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Author Topic: China's currency is worth double that of USD. WTF? How is this possible?  (Read 1654 times)
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April 30, 2015, 09:19:25 PM
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Per https://i.imgur.com/rhArHSS.jpg

I do not understand how China's currency can be almost twice the value of USD? USD GDP is almost double that of China, PLUS USD is the global reserve currency, so there's even more of it out there than there otherwise would be.

Please, someone explain this to me!?

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April 30, 2015, 09:28:17 PM
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Actually there are several Reserve Currencies, being the US dollar, Euro and Japanese Yen the major ones, China is now pushing for Chinese yuan to also become a Reserve Currency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency#Major_reserve_currencies

http://www.wsj.com/articles/momentum-builds-to-label-chinese-yuan-a-reserve-currency-1427926918

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April 30, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
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But still, USD is more common a reserve currency. So how can it only be half the value?
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April 30, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
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But still, USD is more common a reserve currency. So how can it only be half the value?

That I don't know, I had no idea Chinese economy was that big, apparently the biggest one.

Maybe there's something wrong with those numbers...

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April 30, 2015, 11:25:21 PM
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But still, USD is more common a reserve currency. So how can it only be half the value?

That I don't know, I had no idea Chinese economy was that big, apparently the biggest one.

Maybe there's something wrong with those numbers...

The Chinese economy is not that big compared to US though, barely over half the size.
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May 01, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
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But still, USD is more common a reserve currency. So how can it only be half the value?

That I don't know, I had no idea Chinese economy was that big, apparently the biggest one.

Maybe there's something wrong with those numbers...

The Chinese economy is not that big compared to US though, barely over half the size.

The U.S. produces a little over 22% of the world GDP while China produces about 9%.

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May 01, 2015, 12:53:40 AM
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Generally, the value of a money type is dependent on the demand, which is the demand to hold, and the supply, the demand to hold less. There is no magic.

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May 01, 2015, 02:30:24 AM
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Per https://i.imgur.com/rhArHSS.jpg

I do not understand how China's currency can be almost twice the value of USD? USD GDP is almost double that of China, PLUS USD is the global reserve currency, so there's even more of it out there than there otherwise would be.

Please, someone explain this to me!?

They printed the hell out of it over the last 6 years to keep the global economy afloat and you know how everyone is saying the chinese currency is massively over-valued? Guess what, it is. China is gonna have a huge bust.

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May 01, 2015, 05:38:57 PM
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But still, USD is more common a reserve currency. So how can it only be half the value?

That I don't know, I had no idea Chinese economy was that big, apparently the biggest one.

Maybe there's something wrong with those numbers...

The Chinese economy is not that big compared to US though, barely over half the size.

Figures prepared by Peter R, bitcointalk.org.
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May 01, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
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This doesn't surprise me at all. The Chinese economy is dependent on the US economy and vice versa,  china made diplomatic deals with Russia and Britain in 2014 and 2013 to directly trade goods in Yuan instead of dollar.
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May 02, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
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Population of the U.S.: ~318.9 million

Population of China: ~1.357 billion

Many trades are denominated in U.S. dollars (oil, gold, ....), but that doesn't affect the M2 money supply.

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May 02, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
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the dollar is still more used even if it losing value against the chinese fiat, it's like the anectode of what is the most widely spoken language, while chinese is the language that is spoken the most, english is the language that is more widespread
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May 03, 2015, 01:32:57 AM
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the dollar is still more used even if it losing value against the chinese fiat...

The nominal exchange rate really doesn't matter when you look at volume of transactions. Look at Bitcoin in 2013. It appreciated hugely in value against the dollar, but that doesn't say anything about its usage compared to dollar usage.


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May 03, 2015, 01:39:23 AM
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m2 money supply is not equal to GDP.

Its not m2 related, but China is known t have vast foreign exchange reserves, and is consistently one of the biggest buyers of US government debt. China's got money. Is your question how did they get that much of it? Manufacturing. Nearly everything in the first world is manufactured there.
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May 03, 2015, 05:26:52 AM
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Per https://i.imgur.com/rhArHSS.jpg

I do not understand how China's currency can be almost twice the value of USD? USD GDP is almost double that of China, PLUS USD is the global reserve currency, so there's even more of it out there than there otherwise would be.

Please, someone explain this to me!?

Where you get the figure from and how is the value measure?
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May 03, 2015, 10:20:40 AM
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It is not possible in the near term! America is still the largest economy based on the GDP although Chinese growth rate is about 7% every year, faster than America, replaced  Japan as the second largest economy!
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May 03, 2015, 05:14:28 PM
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Chinese yuan has huge foreign reserves, the yuan is traded in various countries of Eu,USA and UK ,even used in their domestic ports and stores, thereby strengthening the yuan currency,the fact that you turn anything over around you and see the 'made in china' and bilateral diplomatic relations have made that possible
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May 03, 2015, 05:33:11 PM
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I do not understand how China's currency can be almost twice the value of USD


When china use funds of deposit, they "keep" 18% in real cash in vault.
In Europe, 0,5%.
In USA, ... they have QE.

that why they have value for Yuan ... this ... and a real knowned reserve of GOLD.
it's why USA don't communicate on the FED Gold reserve for example.
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May 07, 2015, 06:18:03 AM
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You have to consider the GDP China contributes. They have about have of that of the United States. If you're wondering why, just look just China ghost town on google.  Tongue

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June 27, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
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Don't really know how that's possible. Always knew China had a big economy, maybe population demand is higher. But isn't China Yuan already a reserve currency? Just think about the market use world wide, it's not surprising to me its double USD.

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