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Wow! i saw a similar Message today and was thinking that the guy must have typed it for some sarcastic reason . It is a good measure as it will stop Imposters from cheating people. Thank you Theymos.
Now I really want to bet , do you think that some newbie imposter will be able to scam another user? I think that there will be someone who will be scammed (and I am not kidding). I remember seeing many people mostly newbies saying that they sent money to Escrow and it turned out the Escrow was just a imposter and had a slight difference in the username . I also remember seeing someone sent BTC to wrong person(imposter) for the Advertising auction of forum by Theymos. So as i think , it'll avoid newbie members to be scammed by imposters and scammers .
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May 03, 2015, 09:35:12 AM |
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There is an issue with this warning as it gets quoted in the message text. Two newbies sent me PMs and by mistake I quoted the complete message and they also got to see the warning "!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!" I am now editing the quotes in the message text but it's quite time consuming to do it all the time.
Can't this be rectified?
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May 03, 2015, 01:17:49 PM |
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There is an issue with this warning as it gets quoted in the message text. Two newbies sent me PMs and by mistake I quoted the complete message and they also got to see the warning "!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!" I am now editing the quotes in the message text but it's quite time consuming to do it all the time.
Can't this be rectified?
Yes , am facing the same problem . I replied them without removing Quote and they were asking me , why is it for . Now i have to remove it before replying if i quote the message , it would be helpful to make it automatically cropped from the Reply.
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May 03, 2015, 04:03:19 PM |
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Great! This is a nice feature!
One suggestion, I think the text should be in the center, it would look better. Also, the text, if possible, should be removed when the member gets out of the newbie status.
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May 03, 2015, 04:31:03 PM |
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I love this new feature hopefully it'll help stop people being scammed and put off scammers from trying.
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May 03, 2015, 04:50:26 PM Last edit: May 03, 2015, 05:02:24 PM by Welsh |
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Although I understand why it was added, I never understood how some people could be so unaware of the username when talking to another user. At ths rate in few years time we'll have to spoon feed people.
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May 03, 2015, 09:50:23 PM |
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This is a really good security implementation. Reminded me of DannyHamilton's post: There are scammers that will create a userID that looks VERY similar to a trusted bitcointalk user (or that will purchase an old account that already has some trust feedback). They will then contact you pretending to be the trusted user. Make sure that you are talking to the person you think you are. Here are some examples of such scammers. If you click on the userID you can see that they are not me and that they have negative feedback: DanmyHamiltondannyham¡ltonDannyHarniltonDannyHamlitonDannyHamiltonnDannyHamilltonDannyHamltonDannyHamilttonDannyHamilitonDannyHamilitonDanny HamilltonMost of the best escrow providers in this forum have provided their public PGP key and will sign communications if you ask them to. It would be a good idea to have the public keys of all the escrow providers that you might consider using in the future and learn how to verify a PGP signature.
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May 03, 2015, 11:11:53 PM Last edit: May 04, 2015, 12:28:12 PM by hedgy73 |
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This is a really good security implementation. Reminded me of DannyHamilton's post: There are scammers that will create a userID that looks VERY similar to a trusted bitcointalk user (or that will purchase an old account that already has some trust feedback). They will then contact you pretending to be the trusted user. Make sure that you are talking to the person you think you are. Here are some examples of such scammers. If you click on the userID you can see that they are not me and that they have negative feedback: DanmyHamiltondannyham¡ltonDannyHarniltonDannyHamlitonDannyHamiltonnDannyHamilltonDannyHamltonDannyHamilttonDannyHamilitonDannyHamilitonDanny HamilltonMost of the best escrow providers in this forum have provided their public PGP key and will sign communications if you ask them to. It would be a good idea to have the public keys of all the escrow providers that you might consider using in the future and learn how to verify a PGP signature. Yes that's a prime example, fucking scamming shitbags creating new usernames like trusted originals.
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May 04, 2015, 12:20:24 AM |
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Thank you for this ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 04, 2015, 10:52:44 AM |
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I think this is an excellent improvement. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I got a PM from a newbie the other day (without knowing about this improvement) I noticed the warning right away. For the record the PM from the newbie was legit, it is a user with a 1 year old account which is just not very active, I have done a number of trades with this person. Nevertheless the warning made me check an extra time that in fact it was the right person I communicated with.
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This seems to be a good feature, just now i saw a PM i received and i was utterly Confused about why has that guy wrote those words to me and i PM'e him back , asking about it , on which he said he didn't do anything. Now i see it has been added as a new feature to the Forum. That is good but when i reply im back , it get's added to my message and i had to manually remove it ! Can something be done about that?
I just got here from seeing this message, It somewhat startled me, But I nearly responded with it, It could put new users in turmoil seeing this from a hero+ member.
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Here is very good example on how effective the new Newbee PM warning is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813238.msg11376693#msg11376693Before, potentially buyers would get the exact same type of message by PM. But that do not work now, instead they have to launch their phishing attempts in the thread, where many users monitor the activity and can react fast to prevent the scam.
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May 15, 2015, 02:50:22 PM |
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Fair play to theymos for taking steps to stop people getting scammed by newbie accounts. People shouldn't really shouldn't be getting scammed in that way though. No offence intended to anybody but it's a bit dumb to get caught out that way. Take care people but use your brains.
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July 23, 2015, 12:32:34 AM |
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cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" i feel my name is unique. (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...) thanks
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July 23, 2015, 12:44:20 AM |
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cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" i feel my name is unique. (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...) thanks that will require Theymos and/or Badbear or whoever to manually keep track of EVERY new users that have a similar name with some other user. that's too much trouble for nothing little benefits.
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July 23, 2015, 08:19:27 PM |
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This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
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July 23, 2015, 08:23:26 PM |
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This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?
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July 23, 2015, 08:26:10 PM |
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This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong? You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 23, 2015, 08:42:48 PM |
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This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong? You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question?
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July 23, 2015, 08:45:31 PM |
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This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong? You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question? OMG You are more annoying than the message, please read my post again. I double check every account, address and signed message I get, so I can't be scammed when doing a trade!
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