Remove Satoshi as Founding Member, Says Bitcoin Foundation Director

[ChuckBuck]

Can we remove Bitcoin from the Bitcoin Foundation name?  Ha!

I agree, they should just rename and rebrand everything!  Here's their newly renamed foundation:

http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/

Truly a more logical name and symbolic one at it too....

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[Beliathon]

they just listed him as a founding member to appear to have cred.

QFT. It's the same reason "Federal Express" and "Federal Reserve" have the word federal in their names. Marketing. Nothing more.

[koelen3]

That's actually kind of funny , i understand his means that he wants no one to have the founder tag of BTC so to make it purely decentralized but Satoshi really gave us something good , Something very good and we have been enjoying this from so long , He deserves to be called as the Founder and even if somehow it is removed from the books , He will always be considered a founder in people's heart and mind. In mine atleast

[tss]

the bitcoin foundation is not bitcoin!

no matter how much they claim to represent its interests.

using satoshi's name to legitimize themselves is just pathetic.
nothing has been shown that satoshi, in any way, participated in starting the foundation.

[bennybong]

I get what he's saying, satoshi has/had nothing to do with the bitcoin foundation. Remove him as a founder by all means but don't forget to add him as THE GENIUS CREATOR OF BITCOIN WHO CHANGED THE WORLD. No?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Why does bitcoin even need these assholes?

[pawel7777]

How about we remove TBF? How can they even think of such a thing. If there was no Satoshi there would have been no Bitcoin. No Bitcoin = no Bitcoin Foundation.

Most of you guys are totally missing a point.

TBF have been criticised in the past for listing Satoshi as founder member (without his consent). Satoshi had nothing to do with TBF, and it looked like they put his name there to add some credibility.

I fully support Fenton on this one.

[Gleb Gamow]

As part of a newly published roadmap for the Bitcoin Foundation, executive director Bruce Fenton has suggested removing bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto as a founding member.

Though he called for the removal of all founding members from the organisation, Fenton singled out Nakamoto's inclusion as "not accurate", arguing that he or she was never involved in the group's creation.

SOURCE: http://www.coindesk.com/remove-satoshi-as-founding-member-says-bitcoin-foundation-director/

Bruce Fenton also motioned to have all seating at TBF Central to be orange because such chairs were never meant to be bluish-gray. And, since the average height of people has grown over the last century, tables measuring thirty inches tall should be increased to thirty-one inches, a prime number.

Meanwhile, rumor has it that some Bitcoin-related stuff was being worked on at TBF, but the powers that be are looking into those allegations in hopes of uncovering who penned that Twitter leak.

[Gleb Gamow]

I appreciate this move from Bruce. It is better to keep the founder clean from all the scams.

I missed the PR where SN denounced TBF due to tarnishing his good name. Or, I guess it wasn't worth his efforts to come outta the closet to express removal.

[Velkro]

SOURCE: http://www.coindesk.com/remove-satoshi-as-founding-member-says-bitcoin-foundation-director/

Great news, this should happend asap. Non existent member is not good for foundation

[Eastfist]

Bruce Fenton is trying to make it seem like it was his idea. LOL. It's like he joined the party too late and now just saying what he thinks Satoshi wants to hear. Satoshi wanted to be removed from the Foundation as "the founding member", but that doesn't mean he didn't appreciate the gesture. It's always about association, or risk management. Satoshi didn't want people claiming he did stuff he didn't do. And, for the record, I thought they already removed Satoshi's name already. So what the heck is Bruce Fenton plotting? Maybe, it is like what one poster already said, he's going to try to claim Satoshi never existed and claim to be the founder. Shame.

[SaltySpitoon]

I doubt Satoshi would want to be part of the Bitcoin foundation, so I agree with removing Satoshi from the tarnishing name of the Bitcoin foundation. Then, when then next foundation member goes to jail, the media will have a little bit less fuel for "CEO OF BITCOIN GOES TO JAIL" articles.

[/dislikes Bitcoin Foundation on principal]

[fryarminer]

Can we remove Bitcoin from the Bitcoin Foundation name?  Ha!

