, 11:54:29 AM
Last edit: August 29, 2012, 01:29:06 PM by wrend
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*(as at 29-31Aug2012)

This poll is here to demonstrate how BTC community views Pirate, whether he/she is considered a scammer or not.

For extra clarity please note the pole question here is: "Should Pirate@40 get a scammer tag?*" and not "Is pirate is a scammer?"
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August 29, 2012, 11:56:44 AM
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Pretty sure Theymos already said he will get one, under condition I'm certain given pirates recent statements said in IRC he obviously fail to commit to.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104261.msg1141973#msg1141973

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August 29, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
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Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!
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August 29, 2012, 12:27:50 PM
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Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.

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August 29, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
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Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.

Just tell the fbi everyone sent it as a gift because of how awesome you are.

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August 29, 2012, 01:01:29 PM
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Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.

Actually Robbery requires force or threat of force - he would be guilty of theft through False Pretenses - Obtaining property by false pretenses is when a person obtains property by intentionally misrepresenting a past or existing fact.
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August 29, 2012, 01:07:47 PM
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No    7 (13%)

7 PPT operators ?

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August 29, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
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7 PPT operators ?

Scammed 'investors' in denial.






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August 29, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
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Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

Not even that.

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August 29, 2012, 05:19:40 PM
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Seems pretty cut and dry to me: He took money with a promise to repay, but didn't repay as asked. He should get the scammer tag to warn anybody who is new to the forum and has not watched this whole mess unfold.

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August 29, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
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IMHO, he should have gotten the scammer tag the Monday he didn't give bitlane his coin. He acknowledged on the forums that he had been contacted with the "j/k you nut" message in his BS&T edit. Scammer tags should be pretty cut and dry with two requirements:

1) That you've made a promise to pay and it clearly isn't a joke,
2) That you subsequently don't pay.

The problem is that all these people do agreements without time-frames or vagueness about what constitutes an agreement, which is why they should honestly be using escrows so such a thing doesn't show up on the forums.

Somewhere between 2010 and today we went from always using escrows to never using them, and I'm not sure why.
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August 29, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
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Comparing that Matthew at one point got a scammer tag by delaying 1BTC payment by a week or so. This indeed appears to be a case of double standards, does it not?


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August 29, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
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Comparing that Matthew at one point got a scammer tag by delaying 1BTC payment by a week or so. This indeed appears to be a case of double standards, does it not?



Yes, but I understand the decision to withhold judgement. It's politics.
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August 29, 2012, 06:46:25 PM
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He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.
Just tell the fbi everyone sent it as a gift because of how awesome you are.
It's called embezzlement.
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August 29, 2012, 07:21:09 PM
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Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.

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August 29, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
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Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.
It is 0% for the waiting period as I understand.
He have declared that BTCST has defaulted.
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August 29, 2012, 08:20:47 PM
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Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.
It is 0% for the waiting period as I understand.
He have declared that BTCST has defaulted.

But in the post where he said he was closing down BCTST, he said people would still be earning intrest. He changed terms and therefore, he is a scammer.

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August 29, 2012, 10:13:08 PM
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Can I get some thousands of bitcoins? I will take 20 scammer tags!



I will bet 500 pennies that nothing happens to Pirate, he'll pay back what he can... TONS of people will cry to the police/fbi whatever, but they'll be like uhhh, thanks for the details goodbye....


Everyone willingly gave this dude their money.. No way in hell is a forum post a legal binding contract.....


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August 29, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
Last edit: August 30, 2012, 03:20:07 PM by evolve
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Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.


Everyone look at this post and laugh.


Then look at his signature and laugh even harder.





Edit: apparently he deleted his comment. I'm going to leave this up anyways.
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August 30, 2012, 12:20:17 AM
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http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV

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