Yeah, let's remove "Foundation" from the name too.

[BruceFenton]

Really disappointing to read the replies on this thread.

Usually BitcoinTalk has thoughtful people who actually read the source material before jumping on a bandwagon and attacking.

Some facts:

- when I became ED a couple weeks ago I asked for and collected over 170 pieces of feedback from this board and many others -- one common request was that people wanted Satoshis name removed as a founder

- I suggest removing Satoshis name as founder of Bitcoin Foundation simply because it's not accurate - Satoshi didn't found the Bitcoin Foundation any more than he founded ZapChain, Bitpay or Coinbase - this isn't removing Satoshi as creator of Bitcoin ....just the foundation

- obviously this isn't a slight against Satoshi - my suggestion for those who watched the actual speech this info was taken from was that we offer Satoshi a board seat if she or she ever comes forward -- it's highly hypothetical and symbolic now as it's unlikely to ever happen

- Gavin has not left, he is still Chief Scientist

- the Bitcoin Foundation still exists and is very much alive - we are working on many things including adoption work, education initiatives and a speakers bureau that was just started today and already includes some very top names


If you are angry at this headline because you think it's a slam against Satoshi, don't be....it's absolutely not and that should be clear if you review the slides or watched the actual speech.

If you are angry at the Bitcoin Foundation because of its past wrongs, don't be....100% of the team is gone, the board is now 100% elected and it has new plans, a new start and new leadership.

Thanks

[BruceFenton]

the bitcoin foundation is not bitcoin!

no matter how much they claim to represent its interests.

using satoshi's name to legitimize themselves is just pathetic.
nothing has been shown that satoshi, in any way, participated in starting the foundation.

If you read the actual source slides mentioned and included in the article you'd see that I said exactly that on the very first slide in the presentation.

It's okay to hate...I can take it...just be accurate about what you are hating.

[BruceFenton]

Bruce Fenton is trying to make it seem like it was his idea. LOL. It's like he joined the party too late and now just saying what he thinks Satoshi wants to hear. Satoshi wanted to be removed from the Foundation as "the founding member", but that doesn't mean he didn't appreciate the gesture. It's always about association, or risk management. Satoshi didn't want people claiming he did stuff he didn't do. And, for the record, I thought they already removed Satoshi's name already. So what the heck is Bruce Fenton plotting? Maybe, it is like what one poster already said, he's going to try to claim Satoshi never existed and claim to be the founder. Shame.

I was pretty clear in this:  this was based on feedback I recieved from many people.   A lot of people feel it's not accurate to list Satoshi as a founder because he/she didn't actually agree to do so.  Nothing more.

Personally I didn't feel that strongly about it but it's easy enough to make a request to change the bylaws and it seemed to fit well with a spirit of transparency and a new leaf.

My suggestion to remove all founding members is because, 1) per the bylaws the position means nothing now that the board is elected as the plan was originally written to phase them out by December 2014. 2) frankly, I don't like that an organization I'm associated with lists Mark Karpeles in a prominent spot on the bylaws on page one.   He has nothing to do with the organization now and sure as heck doesn't have anything to do with leadership...I'd rather his name be deleted and we move on.

Founding members who are still active: Roger Ver (who is joining the speakers bureau) Gavin (chief scientist) and Patrick Murck (advisor) can be a part of other areas of the website etc.

[Eastfist]

Bruce Fenton is trying to make it seem like it was his idea. LOL. It's like he joined the party too late and now just saying what he thinks Satoshi wants to hear. Satoshi wanted to be removed from the Foundation as "the founding member", but that doesn't mean he didn't appreciate the gesture. It's always about association, or risk management. Satoshi didn't want people claiming he did stuff he didn't do. And, for the record, I thought they already removed Satoshi's name already. So what the heck is Bruce Fenton plotting? Maybe, it is like what one poster already said, he's going to try to claim Satoshi never existed and claim to be the founder. Shame.

I was pretty clear in this:  this was based on feedback I recieved from many people.   A lot of people feel it's not accurate to list Satoshi as a founder because he/she didn't actually agree to do so.  Nothing more.

Personally I didn't feel that strongly about it but it's easy enough to make a request to change the bylaws and it seemed to fit well with a spirit of transparency and a new leaf.

My suggestion to remove all founding members is because, 1) per the bylaws the position means nothing now that the board is elected as the plan was originally written to phase them out by December 2014. 2) frankly, I don't like that an organization I'm associated with lists Mark Karpeles in a prominent spot on the bylaws on page one.   He has nothing to do with the organization now and sure as heck doesn't have anything to do with leadership...I'd rather his name be deleted and we move on.

Founding members who are still active: Roger Ver (who is joining the speakers bureau) Gavin (chief scientist) and Patrick Murck (advisor) can be a part of other areas of the website etc.

LOL. So much for transparency. Everyone on the Bitcoin Foundation knows my real identity but just so happen to "slip their minds". It's utterly disrespectful. You use my invention and made a lot of money with it, but now pretend like I was never part of it. No one wonders why I never wanted to associate myself with "your people". This is basic manners and courtesy, I don't care about the money, but dammit, you can't even acknowledge that Bitcoin was my invention. That's some very shady stuff. Don't make it like it was YOUR idea to remove me from the foundation. I requested it years ago. It's funny how the accounts I used to post on here were all hijacked.

It really boggles my mind why Bitcoiners are so damn rude.

[Lauda]

I was pretty clear in this:  this was based on feedback I recieved from many people.   A lot of people feel it's not accurate to list Satoshi as a founder because he/she didn't actually agree to do so.  Nothing more.

Personally I didn't feel that strongly about it but it's easy enough to make a request to change the bylaws and it seemed to fit well with a spirit of transparency and a new leaf.

My suggestion to remove all founding members is because, 1) per the bylaws the position means nothing now that the board is elected as the plan was originally written to phase them out by December 2014. 2) frankly, I don't like that an organization I'm associated with lists Mark Karpeles in a prominent spot on the bylaws on page one.   He has nothing to do with the organization now and sure as heck doesn't have anything to do with leadership...I'd rather his name be deleted and we move on.

Founding members who are still active: Roger Ver (who is joining the speakers bureau) Gavin (chief scientist) and Patrick Murck (advisor) can be a part of other areas of the website etc.

Well since you're all about feedback why haven't you removed proposed removing Bitcoin from the name?
A lot of people have been requesting that here as far back as I remember. There are even people in the thread right now.

[Amph]

Why does bitcoin even need these assholes?

it doesn't, and it feel like a centralized thing with all the fuss about this foundation, now they want to remove the realf "director of bitcoin" because of transparancy...all bullshit i say, when they are the first not being transparent

If you are angry at the Bitcoin Foundation because of its past wrongs, don't be....100% of the team is gone, the board is now 100% elected and it has new plans, a new start and new leadership.

it doesn't mean that they will do better though...

[BruceFenton]

I was pretty clear in this:  this was based on feedback I recieved from many people.   A lot of people feel it's not accurate to list Satoshi as a founder because he/she didn't actually agree to do so.  Nothing more.

Personally I didn't feel that strongly about it but it's easy enough to make a request to change the bylaws and it seemed to fit well with a spirit of transparency and a new leaf.

My suggestion to remove all founding members is because, 1) per the bylaws the position means nothing now that the board is elected as the plan was originally written to phase them out by December 2014. 2) frankly, I don't like that an organization I'm associated with lists Mark Karpeles in a prominent spot on the bylaws on page one.   He has nothing to do with the organization now and sure as heck doesn't have anything to do with leadership...I'd rather his name be deleted and we move on.

Founding members who are still active: Roger Ver (who is joining the speakers bureau) Gavin (chief scientist) and Patrick Murck (advisor) can be a part of other areas of the website etc.

Well since you're all about feedback why haven't you removed proposed removing Bitcoin from the name?
A lot of people have been requesting that here as far back as I remember. There are even people in the thread right now.

There are too many assets like Twitter and website and membership chapters to remove Bitcoin from the name.   If we did someone else would simply use it as well.